Truth Addict

@DrewNows You're being locked in your paradigm buddy. You can't even see how you are placing your faith in some other belief system than the one you're criticising, because you view it as 'limited'. Your belief system is just as limited as the one you're criticising. With all the love and respect Andrew, apply your own advice if you want to break free. On the other hand, if you like belief systems, then that's also fine. Who said that understanding fear, suffering, etc... has better outcomes than a belief system? Your paradigm. Who said that seeking more wisdom is a must? Your paradigm. Who said that we should always try to look for the bigger picture? Your paradigm. Who said that the bigger picture has more value than the smaller picture? Your paradigm. None of those claims are true except from your frame of reference, which is based on experiencing stuff for oneself and not taking the words of others for granted. But again, who said that direct experience is superior to belief? Your paradigm. Welcome to strange-loopery! The endless maze that you've created and only you can help you out of it, only if you want to break free, of course.

When you tell anyone about the special states that God blesses you with, you will probably lose them. That means either a new possibility for higher states/clarity/understanding, or that you shouldn't talk about those states cuz it's a secret between you and God. Maybe both are true. I don't know. I'm in love with God.

I tend to agree with you. But it's actually harder to assess people who are on a high level of the spiral due to sophistication, nuance, and rarity. It doesn't matter where you are on tier two. Tier one does not count since they don't even acknowledge the existence of the spiral.

@Aaron p You're welcome bro

@Beginner Mind Minimalism helped me in finding space for sorting out the things that kept me stuck for so long. Resistance was one of them. Of course, it doesn't have to be permanent, just long enough so that you find that space that you need before moving on.

@DrewNows Of course, but I still don't understand why you think she must change her mind. And I don't understand at all what you're trying to say with the quote and the phrase right above it. I wouldn't say separation is what creates suffering. The word 'separation' has a lot of hidden metaphysics, it doesn't mean believing that God is a separate entity per se. Everything is not what it seems. Many people who yap about nonduality all the time are still living a dualistic life, and so they suffer tremendously due to inner conflict. On the contrary, some people believe in God as a higher supreme being and they surrender their ego/will/desires to It. Therefore, they don't experience any conflict or suffering. So, unless someone clearly shows suffering in a clear way, I think I shouldn't try to convince them of solutions (that they don't even believe they need).

@DrewNows Why must she? What will happen (to you, and to her) if she doesn't? "What creates suffering?" The short answer is inner conflict, which she does not seem to be having. Okay, I believe you.

@DrewNows I never said you said she should. I just asked "why?" because you told her to 'take off her spectacles' like there's something wrong with them. The answer might change my or her mind. She didn't say she is suffering. So, the apparent reality is no suffering. The assumption is suffering. The last one is the only real assumption. And to answer your question: "why assuming your suffering?" I don't know, maybe I'm projecting, maybe not.

One assumption. Just one. Your suffering.

This problem exists only in your paradigm. There isn't a problem, you're imagining it. No, it doesn't. You're trying to skip the natural course of evolution, which is contraction and expansion. You're just being a cancer in a form of a human being, expanding/growing at all costs (referring to your ideas/worldviews). For example, we wouldn't be able to survive as human beings if we killed all the bacteria in the world. Expansion/evolution/survival needs a delicate balance which does not require our thinking to interfere. Too much survival will end up backfiring at us, causing us to die (currently happening on a global scale i.e. wars, pollution, etc...). On the other hand, growth/expansion happens naturally without our interference. Growth is a natural process. No need for being neurotic about it. Everything is perfect, and all is taken care of. Don't worry. This is bullshit. You're hopelessly stuck in Maya until you decide to be honest with yourself about it. You're not beyond enlightenment and non-duality. It's just a disfunctional version of enlightenment, while having inaccurate maps for reality and lacking clear-sightedness. It's usually counter-productive unless it's asked for. Non-duality teachings have confused people for so long. We don't need more confusion. Only the ones who ask for clarity about reality should be taught, because they are deluded, since reality is clear and simple, there's no need for clarification.

Now we're talking! How else is nonduality going to resonate with materilists?

Yeah, you're not taking the relative into account. Truth includes the relative. Non-duality includes duality.

@Aakash As long as you are paradigm locked, try to keep that lock away from other people's minds. Your lock would not resonate with their locks, and you wouldn't succeed in convincing them of anything. Until you're free, you will only cause damage. Accept that fact and move on to silence, it is one of the greatest teachers that I have ever known. Nobody cares about progressing consciousness except the ones that have already bought into that idea. Progressing consciousness doesn't make any sense to the ones who don't share the same paradigm as yours. You can do whatever you want. There's nothing wrong with mental masturbation, except that it will prevent you from actually having real effects on the real world. That's why I said your teachings are counter-productive. What I suggest for you is to go on a retreat and meditate for as long as you can, and then return, maybe then you will have more clarity. Right now you're stuck in Maya, you can either stay or let go. It's all up to you.

@Preetom I wasn't actually looking for answers.

@Mikael89 What is consciousness?

@Aakash You're 'paradigm locked'. You can't even see what's beyond your current paradigm. What you preach is not the truth. It's just pointers. You are confusing the two. (yes, I know that pointers are also the truth). Your teachings are counter-productive. That's why I'm criticising them. If you're happy with your beliefs, then great. You're not doing anyone any service here. You're just mentally masturbating all day long. Seriously, don't you have anything else to do in your life?

You don't need to know. Just accept whatever comes in your life, be it thoughts, emotions, work, family, or anything else.

That's true non-duality! ?

@DrewNows Why should she convert from her current views? She does not seem to be suffering at all. Somehow you do. @Aakash Please stop trying to convince people of your worldviews. You've had some great discoveries, we get it.

Up.

@Kushu2000

Surrender to that. That's the trick!

10 minutes of meditation. And then contemplation/inquiry into the nature of resistance for as long as you can/need. Developing mindfulness throughout the day. Strictly minimalist lifestyle.

Insert an emoji before and after the @username and then select them altogether and then delete. @possibilities We can't disprove logic through language, because essentially language is a logical tool. Anytime we use it to disprove logic, we get stuck in a strange-loop. At the same time, we can't prove logic either, for the same reason. The thing is, whenever we think, logic happens as let's say a mind phenomenon (metaphor), and whenever we don't think, logic disappears. So, maybe we could agree that logic is a temporary phenomenon that is relative to a state of consciousness, which we might call illusion? In my language, illusion means something that appears to be true but isn't. We could expand this view even further by applying the same criteria for everything else. So, in the end, what we could conclude is that everything is an illusion, but that illusion is occurring, so we could say that it exists and that it's true. Again, due to the limitations of language, we're stuck in a strange-loop. In my experience, the only way to transcend it is by releasing the mind, or in other words, by returning back to emotions. (p.s. I tried my best to understand your previous posts. I'm not sure my post is relevant )

I recently started experiencing ecstasy after work every day, especially when I work until before midnight and get back home on feet while listening to music. My usual day varies in degrees of happiness, my baseline state is peace, but I still experience suffering from time to time, which clearly shows that I'm not enlightened. To me, enlightenment is like you described, becoming permanently more happy than falling in love, that's pure bliss that I started experiencing lately, plus it's not addictive at all since it requires letting go, I mean it can't be activated when you try to, it will happen only by letting go of it.