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Well, you need to open your mind to the possibility of accessing raw, absolute truth unmediated by any interprations or perceptions or science or anything. Pure TRUTH exists. You can access it. But you cannot access it while believing in science, brains, perception, and other such nonsense. Love and Truth is everything that every could be experienced. But bliss is like a feeling. It comes and goes. Most of your life will not be spent in feelings of bliss. Even if you are being tortured it is Truth/Love, but not bliss. Yes, your true nature is peace because it is Nothing. Happiness is more of an emotion that comes and goes.

That pain is itself Love, because Love does not exclude any feeling. But it’s hard to call that pain bliss, wouldn’t you agree?

@How to be wise When you imagine yourself to be a body and a character you're also free to imagine all kinds of horrible things happening to them, or to imagine them doing horrible things. Realizing the very Source of this freedom is bliss. This freedom never forces itself on you though, you have to go to it willingly. And being away from it, imagining yourself as nothing but a vulnerable or bad or in whatever way lacking character, that hurts like hell. Cause that's not what you really are.

After a time of my new girlfriend losing interest and flaking, I spent 6 months obsessed with relationship / attraction theory trying to solve this. I was completely desperate to fix my problems (I was aware that it was me) and win her heart and sexual interest back. I was always analyzing every situation with her, making sure I was being alpha, saying the right things, she was showing interest, etc. My mind thought this was the best approach, but it was mentally draining. I intuitively knew there had to be a better way. And while it may have helped superficially, the problem wasn't actually solved. The insecurity was still there, the neediness was still there, the weakness was still there. All still underneath the mask of acting and playing the part of the alpha. It didn't really work. Intuition is real, and most women can smell a mask from authenticity any day, whether they realize it or not. Last month I had an awakening. Pure bliss, love, and peace filled my being. Seeing my true nature, Insecurity of the relationship vanished. Neediness vanished. I stopped caring about if my girlfriend was attracted to me or not. I stopped analyzing situations and if I was saying the right things. I stopped caring if I was alpha or beta. I completely let go of my obsession with being how all the attraction theory was telling me to be. I am completely fulfilled sitting alone in my room. Then, to my amazement: Girlfriends attraction and interest level goes up. No more games. No more flaking. Starts asking me if I want to spend the rest of my life with her like she does with me, etc. Always wants to talk about our relationship. Before, I always wanted to talk about the relationship and if she saw a future with me. What I learned is that no amount of theory, practicing theory, and demonstrating theory, can save you, if your fundamental problem of identifying yourself as a separate individual ego isn't discovered. All insecurity and fear rises from this. Of course other highly attractive males who are successful with women naturally don't need to discover this and could care less about spirituality. But they aren't necessarily researching relationship theory and "trying" to become attractive like I was and you may be. The moment I stopped stressing, worrying, and trying to be alpha, I became alpha. The love that fills my being can not be taken away by anyone, so I don't need anything from anyone. Detachment = highly attractive. Yes, old patterns and mechanisms still run from living from that place for so long, but they are seen and there is an ability to see these needy behaviors as something separate from me. A relic of my small self. Results don't matter to me anymore and my identity isn't involved, so they don't mean much and this makes them lighter in essence and easier to change or discard. The theme of things going full circle: Start of circle = I didn't care if I was alpha or beta, but I was operating from a place of neediness, weakness, and insecurity. Middle of circle = the realization of this weakness led me to overanalyze and overthink everything, making the problem and my spiritual health worse. Full Circle = I don't care if I'm acting alpha or beta, but I'm operating from a place of fullness, self-love, and self respect. My biggest realization - The more you are fulfilled in and of yourself, the more you deepen in the spiritual truth of non-duality (no others, just consciousness as your True Self) the more attractive you are. Neediness is eliminated. Weakness is eliminated (neediness & weakness stems from insecurity / fear of being a separate self). You are more expressive with your emotions (being happier and more joyful you naturally express yourself more). You are less likely to be manipulated and respect your Self more (the more conscious you are the clearer your boundaries and ability to see falsehood and deception) Yes strong dominant males exist without being spiritually inclined at all. But I doubt that these strong dominant males are joyful and completely fulfilled without spirituality as the core of their lives. If you are man, and all illusions are wiped away, you find that YOU ARE ALREADY naturally masculine. It's in our DNA. The lack of masculine wasn't something that needed to be cultivated or developed, it was a removal of all the insecurities and fears of being a separate self, and a removal of the shit our society, ourselves, and others put on us to keep us in a box. When that's gone, your true source shines through with no blocks. If you're a man, this will shine through purely masculine. Woman - purely feminine. To anyone in a similar situation - solve the root of this problem. You won't regret it. Stop caring if you are attractive or not, and you will get everything you wanted in the first place. Then you can work on all the other stuff from a place of fulfillment and detachment - fitness, looks, provisioning power, social status, social skills, etc. Note: I'm sure there are exceptions to this - people with mental disorders, autism, extremely poor, extremely overweight etc.

Getting raped is Love. But is it bliss?

What??!! This made me confused. I have always sought the Truth because it feels good, If God doesn't equal Bliss then How does it even be? If the Truth doesn't feel good, who will seek it?

Hello! I am new here and am grateful to be a part of this community. I started meditating couple of years ago to ease my rumination. In the beginning I used to forcibly push away my thoughts because my view on meditation was that of being in a state of bliss. As time went on I came to the realization that by not accepting my thoughts I only make it worse. My mind is in a better place now. In a way I am new to thoughts and would like to learn more about it. My question is: How do you use meditation for constructive and analytical thinking and how do you apply it in your relationships, work and life overall? Thank you!

I realized God.It happened 3 weeks ago. It’s the best thing that ever happened to me. I feel God’s Love almost every moment of the day. Bliss and happiness arise often. But lately, my mind is going crazy(monkey mind with many thoughts regarding to my survival..and the worst thing that it found some validations to itself.. 1. I got really quiet and my top priority is to focus on This. 2. Girls are not attracted to nice guys and I can’t help myself but Love everyone. 3. It became clear to me how everyone around me is possessed by their mind. And I feel alone. 4. It got harder to do business. I feel like even my investments needs to purify themselves? Don’t get me wrong I’m willing to give up everything for It. But life got different..Maybe it’s just a phase and it will pass. Not sure what I’m even asking..Just need to know that I’m not going crazy.

@Leo Gura What's the difference between Love and Bliss? Not the thought of it, but the experience? Is Love not Consciousness Itself? Is Truth a thought?

Never What kind of fool do you take me for? The truth is rarely bliss. Like I said, that is merely a side-effect. Like smoke from a fire.

Don't you chase the truth because it feels Good? Isn't the Truth = Bliss? So you are actually chasing bliss?

False? Lol. That's nonsense. It's Absolute Truth. But you miss the point. It's not about the bliss. You're not chasing that bliss, you're simply becoming conscious of Absolute Truth and the bliss is just a side-effect of that. When you are infinitely conscious it's just natural that bliss occurs. I never do psychedelics for the purpose of pleasure. But if pleasure comes, I won't say no. Him is the construct. Infinite Consciousness/Love is the true "him". It's just that he needs to peddle human bullshit to his followers. Bentinho can't tell his followers that they will never reach Infinite Consciousness without DMT or they would leave him. You will NEVER reach DMT levels of consciousnesses through self-inquiry or meditation. That is the truth. What these self-inquiry people are teaching you is something far less than that because they don't know how to get you access to DMT levels of consciousness. Psychedelics are not about bliss, they are about increasing one's consciousness. That he doesn't get this is sad.

@AuthenticSelf Yes, not saying you don't, just the real You is not attached to it. Nothing is always here and now, infinite bliss is here and now, there is nothing to end. There is no where to go, there is not a difference between life & death. There isn't an after there is only Now. There is nothing outside Now.

I absolutely agree. I'm enlightened but I'm still working the same job as I was before - for now. No magic superpowers either . Hence why I created this thread to see how I can apply it to improve my egoic life. I can see how I kind of derailed my own thread by not making that more clear. It's simply like acquiring a new lens for your life. I was asking other users of said lens on how to tune it best to enjoy the view. Is it a better lens than the default that my life came with? No question. I didn't know it was possible to feel bliss all the time, or on queue when you want it. I wasn't even looking for enlightenment. I don't mean to sound like I'm unappreciative of it, while others are still trying to achieve it. It's definitely possible for everyone seeking, and not even that hard in retrospect. It's one of those simple but not easy things.

No thought or idea is ultimate. What is ultimate/absolute must by definition be what is already, unknowable because it is every object in appearance. There can be no real seperation from all there is. All realizations are what is, but revealed in them is not more what is than what is. The belief that an ultimate truth will ever be realized or achieved is a sign of the dream, it is a belief that you are seperate and that you need answers to become whole or to find home. All there is already is home, and it is appearing as this. It never moves and is simultaneously ever changing. It is not bliss, it is this. Reaaaally disappointing for the seeker, haha. People really can't hear that enlightenment isn't about them, somewhere there is an expectation in every seeker that some end or final state of endless happiness will come and fireworks will go off and they'll know for sure that they've made it. See how obvious it is that even you don't know what you are seeking, nothing you can come up with is satisfying forever, it is a dream based on false hope.

Law of Attraction points to the experience of your "reality" being far stranger than you think. It goes beyond ideas of legit or not. It's more "true" than most things we consider true though. It deals with the truth we create for ourselves and shows us how to create it consciously. The law of attraction is about having greater awareness and focus, and recognizing that the core of every desire is the desire to feel better. This becomes your focus, over believing your thoughts blindly and continually noticing that you are now where you want to be. It is the basis for change. It is the realization that when we feel amazing, we notice amazing things, and good things and thoughts come to us. When we drop resistance and stop noticing what is thoughts we've never had can come in. An insight is a just a thought you've never had before. Law of attraction would teach you that this approach might be off, if you focus on your blockages and limiting beliefs thinking you need to get rid of them before you are free to create your life, your focus on your limitations is actually holding them in place. Making intentions or rather, allowing your desires, is what bring the blocks into light and is the power and momentum you need to blow through them. Awareness over your thoughts of control reveals your true power. "Purer" is a thought that limits and gets into judgement and good and bad and what other people thing territory. The better feeling your ideas the faster you will attract them into your experience. This is how you and only you measure the purity of them. It's beyond choice and not choice. Allowing desires is also like surrendering them. When you really, really know what you want, there's' no choice at all. For example if I offer you the choice between your favorite desert and your least favorite food, you'd say "it's no choice". It IS but you're just VERY clear about what you want. The awareness that the law of attraction "teaches" makes you very clear about you want in the same way, it's a choice but also at the same time it's not because you're so clear about it. If you're interested in learning more check out Abraham Hicks, she is AMAZING. It's also amazing to see how this all fits in with all this other consciousness work stuff, meditation and nonduality, etc. Not to mention the bliss and happiness, forgiveness, understanding and abundance of new possibility, creativity and ideas that floods in.

Perpetual existential cosmic orgasmic bliss unfathomable by the human mind then it keeps getting more orgasmic and blissful then keeps going thenkeeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going... ?

As an observation from the point of view of someone who has had individuals in my family and around my abuse hard drugs a lot in my early life and for prolonged periods of time; I think hard drugs increase self-deception by a huge amount in some people. Sometimes uncontrollably. Bliss isn't always a given with these drugs, I think it perpetuates the notion that you as yourself have something missing and that you need something to fill an emptiness. And from my perspective I would say permanently. (even my sister has become deluded via hard drugs). She doesn't aspire to anything. In the UK we have qualifications in school that are taken by 15-16 year old called GCSEs. She's 29 with none of those. Doesn't want a job, doesn't want any form of education, wouldn't want to return, feeds off of the welfare and benefits we have here in UK. Just a 'need' to do hard drugs. Alcohol, cocaine, heroin, pretty much anything, sometimes putting her young childrens' mental health on the line. The use of drugs lead her to create issues in the community and within other individuals. She is also not blissed out constantly. She comes down to a level of 'bliss' that is precisely the reverse of what she had felt on the drugs. With psychedelics I'm much more certain the 'bliss' and lessons learned from the trip can be integrated and slowly coaxed into being revealed to the sober mind.

Other drugs can also show you that. The bliss you experience on psychedelics is different from drugs like heroin/cocaine/ketamine etc., you could say the bliss is more rewarding in a way. With psychedelics it's not guaranteed that you will have a good time, while hard drugs will always feel good (if you dont do them to much). The main difference for me is after you take 'hard drugs' you will feel bad after the effects wear off and lots of times you dont feel good for a week or so. But when I have an amazing psychedelic experience, for the next two weeks I feel better then I do usually and there is no down. So you could say the price you pay for psychedelics is different compared to 'hard drugs'

Yeap, can only recommend psychedelics. Hard drugs are a waste of time and if you are not careful you can wreck your life with them. All the bliss that hard drugs provide you can get with psychedelics. It just that it will demand more responsibility of you. But it's the only intelligent way.

Psychedelics produce bliss and euphoria too, but it usually comes at the price of high vulnerability. In more vulgar words, I would say with normal drugs you always have control, in psychedelics the higher you go the less control you usually have. I think this difference it's makes 'hard drugs' easy to abuse, while with psychedelics not.

I did. I will admit perhaps I sound unimpressed with my own enlightenment because I haven't yet satisfied my egoic goals. Trite, but even Buddha got to be a Prince first before his enlightenment. Yes it's absolutely incredible to feel bliss of being the infinite consciousness behind the ego, but after that... what? If I wanted to feel it I'd just off myself, rejoin the infinite consciousness and feel enlightenment for eternity. I don't understand - though respect their choice - people who shun the world and just mainly chill in their human enlightenment. I am driven to leave a dent in the egoic world with my life purpose, that's just the game I feel called for, being that the only meaning available in life is the one I give it.

Well, I did some tests based on my previous posts about involvement, I am far from conclusions and there is lot more to be done to clarify stuff, know how it works and how to get there in easy way and it for sure will not fix your ego problems. Don't want to make any claims and will just put it as I understand it at this moment. There are things like overlays of experience that encompass rest of things that happen in experience, might be just brain chemical but who cares, main thing is it changes how you connect to same behaviours ,actions, ego talk and so on. So this involvement, or love changes this overlay of experience and encompass you with different energy, thing with this energy is that it does not care what you do it is sorta like bliss, you are good no matter what, but , it is also dangerous to navigate for reasons. And yes it is completely sustainable, not 1 h, 1 day thing.

You aren't going crazy. Just the opposite, in fact Nothing in excess, including enlightenment. It is an upward spiral of awakenings, accompanied by ego battles, because the ego knows that truth will destroy it. Continue your spiritual practice, staying present as much as you can, and realize that the battle has just begun. The bliss will be followed by dark nights of the soul, like a train moving through a sequence of tunnels, punctuated by soul-searing light.

When you have an intimate conversation and relationship, it's the most beautiful thing in the world. You create space for love and understanding. That's all we really need to get by in life. We need each other. We need intimacy to know each other. This is sex. It's life. Without sex there is nothing. Sex and spirituality have a connection. Because both are about intimacy. All conflicts are gone during sex. It's free. It's liberating. All differences resolved. It's the most intimate connection. I feel like sex is teaching me something, something deep. Like I need to accept all the harshness in this world, that would make my journey easier. Being intimate is the only way you can truly be yourself. You can be truly free in your self expression. You can simply be yourself. This is where healing begins, because when you're intimate, you aren't judged anymore. You are loved in intimacy. You're made to feel secure. You can be you without all manipulations, you can be free, away from the world, you can say whatever you want, just anything. You can say anything. It's such a relief because finally you can feel free and not stressed out anymore. You can feel healed. You can vent out, let out. It's like deep talk therapy with a psychiatrist. It's one of the reasons why sex is so therapeutic, it can literally cure anything in the world. Do you want something that can simply cure your brain right now, a powerful cure that energizes each and every cell in your brain, that creates a beautiful garden, now I understand what Buddha meant by a beautiful garden, sex is a ginormous about of energy activated. It's an extreme release, it is this intimacy. It creates a beautiful feeling in the brain, like pure bliss, a strong protection against psychic attacks, it's almost like giving a cleansing bath to your brain computer. Sexual healing. There is just no repression. Absolute freedom. When you feel this release, this powerful free self expression, it's the deepest release of all held up swallowed karmas, everything rises to the surface. You feel absolute surrender and peace. If your mind is, even for a minute, held in a rapture of sudden pleasure, release, surrender and absolute understanding, you become liberated for a minute, you reach a different mental state, a state of pleasure and joy and in this state you feel rapture and you feel free, in this state, nothing bothers you anymore, survival looks lame, people seem petty, you do care about life but you aren't as affected. You feel healed, all tensions thrown out and then you come to homeostasis. There is no repression. Your deepest feelings are confronted. You only talk to yourself. There is no more manipulation of your sentiment or feeling. Just rotate your fingers in a circle around your breast. There is no hurt and no room for hurt during an intimate session. This is where healing begins. It's the same as self love. When someone knows you inside out, it's like you're loving yourself. If somebody asked you to describe how you look, it's difficult without a mirror, but with a mirror it's much easier, when you love yourself, it feels hard like a routine, but when you are loved, it's much easier. It's like medicine given to children with a sugar pill. It digests better. Same way. There is a sweetened elegance and ease when someone loves you intimately. And when they do understand you thoroughly, it's like self love, the only difference being someone else is loving you as though you are loving yourself. It's like a twin mate who understands you inside and out. And now that you have this mate, it suddenly feels like self love. The healing begins slowly. You get renewed courage and you feel like you can take on things. You can finally get the love to fuel your actions and positivity.