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? The main difference is that between waking up through the mind or waking up through the heart - I'd say. Mind is all masculine, indeed. But it's also the very thing that's holding many back. Look around... Toxic masculinity is by far the dominant energy, in all ways possible. Things must be balanced out. One does not fight fire with fire. Integration of both 'aspects' is what results in a well - balanced, awakened being, imo. Loving and Wise. - Not just one or the other.

Karma yoga is one of the mainstream yogic paths, usually done with a combination of bakhti and gyan, so he's just wrong here lol. He also seems very ethnocentric. 'dont awaken serpents because serpent bad hur dur'...tf kind of logic was he on about there ahaha. I highly doubt he's awakened, if somenoes looking to this guy for spiritual growth then I'd say they're looking in the wrong areas-but what do I know, I'm not awake .

I’ve watched a fair bit of this bloke and I think it’s difficult to deny he’s on the ball with this stuff. Clearly a different personality type to most awakened people ya tend to come across. But listen to the the things he says and how he talks about it. For me he’s clearly where he claims to be. Gifted I don’t know, as he’s put in a lot of work. Personally I’d say his works paid off more than just being outright gifted. But unless being around the guy and actually getting to know him a bit, then it’s all a bit of guess work I suppose

The Fourth Way in general refers to the inner and outer parts of the centers. Personality is at the outer part of the centers. Contact with the inner parts of the centers reveals essence. Different aspects of essence. Distinguishing Physical Sensation from Essential Substance The capacity to sense oneself must become so refined that the individual can discriminate between physical sensation and the sensation of essential substance. It is not enough that the mind be quiet. It is also necessary for the body to be sensitive. The mind can be quiet while the body is deadened. The body has to be awakened so that the center of sensing, the belly center, can be activated. The belly center, or what Gurdjieff called the physical center, is the center of sensing for all parts of the body. Its deepest function is the subtle sensing, the sensing of essential presence, that the Sufis call the organ for touch. Touch is, in a sense, the most intimate of the physical senses. The skin must be directly against an object to touch it. There is no intermediary medium, like sound for hearing or light for seeing. So this subtle capacity is a very intimate one. Accurately speaking, it is sensing essence by being essence. It is the most direct way of perception. This capacity of touch, connected with the belly center, is very intimately connected with the embodiment of essence. It is the body center; its mode of perception is embodiment. Here, perception as touch, and being, are the same act. So this capacity is the most important one. Essence with the Elixir of Enlightenment, pg. 130 from Glossary page - https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/belly-center

Which ego? :-) Where is it? Can you show me, please. Where does it exist? What is it made out of? What does it look like? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am fully aware that, ultimately, there is absolutely "no one" who ever wakes up. But for the love of God, we live inside the dream, and if this forum has to have any purpose, we have to collectively accept that it is possible for any characther inside the dream to wake up..., wake up as in the sense that it's God waking up through these characters to itself. I have realized I am God/Love, I know I'm God, and I'm directly aware I'm sitting here on a forum talking to myself. Right now. The question is, are you? If not, how come? Wake up There is no one here To even say God is here is ultimately false. All we say with words is completetly and utterly false. The Truth can't be spoken. Instead, the Truth can only be something you become/directly experience. Become it then. Experience it. But what? You say, you don't know what it is. But I tell you: YOU DO! IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. That's how obvious it is! Like a fish swimming around in the ocean, looking for "water", that's what we are all doing, pre-awakening. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I know it's pointless to write "I'm awakened", cos all it will do is create resistance in all the other egoic victim-minds sitting here. It's better to show than tell. However, in this case with this dude, bashing Connor's videos, and acting like he himself knows what's up and down -- when he obviously does not -- I thought, hell, why the fuck not. At least I hope I can provocate some emotion inside him, hate,... that he can at least be honest about that. Honesty is key. Can you guys at least be honest? Where is the ego, now, again?

You are very, very confused. Let me try to break it down for you, even though you will resist what I'm saying with all the ego you can confjure up (makes me question why I do this, but what the fuck, why do anything at all, one might say). 1. You say you don't look down on him, then proceed to obviously look down on him. Hilarious 2. Where am I defending him in my post exactly? Quote me 3. I could not give a bigger fuck whether or not he is awakened. Really. All I'm doing here is pointing out how fucking amazingly funny it is that you - on the other hand - is not giving a fuck about it, hehe. What I give a fuck about, though, is the wisdom of the words he is spitting out in his youtube-vidoes lately. Focus on the words, instead of the person. His latest video is basically 21 minutes of pure truth-dropping. I love what he's saying. I don't give a fuck about whether or not he is awakened, although to me, he is one of the most awakened dudes I've come across lately. It's fine that you disagree, but I'm just blown away of the wisdom in this video: 4. " I was in it for the development of health, weight gain and euphoria of exercise" . Oh right, you were, I forgot that So why did you want to develop better health and gain weight? For what purpose, exactly? If you say "to have a healthier body", then I ask again: Why do you want to have a healthier body? If you say "It feels nice", I may ask: "Why do you want it to feel nice?" Who wants to have a healthier body, who wants it to feel nice? Also why the fuck gain some muscle, anyway? Not to impress the girls, that's for sure, right? 5. I haven't watched his earlier videoes except of just skimming through his old channel, and by looking at the video thumbnails I can clearly see that only people who were still very much stuck in orange would watch these kind of videos. 6. "Hierarchies in this work are delusional." Oh, they are? In which "work", you say? So Trump was as equally awakened/liberated/enlightened/selfless as Jesus? Is that what you are saying? 7. Anyway, let's for a moment pretend that all humans on Earth are on the same level of consciousness -- no hierachies as you say -- and then look at what you wrote: "He completely adorned the superficiality of the gym lifestyle, which I found to be demonstrably depreciate it. " If there are no hierarchies, how come you call something as innocent as "gym lifestyle" superficial? Is it really any more superficial than you and me sitting on an internet forum discussing whether or not a random dude could be awakened or not? Is it more superficial than a man sitting in a cave meditating 24-7-365 ??? If yes, why? If no, then why call it superficial? Superficial according to who's standards? Superficial in regards to what, exactly? 8. "My estimation is that he is stuck in the territory of self-concept and ego, through which his rants are taking place and subduing others. Hence, his dualistic rants and pontificating." Why do you even spend time conjuring up an estimation of him? If he's just talking random dualistic ego-shit out of his mouth, why do you even care to attack him at all? If it's so obvious that he's talking nonsense, why do you take so much of your sweet time to attack the obvious? "territory of self-concept and ego" .. which territory exactly? There is no ego, ultimately speaking. You can't find it, cos it doesn't exist. Of course, relatively speaking there is ego. ((( Ego is all that in our personalities/mind which keep on insisting that We (We = Love = God = Consciousness) are not Love/Oneness but instead an isolated human being, a separate person, a 'poor little me', lacking something, and fearing the brutal cold, outside world, which will us no good. ))) ... ...Which also means that, relatively speaking, it makes perfect sense to talk about different levels of consciousness. Yes, ultimately speaking, we are all One, and Trump = Buddha = Love = Me = You. ... But it doesn't really make any sense at all to try to speak of the ultimate truth, really, because words can only point to it, nothing more. We can't state the truth with words, only talk about it. To get the truth, one must directly experience it, become it. So let's get some relative truths on the board now, shall we,: This dude has awakened to Oneness. I am awakened, too, and therefore my opinion on the matter is infinitly more valuable than your egoic, selfish, victim-mindset-beyond-obvious-shadow-projection critique of him. That you call his recent talks in his videos for "dualistic rants" makes me question if you have ever read a spiritual book or watched a spiritual video. Maybe you have. And maybe, instead, you are just insanely mad at yourself and him. For obvious reasons. And mad alone can't do it. You probably feel justified to feel that you should always be more "spiritual mature" than a guy who has made a living of posting "empty" Stage-Orange-content on a Youtube-channel. So not only are you mad, you are jealous, deeply sad (deep inside) and full of resentment. You feel like a 'poor little me', which is now imposing his beliefs to the this meaningless forum, about whether or not some random dude is awakened. Like it fucking matters. So therefore, if you want me to brutally honest, you are deluded and confused beyond what I thought was possible for someone on this forum to be. (Ultimately speaking, this means that I am that, and it saddens me, but it's also hilarious). Really, what is happening here, is that Connor is just expressing himself freely. He couldn't give a bigger fuck what you and I think of him. And what are you doing here? All you do is talking him down and criticizing him. For what fucking purpose? Stop masturbating around in your own egoic circle-jerk-victim-mind and start expressing yourself freely, like he does. Write/do something that means someting to you and the world, really, instead of just talking other people down. Yes, I'm also talking you down now, but I have to talk low-conscious-ego-stupidity down when I see it. Sure, get mad at me, that's the best thing you can do. The fucking least you can do. The most honest thing. Express yourself as freely and authentically as you can. Don't resist it. Be fucking mad. Be mad at Connor for having gotten ahead of you on "the spiritual journey". Be mad at me for being an arrogant prick towards you right now. Be fucking honest with yourself. Honesty is the least you can practice. I honestly haven't read a more dishonest post -- than this one of yours -- on this forum since I joined. At least be fucking honest with yourself, brother. Much Love <3

Haha how did I know you would assume such a thing in defence of him ? Firstly, I never insinuated that I am above him or look down upon him. No one is above nor below anyone. Hierarchies in this work are delusional. You have superimposed this as an opinion. No that is not an accurate assessment. You’ve made an extremely naive assumption in stating that. I’ve never really been fond of Conners work. He always embellished egocentricity and pig headedness when it came to the fitness lifestyle. It was more about the “looks” and it’s perks than the investment factors that underlined it. I was in it for the development of health, weight gain and euphoria of exercise. He completely adorned the superficiality of the gym lifestyle, which I found to be demonstrably depreciate it. And now he assumes he is single handedly “awakened” having been deluded for a copious number of years. His fooling himself. I doubt your assertions on the matter. My estimation is that he is stuck in the territory of self-concept and ego, through which his rants are taking place and subduing others. Hence, his dualistic rants and pontificating. Be open to such a possibility that he may not be what you’ve so recently assumed he is, which from the mounting evidence seems highly probable.

"Simply because, one does not awaken, awakening awakens to itself. " I like that, thank you. I agree very much. Good answer. ------------------------------------------------ So you were a gym/stage-orange/PUA-junkie (like Connor). But now you have moved pass that and are now spiritual (stage green/yellow/turquoise w/e). And now you "look down" on Connor -- your former "teacher", who you then saw to ultimately be a noob (spiritually talking). Seems like classical psychological unconscious projection to me =D "Awakening is not an instant bypass, it requires meticulous and arduous embodiment. Far more than that of a single mystical experience." I agree. But could it be that Connor -- like you have -- have actually been interested in awakening/spirituality for +3 years and that he just recently (1-2 months ago) got a "breakthrough" ? ... ...And that you for some unconscious reasons simply cannot be open to that possiblity? :-D Be open at least. As you say, what does "awakening" even mean?. There is no one here to awaken. Connor has not awakened obviously; Awakening has awakened to it self, as you say; this is always the case <3

@Jacobsrw sorry I have not read the whole thread, but may I ask, how come you have watched so many of Connors earlier stage-orange videos? (personally i have never heard of him until last month). also what does "awakening" mean to you? when are you truly awakened? are you awakened? <3

Hey there, Before I continue, I would like to point out that I have NOT experienced awakening yet. This information comes from watching many videos from Leo. Also, my state of confusion that lead to no drive/purpose/motivation is NOT blamed on Leo, but myself. I am actually very grateful for having stumbled upon this topic. However, to get to the point, Leo has stated many times that there is no self and that we are EVERYTHING (non-duality), the absolute you. I know I haven't experienced it yet, but if there's only one thing, who's controlling me right now? Who's typing right now...well, yes, Winny, but apparently I'm just a fiction, imaginary and that confuses me. This leads me to think "why bother?" What's the point of doing anything if there's no Winny? (Winny is my name btw :D) I script for my youtube videos every single day and I have a dream, but now I just ask myself "why bother?", I practice law of attraction, but now I say "why bother?". I'm having a more negative attitude towards life. I mean seriously, if there's no self, then who's doing everything? If there's no free will then I can just be lazy. There's also another video where Leo says that yes, even though there's no free will, you can still be productive...I'm just so confused by everything. There's no meaning to anything and if I want to pursue my dream or purpose, isn't that doing it for the ego? which apparently is imaginary because the ego is a part of Winny. I need your HELP! I really would like to have motivation again to pursue my dream or to do anything productive in general. It would be nice if I got an answer from someone who is awakened, to clarify this for me.

@Jacobsrw So if i unterstood you right, materialism and hedonism cannot go hand in hand with spiritual growth because it reinforces the self. So here is something to think about young boy: Connor had this spiritual growth preciesly because he had this materialism and hedonism too much. He even said in his last videos that this was the main reason he went into depression because this hedonism did not make him happy. So he was in a desperate situation, he had everything materialistic thing possible and he realized this will not make him happy at all, which gave him the spiritual growth he has right now. You see, hedonism and materalism can make you a very spiritual person in the end. The more he was invested in hedonism, the more it was clear how hollow this is and parallel his pursuing in spirituality awakened more and more

@JacobsrwAt least I can it more than you. You can do everything with consciousness, so even eating meat and enjoy life can therefore very spiritual. Think about it Another fact is, that not all your acting must be spiritual, lol I dont say he is awakened. But what you said, that his spiritual side is fake because he did not show it the videos before, that is what I want to show you that your conclusions could be wrong

@LfcCharlie4 Thank you very much. Ok, I think you are right with just theories confusing the heck out of me and that I should just start practicing, which I have btw, but I was just still too confused that I lacked the motivation and I had to get some answers from people who are awakened like you so thank you. One last thing though, if everything is just imaginary, don't you ever have the feeling of what's the point?

@Seraphim first of all, thank you very much. Second of all, have you already been awakened that you say this?

@Parththakkar12 I get what you're saying. Because I have a healthy relationship with a very close girlfriend, I can see what you're talking about. We meet give each other emotional support, if the other wants it. We love each other completely and without judgement. So this is what the Reiki master told me when I was gone. "Relationships are based on conditional love. Only you have the power to offer yourself unconditional love." I think unconditional love is the love that is absolutely needed. There's probably a percentage to gauge happiness out there. And I'm sure there is a portion that is reserved for conditional love, i.e. community, close friendships (I'm leaving romantic relationships out of this, for now) But from what I understand, unconditional love of the self is what should be focused on until you have put your thoughts (ego), in their rightful place. Any outside interference will make you lean too heavily on others. And @Elham I see this as a trend. Leo is introverted. However I feel he was introverted prior to awakening. Here are my thoughts that could be incorrect, but, I believe if you are truly awakened or enlightened or have successfully killed your ego, you would be neither, or you would be 50/50. Because if only the one that sees, exists, then you are fully living in the present. It wouldn't matter if you were around others or not around others. You would simply, be. You would not have a preference as to "I like being alone" or "I like to be within a loving community." I can't speak on where Leo is at or if he's still introverted. But his awakening should have taken care of introverted-ness. He may isolate himself more to explore deeper stages of consciousness or whatever drugs do, but I would hope if he was not working on his thoughts (ego), he would be fully comfortable in a room full of people.

One thing is I noticed: I feel like there has to be some 'spiritual handbook' or manual out there available underground to make a business out of spirituality, because when he became "awakened", his videos are exactly word for word describing enlightenment or awakening in an almost almost too good fashion. Almost came out sounding like Leo out the gates. Without prior investment in spirituality, how did he cough up all that info in a short amount of time without referring to something? I hope some of you see right through this facade because you might have to dive deeper into your spiritual work if you find this convincing or real lol.

Kundalini is said to be the evolutionary and transformative energy that can be awakened in a person via spiritual practice. In my experience, this healing energy works wonders, from being able to heal real, physical, tangible areas of the body to profound emotional change that can radically change a persons life. Im talking healing acne, back issues, hearing issues (in my experience), to truly allowing one to fully feel their emotions and heal them. Ive also recovered from disassociation from this. Awakening is fun and dandy, we get to see the truth and become one with god, realize we are god, but lets be really honest here, profound emotional and physical change and healing is huge and to the most suffering, broken people this would mean would mean the world for them to have this resource and healing. I have not done years and years of work and have integrated god consciousness and such, so i cant ENTIRELY speak for that, although with how broken i was, and how i see so much suffering i the world, and so many people with disorders such as schizophrenia, autism, and other disorders of the mind, i think this aspect of what im awakening to seems way more important and profound than inquiry for truth, as this is what will really transform people and the world. So why arent we talking about it more??

Aha! Notice that in the Ancient Egyptian picture in the previous post the snake is encircling the heart and the head. It could indicate that the ouroboros symbolizes awakened kundalini energy between the mind and the heart, not between the 7th and 1st chakras. There are also pictures of pharaohs from Ancient Egypt with cobras coming out of their foreheads. The claim is that the cobra represents authority: It's also interesting that the funeral mask of Tutankhamun has both a cobra and a vulture coming out of the forehead. Kundalini is often describes as two serpents coiled around the base of the spine. Wikipedia says: "the royal insignia of a cobra (Wadjet) and vulture (Nekhbet), symbolising Tutankhamun's rule of both Lower Egypt and Upper Egypt respectively." That may represent two different aspects of kundalini.

Love this! The power of flow and fluidity. It truly emanates in the throughout ones being so powerfully if they allow it to. Dancing is one such act I find fascinating. In some ways I see people being in their most awakened state when just mindlessly dancing. Had they known that the essence of life is a dance maybe they wouldn’t depend on a club in which to do it.

He is strongly deluded about what it's like to be awakened/enlightened

A lot of guld nuggets in this video. He's obviously awake. I can relate so much to everything he says. Full control over emotions. You can still be sad but it's a choice. It's beautiful. Acting is a spiritual quest. He talks about how many actors are enlightened, Jim Carrey is a good example, because they learn that during acting they actually become their role. And this is the same they've done all their life: acting and then becoming the person. But that's not who we are. Depressive vs expressive. Yes, depression is the opposite of fully expressing yourself. "no-brainer" = "enligthenment". Yes the brain is a limiter. It narrows the Whole (Reality) to a narrowly defined "thing"; your survival is now all that matters. He talks about "What if your girlfriend broke up with you? Or you lost your job?" , would you still be happy? Would you have control over your emotions? The thing is: most people will be depressed and sad if they lose their dream job/dream GF/dream BF and there's nothing wrong with being sad/depressed, but here is what is "not-good": They don't WANT to feel sad/depressed while they are sad/depressed. And that's real unhappiness, when you resist your emotion. And why don't they want to feel sad/depressed after their loss? BECAUSE SOCIETY LOOKS DOWN UPON SAD PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAD, says society. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SMILE ALL THE TIME AND WORK THAT HAMSTER WHEEL 24/7 haha. See, if I lost my mom/dad/my dream job/dream GF w/e I'd probably also be sad. But I want to feel sad if that happens, I'm not the least in doubt. I want to. And I can be happy again anytime I want to. happiness and sadness is a duality. it's the same thing. It's all Happiness with big H (i.e. Love) as long as you don't resist. Enlightenment = No resistance / being in flow / free = being unlimited = being in-control = expressing yourself freely Being "normal" = resisting (in order to survive as a separate self) = tension in mind&body = being limited = being controlled by external things = not-being-in-control = being depressed Sadness is a beautiful emotion. Why are sad movies popular? It's beautiful, cos you can let go after you've watched it. Sadness is beautiful emotion if you realize its your own doing; that you in ACTUALITY can break free ANY TIME, you want to. But most people can't break free. And they can't break free, because they don't realize that it's something you can do. LOL Oh god. Great video, that's just why I wanted to share it in a post for itself on this beautiful forum. So how do you become Happy for good? You stop searching for it externally. And start looking inward to see who you are. When you find out who you are / what you have left out all your live up until now, your prior false self will be shattered, and you can now be anyone you want (which is the "state" of the true self: <nothingness/everythingness/God/Love/Consciousness/The Acting Self Always In Full Control>. You can be sad, you can be happy. You realize you're fully in control, and the most stunning part: that you've always been. Prior to awakening you were just pretending not-to-be-in-control. hehe;) You were (are, if you are not awakened) pretending to be a 'poor little me', swayed by external conditions. A victim. Either you believe you are on parole, with God up in the sky looking after you (religious people), or you believe you are just an accident. A biological accident that happened in a universe that is basically a cold, unintelligent machine with no deeper meaning, no finer emotions, no purpose, no love, no intelligence. (atheists/ hardcore scientific-minded ppl). Haha. What's up all pretenders on this forum. When are you gonna let go and stop pretending to not be in control?:D Stop pretending = letting go = not resisting <3 Could you at least pretend to let go of the "reality is a cold machine"-myth and try, just TRY, to imagine yourself to be believing in this myth: The Universe is playful. It's Intelligent. Reality is warm, filled with emotions, filled with purpose. Who's filling it up with play, act, intelligence, warmth, emotions, and meaning? ........... YOU. You. You. You. God. You are God. It's all your doing. If you want reality/the universe to be a story of a God-creator in the sky looking after his children to behave well, then that's what it is. For you. If you want reality/the universe to be a story of a natural, physical, scientific, hard-coded, tough, rough, fully-automatic, cold, unintelligent machine made up of Natural Laws, where there just randomly, accidentally happened to be life on an otherwise lifeless rock floating around in dark space, then that's your story. Then you have to conquer nature and defeat it. That is what it's all about then. For you. But both these two myths (the religious & the fully-automatic-model) make you feel like a separate self. You see that? They re-nforce your concious/semi-unconscious deep belief that you are a separate human being isolated from everything else, living a temporary life, and that after that you will be death forever and ever in eternal darkness/nothingness. A separate isolated self that has to seek happiness externally during his/her limited life-span. Either from God in the sky -- salvation, by being "good" -- or from external, materialistic factors such as prestige, success, fame, money, social status, power, sex, food..., you name your addiction. But you see. No matter how much you try to be-good to please the Lord up in Heaven, or no matter how much success, sex and money you get, it will never make you really Happy. Why not? Because you still believe that you are a limited, separate 'self' living in a cruel world that will you no-good... You *KNOW* that you will eventually die and lose everything. And that makes you deeply depressed on the inside, whether you realize it or not. As long as you think of yourself as a temporary, separate self, you will constantly feel that you: lack "something". You will fear a lot. Regret a lot. You will be depressed by society/cultural norms/other people's opinion, because you always try to live up to their standards. But the only standard that matters is your own standard. Change your standard. Make the universe something that is intelligent. Buy into the acting-myth. That it's all a dream/act/game. And that you are the actor. That's a lot more fun than the fully-automatic and religious model, cos then you are eternal. You are just right now acting out one meta-characther, and after that characther has played its role, you will play a new one. You see? You are Divine, Eternal, Infinite, All-Powerful. You now see that it's all your dream. You are making it all function. It's all part of your play. It's all your doing. You feel CONNECTED. You are part of an intelligent dance. An intelligent play. The purpose is to see what we can imagine. How far out can we go? And how loving can we be? How powerful are our Divine Creative forces? What can we imagine? What can we do? Look at the past 10.000 years of human history. Look at all we have imagined, both "sad" and "beautiful" things. It's all play. It's all Creation. Your Creation. Of course just remember that you on purpose always choose to do something consciously and something unconsciously, simultaneously. If you did everything unconsciously, then that's equal to a deep sleep without dreams. That's where you go after you die. Until you wake up again:-) If you did everything consciously, you'd be nothing/everything/God. You see that? You can't listen to music, eat melon, beat the heart and shine the sun, all 4 things consciously, simultaneously. So you choose to do 2 things consciously: the music and the eating of the melon and then you do the sun-shining and the heart-beating unconsciously. :-) So even though everything is your doing, of course you will relatively speaking still be surprised when your conscious doings overlaps with the your unconscious doings, like the tree that might fall over your car tommorow, or how your loved one may get a sudden heart attack in 2 years, or how it's gonna rain like shit in 1 hour, or how you make an apple fall down from the tree while you read a book under it. By letting some things be done unconsciously, you can focus on something (i.e. make distinctions and thus manifest 'things'). That's what life is: a special type of focus. Your focus. Create. Express. Imagine. Love. <3 You see, if you could let go of all beliefs you have absorbed from the outside, what would be left? Pure experience. Pure being. Pure qualia. Raw conscious experience. And then you are free "to now put on" any myth you like. Will you choose the religious myth? The fully automatic machine-myth? Or the intelligent/play/act/dream-myth? See, all myths have their purpose. The religious myth was necessary for the evolution of ethics and "good behaviour"/good manners (a lot of harm came along too though, ofc). The fully automatic-machine myth/atheistic myth was necessary for the evolution of science and technology (which also brings good and bad things with it). Now we are in a unique position, us people who are living in the Western World. We have the comfy life now. We live in a democratic society where people mostly behave well, because they have been taught to behave well and because they can get food on the table everyday. And we got powerful technologies like the internet. So we can study anything we want. And we are all connected in a way we've never been before. And we can focus on what's behind everything. We can focus on ourselves, find out who we really are. And then when we have found that out: we can create our own myth and transform the planet. Make it a better place. Help ppl wake up. We need a new myth. A spiritual myth. A myth where all human people are seen as conscious souis who have chosen to live their human lives themselves (and for a deep mystical reason!). As divine beings, not just as "biological/cultural/ethnic human beings". As avatars of The Godhead. As "physical" vessels for love/imagination/infinity/God/Consciousness. The play/dream-myth, where you by buying into it slowly can start to see that it's all One. Oneness. Because it's all play (God's play), but it's play with a deep intelligent manuscript behind it. Your manuscript, not your ego's or the cultural/societal ego's manuscript, but: God's/Your's manuscript. Everything has meaning, purpose, because it's part of an intelligent plan. You start to see reality as something filled with meaning, intelligence, emotion and purpose and love. Then we can create a more loving society on Earth with less suffering, less pain, and more love, more creation for creation's sake. But also see, that there can only be "good things", i.e. happiness, good, beautiful, joy, surprise, laughter, love etc if we have something opposite to contrast it with: sadness, hate, bad, ugly etc. That's why life is not just from the get-go: paradise. If it were paradise from the get-go, it would not be paradise! Haha, you see? It would be nothing. "paradise" is only "real" if we also got its opposite: hell! You can't have hell without paradise, you can't have paradise without hell. Just like you can't have life without death and vice versa. And fundamentally all these relativistic dualities are one and the same thing: God/Love/Consciousness. We did it. To dream. For creation's sake. When you can transcend all perspectives and all dualities and let go of the dream, what you are left with is Paradise though. Paradise with a big P. Because you see it's all something you do. It's your garden of play. Of love. Of imagination. Of creation. You are now consciously in full control over all your emotions. Want to be sad? be sad. Want to be happy? be happy. Want to hate? hate. Want to love? love. Want to be bad? be bad. Want to be good? be good. Want to be beautiful? be beautiful. Want to fear? fear. Want to be at peace? be at peace. When you're fully awake, you are in absolute control and everything that happens to you is seen as your own doing, consciously or unconciously, doesn't matter, still your doing. and it is beautiful and you want to be Loving towards everyone and everything with a big L, cos how can you not Love yourself?????? <3 Create. Express. Imagine. Love. <3

@DreamScape So your kundalini awakening was not difficult ? I have read many story of people having traumatic experiences when their kundalini awakened, that now I have sometimes a small fear that popes up in my mind when I am having a strong experience. I would like to know if only some people have it rough or most people Also have you some experience with psychedelics ? I am curious to know if it changes things in that regard after the kundalini awakening.

You said that you are awakened but since you trivialize everything, from my perspective you are nothing but a lazy arrogant ass talking about things that you cannot comprehend yet. And don't tell me about Truth because it wipes its ass with you as a toilet paper. Enjoy the matrix ?

Hello brother. I'm happy on your behalf to hear that you too have awakened. Yes, I like your wording. We are still infants. However, I must say I already feel pretty much like a grown-up capable of enjoying and watering this beautiful garden of God (i.e. my garden), we normally call life. I have to say, my integration is going pretty smooth. Dno why. Always in the past, after trips, I have found integration very, very difficult. Especially after my Ayahuasca-trips. It took time. Now it just seems to happen without me doing anything. Of course me writing a lot on this forum is how I sort of integrate it a bit. But I don't even -- most of the time -- feel like it's me writing these messages. It just happens. I follow you 100%. My thirst for life is infinite/unlimited, right now, it seems. It's sort of scary to have so much "creative force" inside you, and so much freedom. The world is literally at my feet and it is OF COURSE beautiful beyond beautiful... but also a bit "wauww-let's-just-relax-for-a-bit-shall-we":-)

The issue about self and others (especially regarding boundaries) has been a kind of a motif of my life, so I appreciate the topic. I've been thinking about if Ken Wilber's pre-personal-trans logic can be utilized in these issues to pinpoint your own stage. Especially pre-trans fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#Pre/trans_fallacy), where spiritually awakened people are mixed up and mix themselves up with conventionally religious people. In this case, I've been thinking about people who are selfless because of harsh childhood conditioning, and they push their own needs to the shadow and never issue them. They feel like they are the most developed people for doing this, even though they actually are at the lowest rank. When people integrate and transcend (not spiritually bypass and shove it to the shadow!) their selfish needs, they evolve up to the highest level: genuinely selfless stage.