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Adamq8 replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@RMQualtrough But the general anaesticia is a "jump" In concious awareness, there is no possibility to remain in an unconcious state since it is like time travel. What does that say about the nature of conciousness in my opinion? That conciousness can not experience unconciousness. But still there are people who has OBE's or remain as a silent witness through anesthesia as well so it is not really a valid argument for nothingness either, my GF was awake during surgery even tho she didnt feel anything and she was put to sleep. A more valid point would be the cessation in meditation, but that as well may last for an eternity but it is not possible to "experience" it in that manner. I like your theory btw. Some teachers/lineages talk about the Absolute prior to conciousness but they also claim that it is an awareness with infinite potential and that conciousness is its agent. Perhaps it is the case of a nothingness that exist or that it is being and non being at the same time and both and neither as it is said. Perhaps nothingness is the "ground", maybe it is more of a principle then a being. Like pure GOD in it self might not be a being but an creative principle that has no other choice then to actualize its infinite potential since it is not a being. If that is the case then it is safe to conclude imo that conciousness is reality and it has always been since the Absolute is outside of time and space and it does what it does since it is what it is haha if you get me. God is perhaps existence and non existence but transcend both. It is a radical thing which kinda is impossible to grab. But the Absolute produces dreams and different universes and it is not two and then you are IT always and forever since time is the dream. To paraphrase Donald Hoffmans statement : We are like kids in an infinite candy store ready to explore for all of eternity ?? There is no end to conciousness since there is no possibility to experience the absence of conciousness forever, then it is just experience happening to no one. I think that it is possible to experience without a body and brain, why wouldnt it? What would say that is not possible? You can experience yourself as a glass of orange juice lol. So experience is the only thing that can happen since the Absolute is more or less like non existence to us, it is a principle and a produces infinite dreams and universes. Nice conversation btw i really enjoy it. ? -
RMQualtrough replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am theorizing it's deeper than experience. It's just "nothingness". It is consciousness by nature but without experience there isn't experiencer. Consciousness then exists but in a manner similar to how we experience general anaesthetic? Anyway consider this... Consider that humans are the ONLY things in the entire universe that can see red. If all humans stopped existing, the qualia of red can't be found anywhere anymore, it vanishes. If a human is magically born again, red reappears. In between those stages, the qualia of red "ceases". I am theorizing that in that period where there are no humans it returns to the Absolute/God where it """doesn't exist""". God contains ALL and infinite qualia whether they are being experienced or not. Right now you can envision there very literally are infinite colors but they are all in God and not being experienced. But they have the potential to be. In some other reality perhaps it is. But where red "goes to" when nothing experiences it is the default and the Absolute. It is where our localized forms come from and go to. This dream is a dream of the "science universe" and experience happening inside this dream is localized here so adheres to the rules of this dream. E.g. gravity etc. And brains are just one such thing that exists which has "experience". Where there is experience there must be "experiencer", and the qualia is pulled from "God" (nothingness). Kill the brain and localization of experience etc ends and it goes back to where that red goes when nothing perceives it. What do you think of that? Perhaps consciousness isn't fundamental. Perhaps consciousness is just a possible quality of "God". And God is nothing. -
RMQualtrough replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dream is metaphorical here. From inside of the dream is duality. I saw Leo say in a video, that "God" is what is looking through our eyes. I get that. That thing is one and absolute. The eyes and human it is sensing is finite and localized. Like in a dream we humans have, how could you possibly experience anything without being localized somewhere? E.g. something Spira said, if there is a dream of a beach, the moment you see the beach you are somewhere localized inside that dream. The second you have any experience there is duality. Without duality when things return to a total nondual state, there is cessation. Call this universe the "science dream". This is a dream where math, matter, space and time exists. Experience that happens inside here conforms to the universe it is happening in. It just so happens that in here, matter came together to create forms. The matter IS consciousness but it has no experience so if we could experience an atom's relative view it would be permanently in "Nirvana" (void/nothingness). It does not mean it is not consciousness it just has no experience (I am assuming). When matter formed complex lifeforms and experience began to occur, consciousness is localized inside where that experience happens. Like the dream of a beach thing, say there is some disembodied sight receptacle floating around a mountain, as soon as that exists, consciousness is localized into that point where there is experiencer and experience (the experience being the vision of the mountain). Complex lifeforms are millions or perhaps billions of points of experience working together as a singular unit. As you destroy the brain you are wittling away elements of localized consciousness. When localized consciousness is destroyed it stops being localized and is immediately sent back to the One, Absolute, Infinite, "God". There is no issue I can see with brains literally causing localized experience. It is not creating the qualia or consciousness itself. Or is there an issue with that theory? -
Adamq8 replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What if there is nothing but experiencing? Experience experiences experience ??? What if the universe is only experience and experience has always been forever and ever. What if nothingness is just a construction? Not saying that this is true. Have you ever in your entire life had something that is not an experience? What if prior to your birth you had a different experience but the memory is not clear on that? What if the universe is a field of phenomenal conciousness and there is naught else but experience? The universal mind, the unconcious in jungian terms, it is not unconcious as in not conciousness, but it is not a self reflective conciousness, "meta conciousness " but it is phenomenal conciousness, just like in a dream, you only know you are dreaming when you become lucid, exactly like in life when awakening occurs, then you become lucid also. There is nothing else but phenomenal conciousness and it is always moving and changing aka impermance. The universal field is a transpersonal infinity of phenomenal conciousness, that is obvious in psychedelic trips, dreams, NDE's etc. What if reality is experience and there is nothing else? Conciousness is the substratum of reality, it can go infinitely "low" and infinitely "high" There is no limit to what kind of experiences thats possible. Everything is brahman and that thou art. -
Leo Gura replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
YOU The brain IS consciousness. Consciousness changes itself. That's what consciousness ever does. It's more radical than that. With a deep enough awakening you will realize there never was a brain to destroy. And then you are Everythingness, yes. The "experiencer" is God/YOU, AKA Nothingness. It is made within YOU right now as you imagine it, yes. There is if you imagine it. A thing can only exist within consciousness. There is no such thing as non-existence. Only Existence. Existence is Absolute. It is already Nothing. -
I was just doing a little thought experiment assuming that this waking world is literally a dream. All of it, all matter etc is part of the dream. All aspects of us apart from pure consciousness (the dreamer) are part of the dream. Seeing is part of the dream. Hearing is part of the dream. Physical matter can be responsible for causing our localized selves to see or hear because our localized selves are localized inside this dream. So for example, say we had a dream and in that "universe", there is a brain and the laws of the dream dictate that if you stimulate the left frontal lobe or something, the sensation of fear appears. Well because we are then localized selves inside that universe, that would be our experience if inside the dream we were to do that. The localized self adheres to the setup of the "dream" (universe) it is inside of. In this "dream", something called matter exists which form brains and brains cause seeing. Because we are ALSO inside this dream, we require a brain to see. Inside this dream is space and time, which we experience because it is part of the dream we're localized in. Sheer consciousness I am considering is literally void/nothingness (because without experience there is no longer an experiencer), and yet it's also everythingness at the same time. Everything exists inside nothingness. Nothingness is God. Nothingness is Absolute? When the localized form ceases to have experience, all that is left is that sheer consciousness/void/nothing. We came from "nothing" and still are nothing?
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RMQualtrough replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It can't be impossible to reconcile the two things. The relative experience of anaesthesia etc is cessation/nothingness. Cessation doesn't mean it stops existing. The states mentioned are still full of human things, not suddenly sonar vision like a bat and so on. I think the Absolute is nothingness. Pure infinite consciousness is totally nondual, no experience exists here, nor time, nor anything. Nothingness = everythingness. Go to the big bang. From say a void perspective there is no experience of anything. But this is happening. When experience happens the "experiencer" appears. I think someone very recently said, when experience stops the experiencer ceases too, and pure consciousness is something deeper than that. When there is experience then, is it just tapping into some of the infinite qualia already present? So possibly nothing in the entire universe rn can see an infinite myriad of colors which DO exist but can't currently be experienced... that we just see as a certain shade of blue or w.e. In a dream, as soon as you see anything you are localized somewhere in the dream. It is impossible to experience a dream without duality being created. With legit full nonduality there is cessation/nothingness/the void. What is the existence of things prior to subjective experience like. When consciousness is still 100% nondual. There is no way that these things are mutually exclusive. -
just because you cant do nothing doesn't mean others cant D: There is a qualitative difference between sitting in meditation and when doing something. The magnitude of peacefulness is so much deeper when alone with the heart, no drama no mind. That is do nothing, and then I accept any movement because that is part of the nothingness. Uncreated, natural movement allowed. I don't sit like a statue, many tense up too much while meditating. It's the number 1 self help habit to have... Now Leo is on about other things, but for me he hit gold with the meditation habit.
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Without experience is no experiencer. At the beginning of the universe there were no consciois minds to observe it. It would be a state of "cessation" like universal general anaesthesia. But still all of these existent things like light and matter were happening... Evidently living material things have evolved to have a conscious experience of the environment creating an experience and experiencer. People have issue with the fact that anaesthesia or destroying the brain causes cessation. But cessation/nothingness is the true nature of all reality. That is what we actually all are, it's the default and the Absolute. Rather than these sense organs creating the qualia of color and such, is it just revealing or tapping into it? Are there infinite colors? Infinite sounds? Infinite qualia including things we cannot ever access? When a bat uses sonar what is sonar like from the inside? We can see what it is like from the outside with electrical currents in the brain, and determine how far in terms of physical distance it functions, but nothing of what it is like from inside the bat. Is that just one example of infinite qualia that can exist whenever "experience" and hence then "experiencer" is created? Did humans used to see blue as some other color but it wasn't evolutionarily beneficial? How do you suppose the brain is tapping into these things? Without a physical brain there is no separation or experience from this PoV, just cessation (nothingness, the default and true nature of reality). If all brains cease to exist and all experience ceases to exist, there is still a big bang etc?
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or if he does, it is not really gambling for God. If you have unlimited resources, you are not gambling. Only if your resources are finite can you lose or gain anything.. So it is not up to me whether God play dice or not, but if he does, its not equal to the human one. Its impossible made possible, whichever way we look at it, if we say that reality came out of nothingness. Here is a quote that my ex-girlfriend has given me, way before I even was into spirituality: "Remember that this world is not real! It is a battlefield of opposing forces, where we learn the practice of overcoming that which appears to be using that which we know is the true reality" (true reality aka Love, as mentioned by Leo). - Richard Bach If we try to understand how all of this works etc, we might become insane... There are so many little details that go way way deep. One can get lost simply in one area because it is infinite and always has more to understand... So it is better to just leave it to love and act as/in love so we are tuned with the force that moves all this.
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justfortoday replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
First, let's use a different analogy. I don't like violence or condone it. We still all inhabit the same dreamspace. So, let's act as godly and christ-like as possible. The foundational block of all of existence, as cheesy as it sounds, is metaphysical love. All of existence is like, a ray of love suspended in nonexistence. Your premise is correct. If I make love to a woman, she is completely imaginary - she's a refraction of my own mind. I have imagined her into existence, therefore going back in time and creating the timeline that led up to her existing. HOW is this possible? MAGIC. Absolute power without opposite. In this case, you created a new square in this Zoom call, you are God (the host of the meeting) — once your current square ends, you will "awake" or pass the host to another square, and THERE YOU ARE — you awake as a newborn. The twisted part is that you will one day live the life of the woman you made love to. That's right, you made love to yourself. In this way, reality closes the strange-loop of both of the POVs and realizes the moment from all perspectives. Absolute consciousness is like a very pervy observer that wants to see each moment from every POV. Because it is every POV. As you live your life, you are continuously creating new characters. This way infinity branches out forever. The "zoom call" is happening absolutely nowhere, in the complete void. Inside nothingness, zero, you. But nothingness can play with sacred MATH and create waves of energy or vibration/frequency that appears as color (frequency), sound (frequency), touch(relay). Matter is sluggish mind/frequency. Not physical. Think of consciousness as a sentient, reactionary field / square in this zoom call that can experience color, sound, touch — all of these are frequency. These frequencies of sacred math create your "reality". Another analogy is that you are inside of a dream. When you dream, every character you encounter is a construction of your own mind. But you don't realize that those characters ALSO had their own internal monologue. That's right. Because you are infinity/consciousness, you also created all of your dream characters, and the timelines that led up to them encountering you in your dream. So even the characters of your dream had their own "lives" — but they were all you. It's the same when you are "awake" — everyone is you. The same mind dreaming. That mind is you. You went ahead and tricked yourself by giving yourself two POVs, your left eye and your right eye (you don't actually have eyes, as you don't actually have a face) but the POVs correspond to two eyes. This creates the illusion of 3D, therefore solidifying the illusion. Close one of your eyes, now your 3D vision is gone. Now ask yourself.... what is behind me? You turn, but the bubble of consciousness moves with you. You cannot see "behind" yourself, because there is no behind. It's not that your head is moving in space and that your eyes are receiving light from an outside world.... you are projecting the world FROM your "eyes". The light in your eyes is all there is. Just really digest what I am saying here. The light in your eyes is all there is. Other people / POV's - The light in their eyes, is all there is. You project them, and they project you. This creates the illusion of a physical universe, but in reality it is sacred math simulating a world for itself. Again, the ZOOM call analogy is the most fitting I could find. It's a stream... a giant cosmic drama. And you are the hero of it. So live the hero's path and you may transcend being human, to embodying love and magic. -
RMQualtrough replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Seraphim If there is experience it is dual, with a subject and an object. Say you smoked toad, and everything ceases but white void. There's still a subject perceiving the white void. In literal cessation of subject/object there is nothingness like going under general anaesthetic. -
WaveInTheOcean replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Good. But I made it better: Another analogy is: Reality = Giant ZOOM Call with infinite participants. Your life is one of these squares. There is no material universe, it's just divisions of screens of Infinite Formless Consciousness. However, there has to be a "host" for this meeting. You are that host right now. You are God. Which is also identical to Infinite Formless Conscousness. It's One. Zero. Oneness. Unity. Undivided. Whole. Nothingness. Everything. Divine Play. Heavenly Music. An Endless Dance Without Dancers. God. Love. Goodness. Infinity. Eternity. The Ground of Being. The Groundless Ground. The Self-Less Self. God. You. I. ... _ < > ^^ You are IT. If you are reading this, you are now the host of the ZOOM Call. You see? The Absolute. Consciousness. Source. Eternal Infinity. All the other squares are real experiences that people had, but they are not "ON" — only YOU are on. Only your square in this ZOOM Call is on -- and as soon as your call is done, the next square lights up. In this way: Everything is Mind, rendering the external physical world merely an optical illusion. Imagination. Reality = Imagination Imagination = Reality. No paradox. No opposites. In Truth. Just EXPERIENCE. BEING. Nothingness. So VOID It becomes FULL. It is Infinity multiplying Itself to Infinity. Infinite Intelligence. Cosmic Consciousness. God. Everything is very, very, very deliberate. There are only "apparent coincidences". Have Faith. Fate. Hope. Let go. Love. Play. Surrender. It's all One - (but where have We been heading to?) You may be caught ... but you are so deliberately. freely imprisoned Hey. What's up. Wanna wake up? You are going to wake up. Personally, I can't sleep anymore! Wakey, wakey. Hey God. Hi You. Hi Me. Nothing is going on. Don't fear. It's all just a game. But WE are playing it! You can never not play. muuuuuuuuusiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic -
justfortoday replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I called SOLIPSISM a belief. Read the thread. Even my original post I specifically called the fact that there is only you a truth. YOU are interpreting it as solipsism. I am not proposing solipsism, I am proposing nonduality. Truth = Zero, Nothingness, Consciousness, Magic. -
justfortoday replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah man, I feel you. But you gotta realize that TRUTH is shocking. You still believe there is a separate God somewhere that is reigning over you, and earth, etc. No such thing. You are god right now experiencing your own creation. GOD, is a hive mind, and you are a node in this hive mind, while simultaneously being the entire mind network. There is no superior entity to you. You are it. You are zero. Nothingness. Hallucinating everything around you. -
justfortoday replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Javfly33 I am 100% behind what I said in my original post. I have had an NDE, multiple mystical states and I am applying logic and reason to the origin of reality, nothingness, zero. -
I was wondering whether anyone else had experienced Kundalini as a Goddess. During the initial stages of my awakening, during 2011-2012, I experienced Kundalini as a serpentine energy, as descibed by most people and classical works on the subject. During the latter stages, the sensation became physical and whenever Kundalini was active inside me, I experienced a black serpent wriggling around in my body, along the spine, gradually rising ever further upwards and bumping its head against energetic blocks in my body in a rhythmic fashion. When the serpent got stuck, just above the heart chakra and couldn’t push its head through the knot found there, I experienced intense chronic chest pain, heart palpitations, neurological symptoms, such as memory loss and slowness of movement. I then prayed for divine intervention and the Goddess appeared to me in person, performed shaktipat on me, then united with me energetically and allowed me to experience enlightenment, a breakthrough at the final knot at the top back part of the head (I believe this is called Brahmarendra, the cavity of God), which broke with an audible cracking noise. Then, liquid light came roaring in, I expanded in all directions in an ecstatic bliss and became boundless and all-knowing, at least for a short while. In that state, I felt universal and understood everything about reality, universe, life, or whatever else you can think of. When i eventually returned to my body, I only retained a tiny portion of the knowledge I had access to in the universal state. I also felt constrained and suffocated by my own body, but I gradually returned to normal consciousness. The Goddess aspect of Kundalini is rarely emphasised, or if so, usually only in abstract terms, but I wonder how many people have been visited by her as a living Goddess and how common this is? I found a reference in the book of essays, Kundalini Rising, by Lawrence Edwards, whose experience closely mirrors my own. I’m not sure how much I can quote from his work, before triggering the copyright bots, so I’ll try to quote only the most succinct sections, that are most relevant to this point. Chapter: Kundalini Her Symbols of Transformation and Freedom LAWRENCE EDWARDS, PHD THE GIFTS OF MAHA KALI “ Once a renowned author who had written about Kundalini came to meet my guru, Swami Muktananda. Baba, as my guru was known, was revered for his exalted visions of the Kun- dalini and his rare ability to give shaktipat. The author, too, had visions of Kundalini, but to him she appeared quite unimpressive, looking like an ordinary woman, not like a God- dess at all. As he waited outside the room where Baba was receiving visitors, he was astonished to have a vision of the Goddess Kundalini herself entering the room where Baba was—only this time she appeared in her most regal and resplendent form, magnif- icent and awe inspiring … Baba, he asked why it was that she appeared so ordinary to him, while for Baba she came as the Goddess of the Universe. Baba replied simply, “Because I worship her.” … The intense practices I began doing culminated in a series of meditation experiences in Baba’s ashram meditation hall during a weekend retreat in 1982. Various forms of the Goddess began appearing fully and spontaneously in meditation, as real as any person standing in front of me. I worshipped each in turn, trembling and awestruck as I did and only able to do so because of the strength the Shakti gave me in the moment to withstand Her Divine presence. Goddess after Goddess appeared until finally Maha Kali was present there before me. I prayed with all my heart to be able to stay conscious. Her skin was blacker than black, like deep black velvet in a darkened room. Yet in some miraculous way Her form was radiant, revealing Her own richly magnificent blackness. A thought ap- peared in my mind: “My God, this is Kali! She’s the Great Mother, Goddess of the Uni- verse, creator and destroyer of all that is!” But She was in the most exquisite, beautiful, loving form, not the fearsome presence She is usually depicted as having. This was Her hidden form. I did the only thing I knew to do: I did puja to Her, an ancient Indian form of worship, while shaking with a mixture of fear, awe, and overwhelming love. Tears flowed down my cheeks. Then the Goddess came forward and embraced me, wrapping Herself around me. Everything slowed down. I could feel myself gradually merging into Her, and I could hear Her laughing the wildest, most ecstatic laugh! We disappeared from the ordinary world. My awareness shifted, and I could see the whole solar system with all its planets, and then stars and galaxies being withdrawn into Her. The entire universe was merging into Her, and all the while it was merging, the infinitude of the cosmos rever- berated with Her ecstatic laughter. Finally, I disappeared into Her as I dissolved into infi- nite Light and Love, and then into a nothingness beyond even that, beyond the mind, be- yond any duality of experience. There simply was no “me” left; I was gone, gone, gone be- yond. … The experience ended; feeling profoundly grateful, I bowed to my inner guru, my Goddess Kundalini. This had all unfolded as a re- sult of shaktipat from my Siddha master, Muktananda Baba, years earlier, and my prayer to know the highest form of worship of Kundalini. Complete worship merges you with the one you worship. Through worship and prayer, the Goddess reveals the mysteries of Her creation to Her creature: the seeker—you! … No words can describe how overwhelmed and truly awestruck I was by the appearance of the Goddesses classically depicted in the chakras, followed by Maha Kali Herself. These were the Goddesses that Kundalini manifests, as well as Her primal form as Maha Shakti, the great power, that takes the form of Maha Kali, the Black Goddess. It is this highest power that dissolves the universe as She merges into the sahasrara, creating it once again as She descends from that transcendent realm. … Just as the aspects of Divine Consciousness were being presented to my awareness sym- bolically in the forms of the Goddesses, in the same way the union with those Divine forms was symbolized by sexual union. Readers familiar with the experiences of mystics of many spiritual traditions will recognize that this is a common way for union with the Di- vine to express itself. Very often the Tantric traditions, both yogic and Buddhist, that deal with the Divine Feminine depict union in this way. Carnal symbolism and the experience of that form of symbolic merger in meditation are often confusing for people, especially Westerners, who take it literally. From: Kundalini Rising: Exploring the Energy of Awakening. Sounds True Inc. Short Excerpts from pages 294-298 “ So, this is really interesting to me, as it is so close to my own experience of Union with the Goddess and her many visits to me. Maybe it is a bit esoteric (on in other words, Tantric), but I would really like to hear from others who may have experienced this.
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Javfly33 replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How sure are you of this "Insights"? Especially "Other people" and "Death". Please be honest. If you say 100% , I expect you to no Lt be scared at all of death and be absolutely loving to other people since they are you and you will live their lives as God/Nothingness, right ? And if you don't say 100%, then we are just playing the never ending game, some mystical states here and there, and then some interpretations mixed with non dual theory and Leo's teaching, shake it, apply some belief intention and we are good to go to feel like we have sorted it out, but of course we keep behaving like scared little devils because deep inside us there is still doubts and we are NOT REALLY sure. So, please, give it a rate. Have the balls of saying "100%" ? -
The Buddha replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@justfortoday You are much more advanced than I am but I see a clear blind spot. It is called the full circle. This is was very common in ancient Egypt and it was the last secret revealed. When one arrived to a super conciousness state by mastering all paths (wisdom, devotion, Mind, non-dual...) one arrived to a see through the ilusion and understand the core of all existance, which then formed everything else. Therefore, the master asked to reconstruct from this core existance layer by layer again his ego reality, for it is also real in the sense that an ilusion is real and also must be understood. Understanding how from the God-Head of his being all the transformation and alchimical processes happened till one finds himself in this existance where, even though it's pretty clear it's nothing, it's also pretty clear there is more. This is at least the main blind spot I see in all masters, where the are enlightened about enlightenment but not about non-enlightenment (Unless they are God-Realized where then this is all non-sense). For the one that is truly interested in Truth, it is not only enough by going to the source and understanding it but by also how the whole game of existance is played. Because this is not just random nothingness, this is armonious beyond our understanding. For it is deconstructed to know the most juicy insights, then it must be constructed to engage in the divine game of existance. For this is a great cosmic play. Knowing that the dream is a dream is also a dream, that insight must be had, that insight must also be left, as well as all those that have been stated here. If u wanna Truly be liberated. -
justfortoday replied to justfortoday's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
1. — It's neither solipsism or materialism, all possibilities exist super-positioned (like quantum mechanics states), you are simply forking your way through the game as you play it. Solipsism is just some concept you are imagining right now, it carries some truth, but the truth is WAY more radical than solipsism. 2. I have personally seen through the illusion, and without much use of psychedelics. Only used marijuana on a weekly basis and some shrooms once or twice. But once you see the illusion and are able to "see" consciousness and observe it, there is no unseeing that. 3. Sorry to break it to ya, but it's true : ) You are all that exists right now. It does not mean other POVs aren't real, it just means you haven't lived their lives yet. That's right, you will live every single life of every thing you have ever encountered in your life. Because you are them, and this is a VR experience, and you are the single player. 4. Magic as limitless power to modify reality to its will. Consciousness/nothingness is magic itself. You are divine. -
Hope this post helps you on your journey. These insights and learnings have been gained through a lot of sweat and tears. Part I: What am I existentially? Close your eyes. Imagine having no vision at all. Not even the ability to perceive darkness. Just complete loss of vision. Yet you remain. Cover your ears. Imagine having no hearing at all. Not even the ability to perceive silence. Yet you remain. Now imagine having no body at all. Yet you remain. What you are, metaphysically, is a complete void. A zero. Infinite. You see, nothingness is uncreated, it is required. Imagine nothing, since it is nothing, it needed no creator. It always was. Nothing is equal to zero, which equals infinite positive numbers paired with infinite negative numbers and infinite combinations. A system of balanced energy that always equals to zero. This is called frequency. All color, sound, touch is nothing but frequency, number. Nothingness is infinite in all degrees. Everything is mind. You may also replace mind with spirit. Part II: The Universe Complete fantasy. There is no physical, external universe with "space" in which you move. The true universe is the present moment you are experiencing. It is a mindspace, not a physical box full of matter. Part III: Time Time is actually running "backwards" but we perceive it inversely. Watch the video below. The "matter" or "objects" seem to control the human, not the other way around. The matter or objects you see are just refractions of your infinite mind. PAST = FUTURE FUTURE = PAST It also renders gravity useless. Another invention. Part IV: What is reality? Reality is a VR experience created with infinite intelligence by nothingness itself, so that it could experience itself from a multiplicity of viewpoints for eternity. You see, reality is a possibility pool. Basically everything, every possibility has already happened outside of time and space. That means this very moment you are "living" has happened an infinite number of times, and will continue to happen as it is infinite. THIS IS A REPLAY. As you navigate your "life" and make choices, you are forking your POV, recalling these moments that have already happened outside of time and space, and they materialize as reality for you. The "universe" is rendered as needed by the POV. Much like in a dream. Part V: Other People This is going to be controversial, but I can assure you it is true. This right now, this instance of consciousness that is reading these words is the only POV in existence. This present moment is all there is. Imagine that you record yourself for a full day playing a bunch of characters. You do 30 impressions and you record them on video. You then decide to wipe your memories of making the videos, and decide to watch one movie each day for 30 days, yet you don't know that it was you playing those characters. All other people are unreal, because again, *everything* happened in eternity. Your life is the infinite forking of possibilities in this pool. In this case, your life is one of these movies, and once it's over, there is another movie to play. You and I are not conscious at the same time, it's an illusion. That means that this field that is conscious of these words, is the same field that held Jesus' life, Buddha's life, etc. You are walking in some big shoes. It is literally the same consciousness. Part VI: Your Senses You believe that you have a brain that renders colors, sound and touch to get you your "reality", but in true reality you are hallucinating everything around you. Your imagination is so powerful that it is indistinguishable from "reality". Part VII: Magic I can personally attest to the fact that magic is real. I have had a NDE + multiple awakenings. Magic is a feature of nothingness as there is nothing to oppose nothingness. Part VI: Death Doesn't exist. Death has always been a first-person experience you are having of others "dying", but no one has died ever, because no one has lived, ever. Again, it's an illusion. When you "die", you are reborn as another POV.
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Endangered-EGO replied to Endangered-EGO's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@kinesin I just asked the same thing in a shinzen young forum, I was told that this could be the 4th jhana (equanimity). And apparently this purification of the rotten feeling is part of the purgatory in abrahamic religion. The first time i felt that was the fear of nothingness/dark night of the soul. This disgusting energy in my body. Yes you're right, now that I've been through it, I guess that I don't have to fear it anymore. I always backed off before. Now unfortunately I didn't have any change in perception or enlightenment, but I might have digested a part of my shadow. But damn why does that feel so bad. It's not an emotion or a bodily sensation, I honestly can only describe it as a rotten burning sensation. -
Zeldor replied to Tech36363's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Hulia Isn’t everything transient though? Eventually, even you life will end. Eventually (supposedly) the universe will undergo thermal heat-death or something. I agree with you though that happiness isn’t really what people want, but I have no idea of what a better metric would be. Integration? Peace? Love? Nothingness? Anything you want bc everything is equal? Anything at all? I have no idea. -
Thanks to you guys,I managed to go through the nauseous cloudy feeling in my Body! Awakening? Okay, so I mentioned that sometimes when I am close to awakening this rotten feeling of discomfort comes through my Body, and I always used to stop when it occured and then felt bad about it. Today I went through with it. I just let it expand and noticed the fear and feeling of unease expecting an awakening or some kind of mystical experience, my heart started pounding and then: nothing happened. I expected some fireworks at the end of going through that thing I struggled with for months, but nothing at all, my heart calmed down and I just continued meditating. Then after my meditation app stopped I sat there for a while, eyes closed, and I don't entirely remember what happened (even though it was 10 minutes ago). But the darkness in front of my eyes became white and I was kind of absorbed into that "loud silence" After a few minutes I opened my eyes and was really confused looking around the room, I got a little bit nervous and then my normal sense of self returned. No bliss, no dream-awakening, no pleasure, no pain, no nothingness. What is that "experience" I went through? I did self-inquiry followed by 20 minutes breath-concentration practice. How am I supposed to classify it, if I cannot remember it correctly? Is that cessation? A jhana? A seizure (I hope not lol)?
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Non-Origination is not non-existence for me, and yes as someone rightly said- EVERYTHING IS EXISTENCE-! And yes- Nothingness is existence, not non-existence.
