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@Nahm Just out of curiosity...are you going to believe my answer, or not believe my answer? ?? No, seriously. I'm up to something here.

Assume that I'm dumb, and please bear with me. Could you please give an example of how direct experience is real? I'm not trying to disagree or share perspectives. I'm trying to connect some dots.

How do you know?

@Inder If the ego does not have a free will, then whose will is all of this? Is it free or not? It's beyond freedom. It is aware of freedom and determinism. Nothing is even determined, it's already done. Immediately, if not before!

@Matt8800 I agree with your OP, except for that direct experience is real. Because when we usually talk about direct experience, we don't strip the interpretation out of it.

@outlandish Yes! It was accompanied by sleep paralysis, not together at the same time, but at the same period in my life, and the latter stopped probably one year earlier. It was also accompanied by strong fear of death.

@ThinAir Words can't explain. I don't know what it was. But it was not a nightmare, that's for sure.

@ThinAir I haven't done a psychedelic ever and haven't had any mystical experiences ever in my life. But I used to experience something similar to what you described in my sleep. The waves were like the violet music they use in movies for crucial scenes. It begins faint and from far, then it gets closer and stronger, and then it hits, one wave at a time, for however long it takes for them to go away. I don't know if this applies to your case, but I'll say it anyway: I tried many times to surrender to them, but I couldn't, until finally I did. It was horrifying, but I reminded myself of love, and it got me through. The waves kept coming and getting stronger, until finally they vanished, and peace remained. I have never had them ever since.

@tsuki Just transcend the mind already

There you go:

@Aethereus ??

I read the translation: My eyes are filled with tears right now.

Yes, but also keep in mind that not all people will encourage them. Some will be straightforward honest with them and hurt their ego with the truth, and some will be more gentle. So, after the dynamic works itself out and is done, to whom do they lean? To the ones who supported them, of course. Both tough love and soft love are required in order to grow perfectly. The intent is the most important factor, I believe. Now, after you get them to like you, they will become more accepting and will listen to you whatever you say.

For all of you who are arguing that Sadhguru is deep and meaningful for rejecting psychedelics. I think he's not. I think he's just serving some political agenda. Why is he so against them? Why is he so sure? Something seems fishy here. Authority abuse. He could have easily said that he doesn't know, and that he's not interested in them because they seem harmful. But no, he has to maintain something, an image of himself, or something else.

@Preetom I agree ? We're still learning how to express ourselves in healthy ways.

LOL. I can't even imagine how he looks like riding a motorcycle. ??? True. Much ego games. I'm sorry, I read it somewhere but never looked for evidence. Thank you for the clarification.

@Apparation of Jack Like @Preetom said, and I like to add that the context is here realising Truth, but debating distorts that intention. And my loud-mouthed uncle does not do any of that. LOL. He does some other things though. And @Preetom, I think that even screaming lunatically is good too. It's an expression of the Self after all, just like dancing and singing. It's a form of God expressing itself. The smart thing to do here is to make a room for such behaviours (organise them), because otherwise they will be stored in the body as trauma.

Oh! Come on! I'm not a materialist, but seriously, Come on!

Am I the only one who does not find solipsism an issue? So what? What does it mean to be alone? Everything will stay the same. Nothing will change. What is so horrifying about being alone? I think religion had this problem solved by saying that we are the same in substance (Source, Soul, God, Creator, etc...), and different in appearance. Be careful of your interpretation of non-duality. Thoughts are not to be trusted.

I don't even know what that means. I'm talking about religious debates in general, or basically any kind of debate.

@DrewNows I like this. It goes hand in hand with this: Yeah, the trick is to go all the way. Most people question very superficially without diving deep.

@bmcnicho I'm not a fan of locking threads. If I find something worth reading, I read it. If not, I ignore it. It's just that simple. On the other hand, most religious topics are controversial and can easily trigger the ego. Therefore, I think it's better to discuss religion only at tier two of Spiral Dynamics. I'm not saying that I agree with Leo's decision. I personally prefer letting thoughts run their course, and cause suffering, and then that suffering will create the desire for Truth. I'm just saying that it should be pointed out that most religious debates are mental masturbation and ego games as reminder. I believe that for extroverted people discussions help to raise awareness, and perhaps even create mystical experiences (as some members stated many times). And that for introverted people, alone inquiries are the best. That's why I think that almost no threads should be locked. @Inliytened1 Am I right with the bold statements?

Then you should have known that every single chapter 'sura' starts in the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful. What is that but love?

@Matt8800 The body produces 5-MeO-DMT naturally from the pineal gland. Some practices, such as dark room retreats, can alter its production. Becoming a unicorn is much more complex. LOL. @Devansh Saharan Thanks for sharing ? I think Sadhguru does not know what he's talking about. The Buddha had become enlightened under a tree (chemicals in the air). Moses had become enlightened when he went to the burning bush (smoking unintentionally, probably ayahuasca). What we must understand is that we are not separate from our environment. So, the "chemicals" argument becomes very silly, because we're being exposed to chemicals all the time (including food and water).

@Pacific Sage Some people are skeptics, and others are believers. It works both ways, because we are one. And actually, skepticism goes full circle to become faith. While also, as reality crushes beliefs, believers start becoming skeptical. Just like @SoonHei said.