Truth Addict

@Leo Gura Thank you Leo ❤️ It was all great until I read the word "enlightenment", and then the narrative tried to claim it, guess I'm not there yet. I actually became aware of that insight almost two or three months ago, Nahm helped me with it, but I keep forgetting. I also feel like enlightenment must be meaningless, because that is the gateless gate, it means that everything is meaningless including that insight itself. But even though I have realised that, it's still hard to disidentify from illusion. I mean the old conditioned mind does not melt away instantly with this realisation, even if I keep that insight in mind all the time, I can still get deluded, I can still trick myself. I realise now how powerful illusion is, and how my life is built upon illusion, because if I removed all of my illusions then my life would literally end. I can't get rid of all of my illusions even if I want to. I mean I even delude myself in order to eat food and drink water, let alone all the social conditioning. Again, thank you Leo for all the wonderful work you've done, life is getting better and more amazing everyday. @tsuki ❤️

@tsuki Thanks, although somehow you made things seem more complicated to me. I'm not much of a reader, maybe that's why. But really, I appreciate that you tried. ❤️

@Leo Gura Ahh, now I get it, thank you Leo ❤️ All we have is a territory without a map, we can't have a map without a territory. Illusion is included inside of Truth, there's nothing but the truth, but still delusion can happen by mistaking some part of the truth for some other parts. Delusion is just the misidentification of Truth.

❤️ I still don't quite get it. My avatar is saying that you can't point to the territory. It's impossible. A symbol is anything except the thing that it points to. A thing is just itself. Infinity is just infinity. A map is just a map. Etc...

Well, that's deep but I don't quite get it. Could you please explain it?

Yeah, that's exactly the point, (see my avatar). There's nothing but God.

If that's your experience, then that's your experience. You don't have to agree with others or be convinced of their experiences. Right now you feel that way, but maybe that feeling is not permanent after all. Just maybe.

Is a map the territory?

@Immortal peace Hang in there buddy, I've been there. I've had moments in my life where it seemed like there's no hope for me, and that I was lost, but I was patient until some miracle happened and fixed everything at once, I look back and still wonder how was that possible! But the bottom line is that it is possible, and now my life is milk and honey, and so will be yours. Don't lose hope, people have come back from even worse situations. Maybe you can find some work online, I don't know a lot about your situation, but there's always a way. ❤️

I don't exist.

Ahh, but what is a question? And what is an answer? What is "what" but a theory? ❤️

There's no everyone, there's only one, and it's you.

Could you please elaborate? I'm a bit confused. Because in my experience: real + deceptive = illusion.

@Leo Gura But sometimes life can leave you really stuck and paralysed that you have no other choice but to surrender and wait for some miracle to occur. It's not victim's thinking, sometimes it can really be the case, and patience is required. @Immortal peace Best of luck! I know it's hard, but it will pass, and my heart is with you ❤️

No one has a sense of ownership and doership but you. Right? If you trust what anyone says, isn't that an illusion? That's first. Second, question that sense of ownership and doership, is it really true? If not, isn't that an illusion? But basically we say that the ego is an illusion because it is not permanent.

@Immortal peace Personally, I find it very helpful to take everything to its conclusion. For example: okay, what happens if I don't have enough money? (some answers come up). Okay what happens if that happens? (some answers come up). Repeat until you get to the root of your fear, and then question the fear. Disclaimer: this game is dangerous, it's like gambling with your life, so be careful playing it.

Any kind of knowledge is basically an illusion done in some way to help you stay alive. You can definitely change how you use logic or science or anything to benefit your survival needs more or less.

@Florian Nothing can fix your problems unless they become real life problems. I mean why even trying to change anything at all if it's working fine for you? Right? You don't really want to change, because you don't really need to change. Instead, create a need to change, like having to wake up early to go to work, school or college, etc.. I don't know, you know. Or you can convince yourself to do something that is of no value to you, which in my experience, is the hardest thing ever.

Let's go back to basics, and not stake upon assumptions. Where exactly is this "I" located? Does it really exist? We can't, if that is your experience, then who are we to disprove it?

One (me) is an illusion when compared to many (other). But One (God) is the truth when compared to Nothing.

@Paul92 Breathe bro, just breathe deep. ❤️

@mandyjw Kind of your territory, what do you think?

Can fish swim?

@Aakash Embarrassed <= insecurity <= fear <= love. You don't love yourself enough. Elaborate?

@ShugendoRa Give your parents what they want, I guarantee that that alone will make you enlightened.