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<3 Jon Hopkins is seriously a next level genius in regards to music <3 So much depth, emotion, melancholy and cosmic transendence in many of his tracks. <3 Another great is Four Tet. You don't have to do anything in the grand scheme of things. That's perhaps the horrifying part of this deep God-realization. I see clearly how I actually don't have to do anything, litteraly. I can decide freely what to do, and in the "Absolute End" it doesn't matter what I do. Yet I also saw that God's plan was/is to make me a spiritual vessel that can help people in various ways -- mental issues, waking up. And I thus naturally -- I am God, I know that -- want to help people through psychedelic therapy/psychedelic enlightenment-work. Psychedelics have destroyed me - my stage Orange belief-systems that is. And then I have been reborn through them. Deep healing. First LSD trip 5 years ago initiated stage Green. I integrated all of green. DMT/Ayahuasca/2CB the last year helped me go to stage yellow, which I'd say fully integrated around 1-2 months ago. This 2CB-trip has initiated stage Turquoise for me. In some ways the real fun for me in my life starts now. I see that. My point of all my rambling is that I have extreme respect for the violent and powerful nature of psychedelics. They are dangerous in the wrong hands. On the other hand they have the potential to heal and evolve human consciousness. That's my life purpose; to help make that come true. Psychedelic experiences have shaped me, healed me, and now made me very, very conscious of the fact that I'm God, and that everything is me/God (Oneness). I have woken up. Anyway, you can help people in infinite indirect ways. Art is one way. Even something as "low-conscious" as sports can help people. Everything serves a purpose. Follow your intutition. There are many people with high levels of consciousness who don't go around saying "Hey, I'm God, you're God, everything is God" and yet they are still very enlightened beings in some ways. Just take this muscian, Jon Hopkins. I'm just fucking amazed by his music. We don't call Jon Hopkins a guru. Yet I'd say in one way he is one of my biggest gurus :-) Fuck, even somewhat mediocre-conscious people like my parents - they are also my gurus. Everything is put into your life for a reason. You did it. You created it all. You did it all. Everything that happens in your life is YOUR/GOD's intelligent design. It's so fucking beautiful when you realize that. ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ Yes I do. To summarize how I feel this morning: Grounded as fuck. Light in mind and body as fuck. Very, very sensitive to everything around me - in a beautiful, grounded way. Just listening to a few minutes of this talk - that Leo put up on his blog - - made me cry a bit. Obviously, I'm not in the same "God-consciousness-state" as I was on the peak of my 2CB-trip yesterday night. However, I deeply know that I'm still God. I just know. In that sense enlightenment is not a state. Peter Ralston is right in a sense: it's not a state, enligthenment. It's just a flipping 360 degrees of everything in the way you look at things. In your awareness. The mirror has been turned 180 degrees during the peak experience (yesterday) and now it has turned 180 degrees more and we're back at WaveInTheOcean-consciousness. Full circle. Yet, now I'm complete. I know I'm God and that all is God. It's so beautiful. Fuck, enligthenment/awakening is SO FUCKING OBVIOUS. How could it be ANY other way? How could it? Of course there is only one Self - YOU! Me! God! How could it be any other way? Hahahhahahhaha fuck man. It's so, so , so , so , so obvious that we all miss it. haha >.< Of course I still felt tired when I woke up. I still have "negative" feelings such as being tired and so on. Enlightenment doesn't change the content of your perception. It just changes the way you look at it. At everything. So to look at enlightenment as some sort of a "state" where you don't need to sleep, don't need to eat, don't "need" anything, where you can't feel pain: That's a naive and immature way of looking at it and reflects lack of actual insight. "since you are fully awakened I suppose you would be able to sit down and be alone with “yourself “ / meditate for 10 hours straight? Or at least 3-5 hours ? Am I mistaken to believe that is something an enlightened person could easily do?" Look, I can do anything. Litterally. I can fly. I'm all the birds. I'm already flying. I'm already you. To be a bit more serious -- relatively speaking - the maxmium amount of time I have consciously forced myself to sit down and meditate is 1 hour. I have no doubt that I could pretty easily meditate for "infinite" amount of hours in a row (still getting some sleep, food and so on), but what is the point of that? Meditation as a practice is a technology. An art-form. A way to ground yourself and widen your conscious (both things). However, in another way, you could say meditation is what I'm now doing 24/7. I'm meditating as I write these words. It comes so naturally. That's another thing I have realized this morning. As I said I just feel so light. Everything I do , I just do. No resistance. It's almost like I'm not doing any of it. An enlightened human being can do anything. That's the short answer. And it's scary to be so free. But also beautiful. My call in this life of WaveInTheOcean is to help other people. Do I help other people -- /reach that goal -- by meditating in a cave 365 days a year? Hell fucking no. Will some light daily meditation of 10-30 minutes a day help me in my goal? Hell yes. It will help ground me. After I was finished writing yesterday night here I walked outside in the beautiful early morning night and sat at a bench by a lake, smoked a cigarette and meditated for 20 minutes. These 20 minutes really felt short. Then I walked inside and slept. When you have an ego that's not really spiritually developed/mature, I think ego-death really feels profound/scary/intense. When your ego is very developed spiritually, ego-death is just so natural. I meditated for 20 minutes, and for most of these 20 minutes there were no thoughts. Yet it wasn't very intense. It was just bliss and calm. Grounded me. And I feel it's VERY important for me to stay grounded. Cos I'm naturally a person that gets really excited about the stuff I do. Now I have just become enlightened and there are impulses in me that just want to follow fucking through and go crazy/leave this planet/plane of existence. But I won't do that, no worries, I will remain grounded. <3 Yes, you are very right. I can do that, no problem. That's how it is now. No resistance. No suffering. Sure I could still feel pain if a girl rejected me -- cos that's how my body-mind is wired -- but I wouldn't resist it and naturally, easily get over it. Why would I? I'm fucking God. The girl rejecting me is me rejecting myself! It's all my doing. One of the most profound talks ever: My parents aren't that bad. So that would be super easy:) Even if my parents were bad, it wouldn't be a problem. Sure that would be negative feelings arising in me, but I wouldn't resist them. Why would I ? ;-) Haha. Love your ego. Yes, it is your ego. But that's natural. The ego wants to survive. Everyone on this forum are ego's searching for enligthenment/awakening. And naturally when someone makes a bold post "I'm enligthened - AMA" other egoes easily gets hurt and rejects/resist what the dude writes. I've been there myself. I've been on this forum for a few years now, and I remember all the "i'm God - AMA" posts and I remeber how I felt annoyed and pissed off by them :-) All the people who writes nice things to me/asks geniune questions - to my ego - in this topic, it's easily to see that they are the most conscious. The ones who fool around are just egoes with a narrow consciousness, lack of Self-love, lack of insight, lack of understanding, lack of direct experience :-) I feel sorry for them, but I hope they'll get there. I've been there myself. <3 Don't say sorry for your ego. Let my post piss you off. Let you experience how you also find it funny. To conclude, yes, it feels Good. Amazing. Hehe How can I, as God, fool myself? <3 It's pretty easy actually. We all do it. Now I remember I'm God, so no more fooling around <3 Hey. I am an ordinary human being. I just know I'm God. That's all. I don't want to be a non-ordinary human being. I like being human, for now. But to take the bait, my friend, have you ever wondered about all the chemicals right now flooding around in your so-called sober brain, like right now as you're reading these words? The most prominent/dominating one is called 'serotonin'. It's a natural chemical. A neuro-transmitter. It hits all the receptors in your brain that 2C-B, DMT, 5-MeO, LSD, psilocin also hits. They are all serotonin-agonists. You probably don't know what that means, since your post obviously reflects a deep lack of knowledge about the topic. But anyway, I'll continue, cos this is fun! So you can easily call serotonin a pscyhedelic. Easily. Hell, look at the structure of serotonin. It's nearly identical to psilocin and DMT. The difference between the psychedelics -- serotonin included -- is how they differ in their binding affinity to specific serotonin-receptors in the brain (cos there are many different ones). My question to you, dear observer, is: When will you come down from your serotonion-trip ??? Other questions I want you to ponder: - What is the difference between consciousness and outside physical reality/stuff? - What is the difference between a dream and what we call ordinary, waking reality? - What were you before you were born? - What will happen to you when you die? - What happens to you when you go to deep sleep? Look. You're already hallucinating. You're hallucinating/tripping on serotonin. So am I, right now. We are fucking God tripping, hallucinating herself to believe she is a human being! How fucking hillarious is that, mate? Only difference between you and me is that I know I'm God tripping, while you still pretend to be "poor little me, poor little "the observer". Get out of it, God! Come on! For God's sake! <3 Outside pyschedelics just helps to tweak the serotonin-system a bit, strips you off your ego (it kills the default-mode-network), widens your consciousness and gets you access to your True Self. I have also thought a lot about how I now have zero desire to ever get drunk on alcohol again. Alcohol really lowers your consciousness. And I don't want that. I want to remain in a high state of consciousness as much as possible. In one specific way, however, alcohol may actually widen your consciousness. Namely in the way it sort of makes you less inhibited/less worried about your self-image. This action alone is the sole reason why people drink. ----- Much love to everyone here. That is, to myself <3

Do you still feel done /fully awakened now the next day? since you are fully awakened I suppose you would be able to sit down and be alone with “yourself “ / meditate for 10 hours straight? Or at least 3-5 hours ? Am I mistaken to believe that is something an enlightened person could easily do? i also suppose you would be able to maintain a healthy relationship to a romantic partner if that it is what you wanted to - completely free of suffering because you wouldn’t have to deal with the ego stuff and also be able to take the other person in completely as yourself.. would you be able to do that now or am I mistaken for taking that as enlightenment? also.. would you be able to stay at your parents house for a weekend or maybe a week - and stay in this mindset or would you be tricked back into old patterns? And if you would, could you still “claim that you are done “ is the “done-enlightened-state” final/enduring/stable? your post pisses be off incredibly much. It is very fun to experience. I don’t know why, guess it’s just my ego.. look forward to the experience of done-ness if I ever will be as hard working in my enlightenment work as you must have been and ever reach it. Can imagine it feels really good.. but well.. shouldn’t care about too feel good or not.. sorry ego again..

Yes you did it! Welcome home to the world of the Self. That feeling of "everything is the self" shows you have awakened for real. Update tomorrow or in a few days how it feels.

Hey interesting. My old teacher, he first started doing high dose LSD trips in the 70s. He would do every Friday, for about a year. Then on one experience he had an awakened or non-dual experience. It was an experience of enlightenment. Once he experienced that, it changed him. He knew it was the real thing, and he dedicated his life to achieving it. The next day, after that experience, he came back to reality, he was no longer enlightened. He knew LSD wasn't going to bring him there in a permanent way. He started practicing Zazen under Philip Kapleau, and didn't touch LSD again. He spent 10 years living alone, in rural isolation, just meditating. He eventually got it. I asked if it was like the LSD experience, and he said yes, but in some ways it's even better, as it's unshakable now, it's real and doesn't go away. Now I think 5-meo is actually unique, it's quite different in how profound it is. I think it's incredibly valuable to give one experiences that transcend duality, and can supercharge one's meditation practice. One of the risks is that it's so profound that it can be another form of attachment. This idea that one must get there, or live from that place, that's another form of attachment. It lacks a certain maturity, it lacks equanimity. When you meet a true elder, someone who has really walked their path and garnered wisdom, you can feel a quality of presence and being that is very embodied and mature. I don't think one can shortcut that, and I think one needs that to be balanced. There is a deep humility, there is a knowing of responsibility, there is a careful sense of speech and action. I think undoubtedly that psychedelics and even deep states of meditation can be used as another form of spiritual materialism, another distraction from Dukkha (suffering/unsatisfactoriness). I can personally say that I was deeply unsatisfied, I felt a deep sense of restlessness at all times, a lack of connection, a lack of joy, a feeling of melancholy... I was attempting to escape this state, to go beyond it with psychedelics and meditation. They worked for a time, but the feeling would always return, and ultimately I just had to accept it and see if I could still live a meaningful life in spite of it. I am now understanding the value of going through such hardships, a real sense of wisdom and maturity is garnered over time. It's very difficult, and I would have taken any way out, but luckily nothing worked and I was forced to accept it and live through it. I've been taught patience, and it's been a hard lesson.

Could be that he is not awakened, some people like to do some exercises and just keep it at that, reap some benefits and stay rather ordinary. Spiritual masters are not normal and don't seek to be liked, so most people like to avoid them as the plague.

I am confused about the point of enlightenment work, especially at the ultra-high levels. How do we reconcile the following (this is my terrified interpretation): On the one hand, no possible life can have true happiness, fulfillment and peace of mind, even if all your wishes were met and you dominated the world, without becoming spiritually enlightened. The most fantastic life we can conceive of would be nothing compared to being enlightened. On the other hand, to enlighten oneself is to annihilate oneself. And further, to realize one is God, Love, Infinity, and all the rest, is just too much to take. To go into that territory I must kick and scream and burn in purgatory. If I knew what I really asked for, I would not want it. @Leo Gura says "YOU DON’T WANT IT." Jed McKenna says "Waking up is kinda dumb." When we say "You don’t want it", we mean "I, me, the ego, this person right here talking, yes me!" don’t want it, but do we also somehow point to something beyond "me/I" that don’t want it, whatever that even means? I mean can there be resistance to deeper awakenings even long after one sees through or "destroys" the ego? How is it possible to not be able to stomach deeper awakenings if there is no ego at all to have preferences and have to "stomach" things? See I can’t help but think somehow one could regret having awakened, or at least becoming conscious of specific things (God, Love, etc.). I’ve got the impression that some awakenings can be so deep and radical that they’re just too much to handle EVEN for someone who has lost their ego long ago and have no stakes in life or preferences, that beyond a certain point awakenings will only be more hellish. Behind reality’s final curtain there is eternal hellfire. In short, it is simply not possible to completely surrender and not suffer at the deepest of the deepest insights of reality. It seems twisted that pursuing deeper and deeper awakenings can lead to greater and greater hell, but I know that to have a nihilistic view of spiritual enlightenment is to misunderstand it. Yet this is my impression that I’m trying to sort out. I don’t know what do make of it and what to do with myself. I hope what I’m asking makes sense, but in short it boils down to the question: How is it possible to not be able to stomach deeper awakenings if there is no ego at all to have preferences and have to "stomach" things? Or simplified: How and why are deeper awakenings beyond ego-death challenging and difficult? Thanks! Gustav

Im just curious, if one can reach full permanent awakening with the the motivation to escape suffering?

Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. I'm aware of most of the things you're talking about. It's not news to me. Regarding Shinzen Young, I have had extensive hour-long private questioning sessions with him about the nature of reality. His answers to my questions left me unsatisfied and given my deepest awakenings I can tell that he is not fully Awake. I don't see that he has an understanding of what Infinity is and what God is. And his students are certainly not deeply awakened. You could follow him for decades and never realize the things I have realized. Shinzen Young does not understand Mahasamadhi. He thinks it's a fake out done by holding your breath and killing yourself. Lol Be careful who you follow and take as Awake. Yes, of course states are not stages. I have never claimed they were. I don't claim to have reached the highest stages, but only the highest states. But also, this difference is completely irrelevant from the point of you of Truth/Understanding. It doesn't matter what stage you're at when you are in an Infinite state. If fact, there is no such thing as stages. All stages are simply states. It's just a question of how long your state lasts. It could last 1 second or 100 years. The privileging of one over the other is itself a bias of the mind. You may think my path is dangerous, but also don't forget how dangerous your path is. The danger of never fully awaking up. This proves my point. If these people failed by using traditional methods, then what hope do you have of success using those methods? There is no collective to awaken. There is only your awakening. The collective is that part of your dream which you invented to keep yourself asleep. Full awakening is a very radical thing. You don't want it.

@traveler In my experience; enlightenment has no past to awaken from and no future to be awakened to. Light is all there is. *big conscious breath*

So I've been into self improovement for a year now, and meditating daily for ~7 months For the last month I've been doing enlightenment work daily for about ~30 minutes (without psychedelics) I've been trough some really bad times during my story (You can read about it Here If you're interested) To be honest - while meditating approx ~5 months into it, I started asking myself questions 'What is this voice in my head? is it a thought? where did it come from? how was it constructed? why is it talking in my native language only? etc' - basically I got into enlightenment more or less naturally. At this point I choose to believe that I'm not awakened nor am I enlightened. In fact - I've come to a realization that there's no one to become enlightened. There is no me as I use to believe (or simply assume), and on top of that 'I' or 'me' can't get enlightened - if I choose to indentify with this body and the fucking story that was attached to it this whole damn time then only thing that has happened to me is a shitton of shifts in thinking, views and awareness. At this point I've realized that I've always been here, everything I assumed was the outter world and inner world is just one. Since time is relative I've realized that I was actually never born. (this body was physically born of course) Everything is a story, even Leo's theory of enlightenment is a story, god is a story. Every damn-thing I believed and assumed to be true has collapsed, my previous thinking and ways of percieving reality is simply smashed into pieces. I've thought about death in details, a lot, even contemplated and visualized my death. - Not because of these negative emotions, since I'm not depressed - actually I'm quite happy, and aware of being happy makes me kinda less happy, but still happy. lol I feel sick, I'm watching negative emotions flow trough me , and as I'm getting deeper into enlightent it just gets sorta worse. And the worst part of this - there is no turning back, I've stopped doing any work besides meditation for a week now, but I guess this is here to stay. Thoughts?

@Nahm thank you so much for a very detailed answer. However, I don't think that you can deny the existence of separation and ignorance (even if it's illusory) within the finite forms of the Self, even if you are talking from an awakened POV - imagine being born to slavery and indoctrination having no clue of the absolute truth whatsoever - it's simply being dismissive

@dimitri Just because there are awakened people in the ether web (or whatever) doesn't mean that every mind is free of delusion.

@SamueLSD My spidey sense tells me so, yes. @DrewNows Awesome! Thanks! I too have been feeling an attraction towards the world of occult lately. Exciting stuff! There's ALOT tho. Only flirting with it for now. I was also recently reminded of the predominant element in my current experience; Fire. I wish to transcend the cycle of burning out and reigniting. So all there is is The Eternal Flame. Fire is the truth of my personal self, that I know for sure. I am dedicated to mastering it, sooner or later. Anyhow... About to hit the sheets now, will check the vid when awakened. Much luv.

There’s no cause to anything, it just does Leo It’s inevitable, eventually shit hits the ceiling and there’s nothing to blame but the system (ourselves as the government) for the ineffective means at which It destroys itself (or ripples). I’d rather look at it as individuation rather than devolution I do try to avoid the drama, moved on. But it’s a must sadly, for those who feel they have something to offer, I see it to be just another mask like the status quo and political pushes (powers that be) Your influence is great here in guiding the awakened, painting a picture to bring us through fear and into unity beyond difference, back to balance. Appreciate your view

In regards to the addiction, yes just whitewashing it with a veneer of Advaita isn’t going to do the trick. It’s very easy to say “oh well yeah I’m addicted to porn and watch it 5 times a day but it’s all appearing in awareness so it’s cool” Its hard to actually have the self-love to know you deserve and can express your sexuality in a much healthier and loving way and take the steps to overcome this addiction. as you say, addiction is coming from a sense of lack, especially extreme addiction. But, it is also habit forming, so may take time to reverse these old habits. For example, let’s say you have an argument with someone, usually you’d have your favourite ice cream now, you would have to change that behaviour pattern, which may take some work. So, it would also be an idea to investigate why you are involving yourself with this addiction, a lot of these issues will likely be resolved before you even get to awakening work, but some subtle ones may remain and will again involve investigation and the necessary relative steps to overcome. just to be clear whether you are a successful billionaire with a jacked body & the dream life or a bum on the street injecting heroin makes 0 difference absolutely speaking, but relatively it will have a huge impact on your existence, the absolute is always at peace and happy no matter what, it’s quite the paradox. However, addictions overall come from a place of lack, hence need to be investigated. This doesn’t mean you cant do things like drink alcohol or smoke weed or eat unhealthy food after awakening as a celebration, the difference is you aren’t doing it from a sense of lack to fill a void! When I say you are “okay” with whatever happens, I simply mean your inherent peace and happiness are not threatened by it, it doesn’t mean you won’t be sad or angry when things happen, it just means your true nature and absolute happiness is always unaffected. For example, let’s say you start a business and it does bust and you lose the business, you will of course be upset and potentially angry etc, BUT you, absolutely speaking, will still be happy and at peace, if you have awakened. It’s quite the paradox and can be hard to understand, especially for the mind, my advice would be dive deep enough into awakening, and find out these truths for yourself! here’s some videos & articles that explain it better than I can https://non-duality.rupertspira.com/read/addiction_porn_and_pseudo_advaita

@LfcCharlie4 thanks for the explanation. I’m familiar with stoic philosophy and I know what you are taking about but it is hard to implement. I’m just curious about how an awakened person perceives an addiction. An addiction is resistance or escapism. Your body and mind runs away from a thing. So as an awakened person you can perform an addiction or not perform your addiction, and you are ok with both? It is kind of confusing for me if you are also doing self help. I guess one also has to be stoic when going against your own addiction, if you chose to do so. Quote: “Life simply becomes a celebration and you can do whatever the fuck it is that you want, that's Absolute Freedom, there is NO rules. This is why it's important you sit down and decide what you actually want for your life, and then you go out there and do it, Leo's video on life advice for young people is great.“ End quote. If you chose something for your life for example success, doesn’t it mean you don’t chose the other thing such as failure? How can you be ok with both succes and failure at the same time if you chose?

Awesome blog! Just wanted to add, in my experience at least Non-Duality has made sex EVEN better in terms of deepening the experience of Sex, and I do feel it is more than possible to have a relationship post awakening that is an expression of ever deepening love, and can certainly include a happy sex life. I would say when integrated it leads to a much healthier, more loving and more fulfilling sex life. The distinction I would make is in the awakening process it would be tough, as you would be so focused on your Awakening, it would become difficult I feel to maintain a relationship, I found it most difficult when seeking, and much easier post awakening. I also don't think it's as simple as 'More awakened; less sex drive.' I actually think it varies in case to case, and your natural sexuality will express itself more and more, without the need to escape through sex & porn, sure it could be lower, or Celibacy, but it could also mean a more expressive sex life too. One last point, a lot of people who have these deep awakenings tend to be older, maybe that could play a role in the sex drive too. However, it must be said, nothing beats the absolute peace and happiness that awakening brings. It's easy to take it for granted at times. Then sex simply becomes a way to celebrate life and express this understanding, instead of a way to escape life. Rupert has the only decent video I've ever found on it.

First of all if all you want is to lead a so called "good and happy life" you don't need to be awakened ..... because frankly you are not ready for it yet .Even deep meditation and samadhi experiences can put you in a tranquil state and joyful state. However , if someone is in samadhi , he may not be awakened or enlightened . To be awakened or enlightened does not mean that you will always be in peace ... it means to know the full nature of world and reality . it means to realize (experientially) that you are the Brahman yourself .....that you are god yourself (according to vedanta ( non duality)) , and let me tell you that if you are enlightened ... you dont need to be in heaven 24/7 , because for the one who knows the true nature of reality ....joy and bliss are just "emotions". But if you want joy and bliss , you can pursue the path of sehaj samadhi or yoga.. if you achieve sehaj samadhi , you will not need material things to make you happy , you can be happy under a tree but being enlightened is the best thing one can do in this life because he just realized what is reality.

Awakening can help you a bit with improving the quality of your consciousness, helping you understand deeper truths, give you important breakthroughs to solve your issues but it cannot guarantee a perfect life. You can still have the same problems as you had before. The reason why you want to be awakened is not because you want to find solutions to all of your problems and needs but to seek the higher truth. It's a process of seeking, like an explorer seeks new lands and experiences. It's also an experience and an opportunity to grow inwardly. In fact if you are looking for a more perfect life where all your needs are accommodated and problems resolved, you should probably be more interested in pd and self actualization.

Or perhaps awakened gurus appear very beautiful to those who can appreciate them?

Normies love to mythologize and idealize awakened gurus, treating them as saints. It's actually a clever defense mechanism of the ego-mind. The ego-mind reasons like this: "If awakening doesn't make a person perfect and good, then it's not real and not worth working towards." By putting the guru on a pedestal the normie/student doesn't have to take responsibility for the hard work that must go into perfecting one's life. The normie/student wants awakening to be an instant cure-all to all of life's problems. This is of course a fantasy.

where does the misnomer that awakening/enlightenment means automatically becoming an emotionally mastered terminator that experiences no uncomfortable experiences and is in pure heaven 24/7 with no chance of ever wavering from this state? I've awakened but still feel I have much to do when it comes to managing and integration my emotions and beliefs.

Your mistake is conflating truth realization with changes or improvements in one's behavior. These are independent things. Even awakened people can have addictions, "bad" behavior, and other stuff. That's called being human. Realizing what is true will not automatically make you a saint. Survival is still a powerful force that remains post-awakening.

Yes, some people in the non-duality communities have this neo-advaita-rhetoric that makes no sense, they are basically just nihilists or mind-dwellers. They think denying that they are the body makes them free but it's just a belief-system, not an actual transformation. I'm not bothered by them though, and I'm glad there are some people on this forum who have genuinely awakened.

@Meta-Man Lol good luck bro. Someone always makes clear whether they simply have an intellectual understanding of these teachings, or have actually awakened themselves by how they act, and not what they say. Similar to that guy who kept exploding at people the other day. All people really need, is a good old fashioned awakening(s) and a few years of Integration, then all will be well