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Happiness = Surrendering (full acceptance)+ Ignorance (not-knowing)

@leintdav000 Hello, and welcome to the forum! If you want the ego backlash to turn into happiness, surrender to it and comfort yourself, observe it happening to you, observe all the details you can observe (consciousness method). If you want it to turn into success, prepare yourself with more discipline when not having the backlash. Train yourself to raise your baseline behaviours, and when the backlash comes, it will be less difficult for you to take back control (training method). If you want both happiness and success, well that's a hell of a job to do. But eventually, I think one will lead to the other, though it will take a lot of time.

@sgn To me, he seems to be coming from a loving place. He loves humanity and cares about the world too much, that he is against what he considers evil religious dogma, and is not open to it at all. He claims that he'd spent 10 years practising spiritually, I don't believe him, maybe he's lying out of love, but who really knows?

@DanTheLurker I'd do it for a friend that is worth it.

There is always something to talk about. And if there is none, that's just another topic to talk about. You just need more experience. Be the active side of the conversation. Create stories. People love stories. Watch some comedy movies and series, they will help you with your sense of humour. Watch some YouTube videos on this topic. Talk about your experiences. Be confident. Try not to be always precise. Leave room for error. Accept when someone corrects you. Always focus on the positive side. But don't ignore the negative, just make it feel less real, and give hope. Don't think too much of what you say. People usually don't think through everything you say, they just pick the vibe. Talk about how you feel. People usually appreciate feelings more than logic. Work on your body language. Be detached of the outcome, let the conversation be innocent and natural. Don't be afraid of anything, believe it or not, people don't usually underestimate you unless you give them a reason to. Notice how a cool person acts, learn from them, talk with them. Notice how a cool person can make a dumb topic very interesting, learn how to do so. These are some ideas for you, and you can pick what you feel is right for you. It's not a formula, practice makes perfect.

@tecladocasio @Shaun God created heaven for the believers, and hell for the unbelievers. Join his side and enter the paradise. I'm sorry for this religious language, but it's the most eloquent thing to say here. The things that you are afraid of losing, are not yours to begin with, they're God's. Your mom, your children, your body, your anything, they're all a blessing from God, but the ego is too greedy and ungrateful, and is selfish, and that's why it deserves hell, hell is your own creation. Again, I'm sorry for the religious language. Realise this, or keep suffering.

@Harikrishnan If you believe in yourself, you will do it. That's a simple law of life. And that's your life purpose you're talking about. It might take years of practice to master your life purpose, and then you'll have time to focus on other stuff. Don't think of philosophical stuff like free will, etc... Right now, if you are happy, you don't need to answer the big questions. Get your life stable, step by step. Financial security is key to your success. So cover that issue first, and then everything will be much easier.

@Harikrishnan I think it's more about what you really want. To the most successful people, they don't even think of their success as hard work and achievement, to them it comes out very naturally. They do what makes them fulfilled. They genuinely want the things that they get, and that's why they can go after them effortlessly. And also they have the discipline required to achieve what they want. So in conclusion: Mindfulness. Genuine interest and passion. Discipline and commitment. Focus. Will power. Big vision.

@Harikrishnan If you can become mindful at the level of minute, you can do whatever you want, you will be able to destroy mountains with one hand, and rub a girl's pu**y with the other hand, and all of it will be effortless.

@thesmileyone So, again this is something I understand. The whole God and devil analogy, I'm quite familiar with it. But I'm not going to pretend that I'm enlightened and that I am God like other people do. I'll just be honest and let the rest to be decided by God himself, I'll do what I can, and if God wants me to awaken that's perfect, if not, that is still good. I've learned how to enjoy my life, I've learned that less is more. Intellectually, I understand all that. I just don't feel it on a cellular level (not 100% sure). I prefer not-knowing than pretending to know. @FoxFoxFox According to Leo in his latest video, no-self is not the ultimate Truth.

Depends on the one who is aware of the layers

An enlightened master is like God. He can even cause enlightenment in the ignorant seekers, just by staring at them in the eye

@phllip103 Oh, I was mistaken. Okay, just watch the layers and ask why every layer exists. Don't worry, they will end, you just need to be more stubborn than them.

@FoxFoxFox I think what you're describing is an enlightenment experience, not the enlightenment itself. I want to embody enlightenment, and I want it to stick with me forever, I don't care what the experience is.

The burger that has so many layers. Isn't that what this thread was about?

@FoxFoxFox if I chase enlightenment for happiness, that would be the ego. I chase it because I am genuinely curious to know what this life is all about.

I've been through the eckhart phase. My life right now is worse than ever before in materialistic terms. Yet, I'm happy, truly happy. And I wouldn't trade my happiness for anything in the world, or even for the whole world. In fact, I would sell myself to buy more happiness. Tell this to someone who is in pain, and then experience some pain, and then repeat it again. Stop playing dead while you're still alive, the choice is really there. I will ?, and thank you for this great conversation

@FoxFoxFox @Aakash Sure, only death can end all suffering. As long as you are a human being with survival needs, you won't be able to maintain 100% happiness all the time. To me, 99% happiness is enough. I don't want enlightenment for happiness, I want it for God-realisation.

What if I already have it? Of course, I'm not claiming that I can survive the worst situations possible and stay happy, I wouldn't bet on that. But, right now, I'm as far from suffering as any human being could be, fully surrendered to what is. I'm aware of how suffering is created, and I can choose to either avoid it, or accept it. I've achieved happiness by letting go of happiness.

@Shaun The point is not to stop this process, language and symbol is an inherent quality of the human mind. Instead, look closely and keep your attention on the actual appearance of the letters, not on the meaning that is generated by the mind. A word is just an appearance, a pointer, a signboard on the road, that's all you need to realise. The meaning is generated by you.

Not to sound smart or anything, but from my experience, surrendering only produces happiness. I don't see how it can make me realise Truth, but anyway, I'll keep on inquiring and find out.

I watched both videos. I agree with everything Sadhguru said. It all makes sense to me, and I'm not skipping the obvious, I've thought through all that, and came up with the same conclusions. What you (not you in particular) don't see is that you've bought the idea that we can't know anything. I haven't bought it yet, maybe I can't know, but also maybe I can. Maybe belief is all I can know, but notice how people here rage wars against beliefs. I believe some stuff, and I'm aware that I believe them, stop assuming that I'm a total noob. I appreciate life and the beauty of it, in fact, I love spending a lot of time outside in nature. I've achieved happiness, I can stop thinking almost whenever I want, and if I fail I can surrender myself to it. My questions are beyond just happiness, they're about security, if possible. That's all.

What is?

@David Hammond I have no clue what you're going through in your life right now. But I understand you, because I've been there. I hope you find peace very soon.