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There are no true or false statements. There are only statements, when you add a description, you add a belief. True or false is just a belief.
2 itself is 1 in its nature because it is not 1 and 1. Haven't you realized this Truth yet?
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I don't trust that. But also it doesn't matter.
Super Mario World was written in "6502 assembly". Does it mean that this programming language is the Truth?
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12 minutes ago, Dodo said:How do you know I am lost in the matrix, I might also be in the matrix to take people (you) out lol
If language is a collective nonsense and the only way you can communicate it is language, then by your own definition you are talking nonsense.
You can't say that all language is nonsense, because this sentence defeats itself.
Yes, only logically. But what if there's something beyond logic? A strange loop, for example.
All language is a collective agreement, not Truth, including my statement(s).
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On Saturday, June 09, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Truth Addict said:First of all, I'm not saying that mathematics is wrong or bad or anything like that, I'm here to make some things clear about it.
And no, I can use language to tell you that language is a collective nonsense. I can use meaning to tell you that meaning is meaningless. I can enter the matrix to get you out of it.
In fact, I need to, it's the only way, sometimes paradox is inevitable.
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But if you're here to win, then you win. I wouldn't mind.
Have a nice day/night, whatever. ?
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@Leo Gura Now I get a sense of how hard your job is. Delivering insights is not easy as I imagined it to be. Respect Leo! Really.
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It's intelligent. Just like it exists.
Non-intelligence (illusion) is just a concept that occurs within infinite intelligence (Truth). Just like non-existence (illusion) is just a concept that occurs within existence (Truth).
It's intelligent in its design. That's why it's here, that's why it exists. Because otherwise it won't.
Randomness will never ever make such complicated, delicious, and beautiful design (as materialism assumes). Same goes for non-intelligence. Therefore it's infinitely intelligent.
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1 hour ago, Mikael89 said:"The laws of mathematics, having relation to the real world, are unreliable and robust mathematical laws are not relevant to the real world."
"Do not worry about your difficulties in mathematics, I assure you that mine are greater."
"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."
- Albert Einstein
Thank you ?
Definitely Einstein got it. Otherwise he would have been some typical "nerd" or maybe a "philosophical zombie".
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1 hour ago, QandC said:Haha this is funny
Synchronize because I wrote this in the new book I'm currently writing (before I saw this post).
In all essence, mathematics is a collective agreement. We add a meta-belief to that "1" + "1" = 2. That's all science really is, a collective agreement, a language. Not Truth.
Thank you ? you just gave the brief for the whole post: "A collective agreement, a language, Not Truth"
I lost hope for a minute, cuz it's so obvious, it can't be unseen. Still it's hard for some people to see it.
And I would like to read your book when it's done if you don't mind ?
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You're wrong, you're still stuck in your mind. Do some inquiry, it'll help a lot.
I wasn't talking about units, it's totally irrelevant for my claims.
2 is a human convention. We call it 2 cats when 1 cat is next to another 1 cat. 3 is the same, we call it 3 cats when 1 cat is next to another 1 cat and another 1 cat. Same thing for 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,etc... We agreed to do so, consciously or unconsciously. Are you aware of this? Mathematics is only happening in your mind.
In the real world though, objects don't have digital values. Values are mind-made.
There is only one, everything is one. You just can't see it yet.
Remember the orange juice example? It's exactly the same with cats and with everything else. You can't combine 1 orange juice with another 1 orange juice and get 2 orange juices. You will always and only get 1 orange juice. Get out of your mind a little bit and examine the real world. This is a real-life exercise, not some intellectual mind storming.
For practical purposes, we agreed to use abbreviations for everything. We abbreviate "1 cat and 1 cat and 1 cat" with the symbol "3 cats". See, it's a mind game. Exactly like language, we call that annoying creature clawing on your curtains a CAT. We can call it anything else. Is the word CAT a real CAT? of course not. Same thing goes for mathematics. Is the number 2 two objects? Of course not. It points to 1 and 1 objects, but it itself is just 1 object. Become conscious of this fact or don't. It's blindly obvious. 2 cats is an abbreviation for 1 cat + 1 cat, no more no less.
I'm not going to discuss anymore. You need to become conscious of this Truth directly, or you'll stay stuck in illusion.
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2 hours ago, Quanty said:Does not work that way. That is the illusion of reincarnation. In the highest degree of reality, you go on the path of enlightenment/immortality and reconsolidate the ego, or you decide to die and never reconquer the ego you had.
Thank you.
2 hours ago, Arman said:*cracks knuckles*
another lifetime pwnin noobs
*Background music: burn it to the ground* ?
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5 hours ago, pluto said:Much deeper sight is needed my friend to see that for what it really is. The funny thing is, it is of most simpleness.
Then again Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication in itself
Yeah, whatever.
5 hours ago, Bane said:1 + 1 = 2
Fuck off!
3 hours ago, Rinne said:One plus one equals two, yeah you're right
Of course.
2 hours ago, Quanty said:1+1=3 in the highest degree of reality.
Yeah, whatever.
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18 minutes ago, pluto said:1+1 is also 3
Surrealism.
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17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Of course the whole trick to mathematics is who to define the 1, and every definition is permissable.
You can say a carton of eggs is 1, or a dozen, a trillion trillion atoms.
Mathematics is a projection of the mind. It's about where your mind chooses to draw the boundaries.
Also, interestingly: 1 infinity - 1 infinity = 1 infinity.
Infinity contains an infinite number of infinities inside it!
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I actually removed many points from the post before posting it because otherwise it would be very long and maybe hard to understand.
One of these ideas is: 1>1 and 1<1 because 1 contains everything including itself, which ultimately creates infinite number of infinities.
I still wonder how couldn't I see it before? It's so obvious!
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5 minutes ago, blazed said:Heres another option to add:
Lmao, there are infinite options tbh, select cancel for more options. ?
1 minute ago, Azza said:Good to see some nerds in here. Feels more like home :3
Welcome home. ??
2 minutes ago, Cammy said:That is one way of putting it!
Select cancel for more options. It's not the Truth though, just playing around.
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Sorry guys, been playing for ages ?
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My emotions were never better than now, and I'm almost a year in spirituality.
But in comparison, some other facets of my life deteriorated, of course due to me focusing too much on emotions (which I made huge progress on), and now I need to work harder to get back on my feet. Let's get to work!
Maybe I made a mistake, maybe I should have balanced between everything. However, I'm still happy and I don't reject it. ?
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3 hours ago, Salvijus said:Haha
I love this
1+1=1 because what is 1 is relative. 1 can mean a single atom or 1 can mean the whole universe.
If we stretch what you said further then 1+1= anything you want.
Yes exactly.
And actually 1 isn't even a thing, not even a concept, it's nothing and everything at the same time.
I kind of understand the whole thing but can't communicate it. Maybe the most accurate description is: a continuum of everything and nothing where everything is ultimately nothing and nothing is ultimately everything.
One contains everything. ?
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First of all, I'm not saying that mathematics is wrong or bad or anything like that, I'm here to make some things clear about it.
Also, I don't have any historical resources for my information below, I just assume that it happened the way I describe.
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So we start:
Have you ever happened to question mathematics? Especially this special and most obvious truth of (1+1=2).
If you did question it, you'd immediately see what's really going on.
So my claim, in brief, is that all mathematics is only concepts within the mind, it doesn't have anything to do with the Truth.
For the case I'm here to discuss (1+1=2), whatever object in reality, it doesn't have any digital value (1 or 2 or anything else), because it is itself, and nothing else.
Mathematicians and logicians are (or maybe just the human mind) very intelligent thinkers, they were able to create conceptual values for objects, so then they could use it to benefit practically.
This means that we agreed (unconsciously, but they did consciously) that every distinct object in reality has a value of 1 and if we have another object then we have another 1 etc...
Now what happened is very smart and interesting, as human societies started to get complicated and increased in numbers, etc... They needed to create something to help them with their trades, relationships, life, etc... to make them easier, so they started to use mathematics; they (and we as well) agreed that they could combine distinct objects intellectually, so they created the "plus" symbol and used it as a tool to combine the digital values that they created in the first place.
They agreed that they could code this process with language (mathematics), just like any other language, to help socialize and interact easier.
So, for example, if we have an orange, we say we have one orange, and if we have another orange we say we have two oranges instead of saying we have one plus one oranges. (One orange + one orange = two oranges) rather than (one orange + one orange = one orange + one orange). Notice how beneficial this is, symbolic abbreviations that help us consume less time, especially these days when we deal with millions and billions. Actually, we can't perform without mathematics, because without mathematics, if you wanted to say one hundred you would say one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one and one etc... to a hundred, think about a million then ?
You see, we created this conceptual framework to make life easier, and it does make it easier. The problem here is that we take it for granted, and we tend to forget how it initiated and evolved.
This is the whole show at play, it's only a human convention. Not the Truth. And that's why we can't prove it, because you can't prove what you construct (you can't prove that C + A + T = CAT because it's it by your own definition).
In reality, we can't combine stuff together, if we have one orange and another one, and we want to combine them together, we will ultimately get one orange. An easier example to explain this is if we take each orange and squeeze it then combine the juices together, we will only get one single juice not two separate juices. That's why the final result of any combination must be one number that has one value, not a single digit necessarily, but a single whole number (a unity) (37485836 is a single number or a unity, because it's not 37485835 + 1)... (CAT is a single unity, because it's not C + A + T).
This is a proof of the unity of everything. One contains everything.
1 + 1 = 1
And I'm done.
@Dodo (hope I made my claims clear to you).
@Leo Gura (just in case you haven't seen the post).
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Assuming that I want to quit my addiction(s) in the first place.
It's much more complicated than that.
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Actually 1+1 can't be 2. It's just a concept, in reality though, 1+1=1 because the process of combination implies oneness ultimately. You can't combine stuff and get something other than one, if you do get, then you're wrong.
"Happiness occurs, no one is happy" is mere dogma for me, I don't really understand this statement. But I like it, it sounds fancy. ?
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1 hour ago, sarapr said:I know what it says but excuse me if I can't trust it .
So, you're not talking about Islam, you're talking about your (and Sufi's) version of it.
But nevertheless, who would even try to distort that specific topic anyways? (I mean the oneness topic).
It doesn't benefit anyone on any level, why would they say Allah is different from us? Rather than He's us? Distorting this "fact" doesn't make any sense.
I don't know, you can be right, see this verse for example:
Allah is closer to us than ourselves! But he created us.
Maybe it's not something to be understood rationally. I don't know.
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No, it's just a statement and it's an illusion. All statements are pointers to the Truth one way or another. You know the Truth when you see all the illusions.