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I believe in synchronicity, being in flow with reality. Telepathy is available in dreams at night, you communicate in your dreams not through words, but telepathicly, because its all you. Now consciousness however is on another level. Its our essential nature, but its not a personal self, its quite impersonal allowing the personal to exist within it. I've had a spiritual experience during Covid where there was a hive mind, collective, trying to suck me in, but I was battling for my own mind's privacy. Consciousness is not a hive mind, privacy is absolutely important for creation. I think i kicked those hive mind entities butts during the spiritual experience. They wanted to play Simon says do as I say, but Simone says respect my privacy. Victor: I made consciousness Woman: Don't be silly, Victor, consciousness made you.

We are all one zero. Consciousness is impersonal. Solipsism fails because you say "My consciousness is all there is". Your experience is relative, impersonal universal zero- consciousness is absolute, no one relative individual owns it. It shines through all of us. You can’t telepathically access others because consciousness isn’t a network of connected individuals, it’s the single field appearing as individuals. The separateness is part of the show, not a flaw in it. Awareness is "one zero": it’s one because nothing stands outside it, and zero because it has no personal center and is space-like (empty)

To realize what Reality is and what my true being is, 15 years+ after starting with a Mahamudra and Dzogchen based practices similiar to Pointing out the Great Way. Before that, some years of Zen-like meditation, but that would not have led anywhere I guess (not efficient enough, at least not for me. Too much brute force effort required). So nowadays I am enjoying the bliss that comes along the release of the ever-grasping self-contraction/ego-illusion and effortless in True boundless nondual impersonal Being, getting rid of the remaining "character-hangovers" (Chat-GPT: "The lingering emotional or mental effects you feel after being deeply immersed in a fictional character or story.")... Ask my wife . And somtimes I wonder why some chase their own merely appearing and temporary (Alien-,x/y/z) tails in a grasping way (wanting x/y/z Awakenings or else suffering/contracting/grasping), which is exactly is the opposite of getting rid of the remaining lenses/filters by resting for really long periods of time in choiceless Awareness, which would make true Enlightenment possible. And propagate the tail-chasing as superior. Mayas illusions and cul-de-sacs, all the way of the path.... So, Godspeed by the River

This shit sucks, it's brutal. It's impersonal and doesn't see anyone. There's nothing personal about THIS. That heart beating in your chest is just a heart beating. It might seem to be yours and what's keeping you alive but it's not. It's just a heart seeming to beat in your body that's your heart and body. It's not. It fucking isn't. It just fucking isn't. Has nothing to do with you.

Well yes, that is kind of the crux of the matter. Because it is all of those. It is Impersonal Flow and yet also intimately loving and wanting to experience full of eros. So there are aspects/facets. And some of them are higher/purer. Like God is also unconsciouss materialist or christian fundamentalist. The Deceiver. The Lover. The Emptiness. The Truth. Etc. And I kind of wonder whether he is more of a Lover/BDSMer or a Self-Deceiver lost in it's own thoughts. Or rather I want to understand the mechanichs of how those different archetypes flow/relate. I don't know. It is a hard question to even articulate lol. Much love to you too

@Arthogaan I understand .what I meant is these kinds of questions don't usually have an end game . Because your notion of God is too loaded with anthropomorphizing God. Make up your mind Whether God is conscious agent who does things with intention and free will or just unbiased impersonal inevitable infinite flow of everything that is possible. Much love brother .deep inquiry.

We don't claim the mountains to be ours, we don't claim the ocean, the clouds, the rain the volcano to be ours. We don't claim the neighbor's dog to be ours, we don't claim that other person's body to be ours, we don't claim......and I can list to infinity, but why not, we claim passing happiness to be ours, passing suffering and impersonal joy and pain to be ours. We practice neti neti and self inquiry that says we are not the body/mind/thoughts but all of a sudden we want to own happiness, suffering, sadness, joy, bliss, even competence, confidence and every other impersonal adjective and emotion that's just minding it's business and being itself. It's my happiness, my suffering, my anger, my depression, my joy, my love, my hate, my this and my that but that's your dog.

Why this interest in the occultism? You can get only opinions and have to decide on your own if it is legit or not. Modern day Occultism is usually associated with witchcraft and black magic. But when the term came to light it was synonym with esoteric. Occultism means hidden. Exoteric is for the masses and esoteric is for the elect. Some practices/knowledge are not meant for the ego-human to have. As the ego will most likely use it for selfish gain. Selfish=black, unselfish=white. Magic = the use of spiritual/fpsychic/mental forces. Now if there is even a small self interest in the use of magic then it will automatically be black magic. So i could bless my enemies, not to humble them for my benefit, but from the knowing that they are the impersonal Self. Now I know enough of my own egoic trickery so wouldn't do that, there is always some sort of selfishsness underneat my intentions. That is why i avoid any kind of "magic", to avoid unnecessary stuff to myself/others. Obviously you didn't ask for the definition for occultism/black magic. Whether it is fake or not? It is fake spirituality. In a sense that it takes away from realizing your Self, inwhich is the bullseye of everything spiritual. If it is black magic, then maybe it can acttually take you "further" apart from the Self. Is there magic in masonry? I dont know. Haven't studied it. They maybe get connections and a community from it. Dont know if they need magic. But what would an actual black magician do with freemasonry? The magician would infiltrate the society at its beginning. Hide the spiritual knowledge by creating degrees of initation, promising more knowledge at every level, maybe sprinkling some of its true doctrines but hiding the best stuff away forever, adding meaningless rituals etc. A black magician is attracted to the light of spirituality as a moth is to light. They infiltrate and blow fairy dust in the seekers eyes. Hidding the truth, ego on steroids. The definitions above are theoretical and over a century old. There are modern definitions, but i believe they have been created by modern selfish-egos. As i go by these rules, i do not touch upon any of this stuff, as i am somewhat aware of the depth of my selfishness. I could go describe how nerves of nature/centers of energy react to thoughts but it is meaningless. As far as i am concerned it is bogus for me at the moment, and you can believe that i just took all these words from my behind. Advice: Be present in the eternal Now.

Life feeds on drama. Doesn't matter how evil you are, how controversial, hold anti-human beliefs, hatred for certain sectors of humanity, spew out racism, prejudice and promote war you will get the attention you crave. People don't fight for what they are for but what they are against. People don't focus on things that are doing well, they focus on things that are doing bad. One example of this is the Charlie Kirk thread. More power to that beast and keeping his name alive and legacy lived on by people who hated what he stood for. This is what humanity does and why people like him will continue to do what they do because they'll always get attention for it and any attention is better than none. That thread has 75,000 views in the space of 11 days. That alone should tell you something and it's still counting and going strong. So many people out there trying to do good for humanity and they go unnoticed and taken over by the ones who couldn't care less, this includes the Donald. Look how popular he is. I lost faith in the system a long time ago. There's nothing to fight for anymore only to realize life is impersonal and can go either way.

This is utterly and totally impersonal. Nothing is happening to, for against, about and witnessed by anyone. It is totally magical but not for the sense that observes itself. It's observing itself being itself and is totally oblivious to the fact that it's a mirage. Once this has totally collapsed and is seen by the seeing energy, that energy will have a total existential crises within itself. All illusion.

You cannot read up about God, learn about God, realize God, study God, prepare for God, practice God and turn God into a process. There is no God, just what's simply appearing. What energy is being, including it's silly notion of worshipping itself and trying to realize itself. Call energy God if you like because that's all God is, energy. It's happening in "real time", timelessly. It's fucking raw and unfiltered boundless and impersonal and it's immediate, meaning there's no space between anything. The reading up of God and the studying of God is also God, so this is not a teaching to say one must stop reading up on God or study God because that's also God/energy.

I feel so bad to see the delusion of equating awakening/enlightenment as supposing to bring happiness and bliss. People invent all sorts of ideas to try to feel better about this impersonal existence. Trying to cope, to have something to look forward to, hope, something other than this. This can seem like a horrible place yes, if there's someone seeming to witness it. Life isn't horrible to life, it just is and with all of the monstrosities and all. It can feel terrible, that sense of self, the sense of a separate human being that lives in a world that needs to be protected and fights to feel safe. It doesn't feel good. Feeling like one has their back up against the wall will make that individual resort to many things and humanity has faced this over and over again and has systematically constructed all sorts of things to overcome this feeling including enlightenment and awakening. When you see how the word happiness is usually used in the same sentences when speaking about liberation it's so obvious why these terms including many others were invented - to feel better about their existence. Everywhere you turn it's all about trying to feel happy, why is that?

Yes, an absolute is absolute - but do we really grasp that as itself? Or is it merely intellect? Either way, this is the problem of conflating these domains. A thing gets to exist thanks to its being limited. So when you say something like my hand, that's a particular, and this is what we call relative. Your toes aren't a cup, or a cat, or joy - they're that particular thing. Otherwise, there would be no need to distinguish it from what it is not. So here's a new thought: We live in the relative. The relative is everything. Everything you experience is relative. A thing exists in relation to what is not that thing. And then we have the so-called absolute as a possibility for us to realize. Perceiving may well be impersonal, so the fact that it occurs shouldn't be extrapolated into some observer lurking behind it. We could take a deeper approach here, but with this medium it is tricky. What is experience? What is self?

No, this is an illogical contradiction. Infinity is all; therefore, it is all. All exists. It’s really not much “deeper” than that, but experientially, it’s overwhelming haha. When Leo or we say “God must experience,” it’s just semantics; you can define it better. You have a set of all 10 numbers. That must mean 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 are included, and they must be. If they weren’t, then the set “all 10 numbers” wouldn’t be a set of all 10 numbers. The same goes for infinity. Infinity means it has all, therefore freedom and restriction, horrors and goodness, self and lack of it, etc. If infinity couldn’t contain horrors or wouldn’t want them, then it would be limited by that, and it wouldn’t be infinite or free. (Again, when I say these human things like “want to” or “experience this,” it’s anthropomorphizing infinity.) Infinity is much more “impersonal” in that way. You can think of it more as a necessity or tautology. That’s really it!

Even when I don't say this in a specific statement like the one responding to the OP, I'll be accused of saying it then, even if my remark didn't. I don't recall in my response saying, "nothing is happening and there's no one here". I recall saying nothing is personal and that there's no one in these bodies. It's quite obvious if you take the me out the picture. So obvious. If there was a person inside that body that made that post crying out for help and advice on how to deal with torture, it would fucking know exactly how to deal with the feelings that emerged. Asking advice upon advice plagues the world and people clueless about themselves and you still there's a person in these bodies that have autonomy and free will but yet keep asking others what to do about their existence. No one is in there PERIOD. It's just a bunch of ideas, stories, programs and it's all mechanical. We're like robots except robots didn't come out of a pussy or a stomach. They were borne another way that seems more impersonal and so we can't see the similarities and we're very arrogant creatures.

Doesn't matter. Youre assuming I don't feel pain and feel like a human. You're assuming I'm saying I'm a dead weight that doesn't have feelings. You're assuming that I've never had things happen to me and how I was la-de-la-da about shit. You don't know what my experience has been like. You don't know what this body has gone and been through. You think I'm just speaking like an Absolutist and going off of non-duality bullshit. Let me tell you something, you have no idea so don't tell me UNTIL IT HAS FUCKING HAPPENED TO ME. You didn't even ask me first if it has happened to me but you're saying until.....this is how I know you're just emotionally responding. Responding to who you don't know other than some forum talk. I haven't been tortured, no, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is I have a deep understanding of what's going on here and I'm not going to fucking butter it up to suit human fucking ego like yours who just wants to feel good and be in bliss all the time. Life doesn't work that way. You're a delusional energetic structure that is part of the whole yes, but that's what makes you delusional, you have no idea who or what you are, and you want to PROJECT that unto "others". I won't let you or others drag me down into the pot of boiling water with your delusions and spiritual fantasies. Nothing specific has to happen to me for me to recognize or realize certain things. If your best argument against truth is "until it happens to you", then truth is not what you fucking seek. It's to feel, better about the impersonal experience you're having and resisting what is to soothe that miserable dis-eased egoic structure wrapped around that tightly constricted and contracted energy that is so tightly woven together it cannot free itself be cause it's too wrapped up into what it thinks it is - someone with a life that lives in a universe people and that needs to change itself and the world so it can feel good about it's non-existence and illusory nature called a fucking self. Go away and let me be. I'm not with your stupid clan of arrogant and narcissistic, delusional, neurotic clan of humans that cannot take a little suffering and always searching for some feel-good chemical to soothe that crying baby syndrome you all have because you think the world was made for you and your family to be comfortable in and be happy all the time. Life doesn't see you and your silly human games of "I wanna feel good", so go away with that and let me be in my impersonhood and take whatever life is throwing my way because I'm 'awakened' enough to realize it's not about me because I'm just imagining my personhood and I'm OK with it. It's not personal.

@Princess Arabia Remember Your words if it is ever happening to You, hopefully it never does.. This is the problem with the Absolutist such as Yourself, everything is impersonal because nothing exists, until it happens to You then everything is personal.. This is no good on the spiritual or non dual or path you describe as then the person which does exist doesn't deal with where they are right now, Blissful on the beach or being Tortured as in the end everything is Personal, hence why You will reply!

It's funny. We are playing this game and yet I know you. I have watched you over the years. And you are the very best at discerning the Absolute vs the relative. And you know that the Absolute is literally no self and no other. So why is Solipsism something different then that? Because no self or other is impersonal? Is Absolute Mind or God impersonal? You bet it is. But it's also extremely paradoxical and personal. It is sentient. And it is omniscient. And it can love. The problem God has is it just realizes it is absolutely alone. All other collapses into God. You. And you are left- sentient - alone. But that's OK. Because tomorrow you will dream again

Why does someone need to change their smoking habit or any other habit. Says you. Life is impersonal. The man was right. You're also attached to your ideas about the life and the world. One says smoke another says don't, both are attachments. No judgement either way is neutrality. That's natural.

Letting go ≠ getting rid of. If you drop a bag of bricks it will fall to the ground, but it is still going to be there. So, just let the anger be there. Don't resist it. Feel it fully. Feel it in all of its raw, amazing, ineffable power. Don't look at it as something that "shouldn't be there"; rather perceive it as an impersonal force of nature that is simply rising to the surface and discharging itself in the present moment, like an electric current that is flowing through your body. It only gets stuck in your body (and your mind) when you try to repress it; if on the other hand you just let it be there, allow it to wash over you and discharge itself, it will eventually run its course and fade away. Does this mean that you need to act on it? No, it doesn't. This is where the art of nondoership comes into play... just feel whatever you feel and stay as outwardly calm as possible in the situation. Express whatever needs to be expressed, but do it in a way that is constructive rather than destructive. Easier said than done? You bet your ass it is. But life just wouldn't be fun without some epic challenges. Good luck.

I also for 5yrs straight, once a year, serviced the Police convention when they came into town. Yes, these were police officers and sergeants. They had a convention every year and for 5yrs they asked me to come back and entertained them. Won't get into the details but it was a party-type situation with booze and liquor in the main room and they all had their own private separate rooms. The main room even had female police officers and judges. They had strippers in the main room for entertainment for like an hour and then I would mingle with them all and stayed till dawn and did whatever. Made like $4,000 one three night trip. Never had intercourse. Teacher's conventions too, fire fighter's conventions, insurance agents conventions, boat shows, wine and beer tasting shows, all types of conventions plus just regular type dates with regular men and even couples doing anything under the sun; different strokes for different folks. So, saying you're an escort or working girl doesn't necessarily equate to a man cumming in some pussy. I had more sex non-working than I did working. Matter of fact, that's why I hooked up on the side because I wasn't having sex and it felt impersonal. The regular guys, only two or three of them for the duration, compensated for intimacy. They all knew what I did, I even lived with one for a few years and no, they weren't pimps. None of that here. I'm just showing how just mentioning escort is just not enough to firm an opinion about this work. It depends on the type of escort and the kind of work involved.

The I that suffers will always knowingly suffer. There’s no escape from suffering, regardless of what James says to the contrary. It’s really okay to suffer, and doesn’t make you any less enlightened. When suffering is recognised to be impersonal, that’s liberation from the false idea it’s personal, that’s all. The knower of suffering is also the known suffering in the exact same instance of knowing. One with the knowing. As knower and known is one thing. Just as there’s no smoke without fire, the smoke is not the fire, so the smoke can only be known to be what it is because the source of the smoke (fire) is known too.

Def agree when it comes to personal relations. In the impersonal sphere, it's each man for himself. If I can get a leg up, I will. There are no friends in business.

@Xonas Pitfall I see what you mean. One thing to take note of is that, if you ask men this question, they'll tell you what they fantasize about that evokes a sexual response because that is what a single man consciously values. But they won't (because mostly they can't) tell you what they really respond to when they fall in love with a woman and want to have a longterm relationship. The conscious agenda of a single man is one of casting the net far and wide... and it's quite impersonal. So, they're going to give you fairly shallow answers if you ask "What are men attracted to?" because men are attracted to fairly surface level things at the outset. But men don't fall in love with what they're attracted to. If you've ever watched porn, that's the level of depth with which they respond to things like tits and ass. It doesn't have a real deep emotional effect on the man, such that it works to bring him closer. What a man responds to in a deeper way is Feminine energy, which in practice means... A woman leaning back into her Feminine energy and giving him space to pursue and woo her A woman being in touch with her feelings without an agenda to manipulate A woman enjoying herself and having fun A woman being open and vulnerable and soft A woman listening and giving space for him to also be a bit vulnerable A woman caring for herself and pouring her energy into herself A woman allowing him to help and feel needed A woman appreciating what she enjoys about him or the things he does But none of these are a way to get a man to be attracted or fall in love. They are not tactics for getting a man, but a way of existing as a woman who wants to experience the joys of the Feminine. But they are also things that happen to create a space for a man that a man desperately longs for. Man-world can be cold and mean. So, men tend to really crave for the softness of the Feminine. So, "How to attract a man?" is not the most effective question to ask. To answer that, it's just to be a woman and to realize that you don't need to do anything at all. But it is in you operating without agenda and just doing what you please that will be magnetic. That's why I said to never try to attract a man. The right man will already be attracted without you trying to attract him. But to deepen the connection and to help him open his heart, just focus on treating yourself like your own beloved and sit comfortably in your Feminine energy... in touch with your feelings and receptive to enjoyment and delight.

Exactly! They don't increase, but reduce brain activity and by this throttle down (and in the case of 5-MEO kill) your mind (with a small m) , and by doing that you get access to broader consciousness ( impersonal one). In the case of 5-MEO your mind (with a small m) is completely shut down and you become Mind (capital M). By this mechanism you get information which seems to be not yours on high doses of LSD (from the Collective Unconscious) or to become God on 5-MEO. The mechanism by which this is happening is a weakening of the Ego or complete destruction (like 5-MEO does) - things which will show up on a CT-scan as a decrease of brain activity. Everything is consciousness in the end, our personal minds are just delimitations in that consciousness and psychedelics are making the borders between personal and impersonal more transparent (disolving them completely in the case of 5-MEO). Ma