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By the same logic, gravity is imaginary. I'm free to talk whatever I want as long as there are no definitions. By the way, you still haven't answered my question: What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

@DrewNows I don't like the process of arguing per se. What I like exactly is to show people where they are deluding themselves, i.e. how they're clinging to false gods.

I'm not asking for examples. I'm asking for a definition.

@tsuki That was not what I meant. What I meant to say was that if love is the essence of everything, then it does not matter to love whether someone follows it or not, because it is inevitable and always the case. There's no duality in Love. Love loves all, including suffering and delusion. The only way hatred can exist is by limiting Love. So, the question is: are you aware that that's just your ego and how it likes to view Love and manipulate it to achieve certain goals? Not saying that anything is wrong with that, just a question of awareness. @Jack River You still haven't answered my question: What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

To me, that's just a thought. What is knowledge but maps? I like the territory a lot more.

@DrewNows ?

@tsuki There is no mystery, and there is. Depending on how you look at it. The present moment is also plain, clear, and simple. I don't view love as a rule. That would make love both limited and a limitation. I view love as the highest order, or as the essence before rules and before everything else we might call "creation". @Jack River You still haven't answered my question: What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

I'll take this cue and leave before Mandy throws her laptop at me.

Although I don't disagree with that, but I think contemplation is a better practice here. It's like saying that every liquid is water when there's no real distinction between water and other liquids. There is still a practical difference. Nope. I'm already diving deep enough, I guess. I don't feel like I need more. Just keep in mind that all answers are ultimately thoughts about the present moment, which is not to say they're not part of it.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean. Feels like I'm going to leave again

Perhaps it goes full-circle. Perhaps it's not black or white. For what I know, there's no causation in the present moment.

@tsuki Look, I'm not disagreeing with you. I also don't like the idea of being completely indifferent. Yet, I still sense this sort of clinging that is happening on your part, which does not necessarily have to be happening in all others as well, or at least maybe in different degrees. I sense that you're still under the spell of paradigms, meaning that you think that they're just as fundamental as the raw being. Consider that in a fight or flight response, there's no need for paradigms, the raw being does it all, without the interference of thought. Worry, or don't. Everything is as it should be.

By letting go of life, surrendering to death. By dying. Assuming there's no possible way to feed oneself.

Hmmm ? I thought ignorance was bliss.

Idealism also is just another extreme. I prefer going meta.

What does dangerous mean?

@mandyjw I'm not sure why. But I can still make visits.

@tsuki Maybe. I sensed a clinging on your side, that's why I said so.

@tsuki You yet have to collapse the distinction between thought and reality. After that, things will become much clearer to you.

@Barna Why are you still practising self-inquiry? Like what? And how do you know?

What do you mean by the word "imaginary"?

How does your perception of yourself feel different every time you try to capture it? First, it was something that you called "the present moment". Then, it's become an inquiry. Then, curiosity. I think that there's still a process of conceptualizing that is happening in the background, and it's so sneaky that it doesn't appear on the radar. What is happening other than what is happening?

Do not try to find conceptual answers for who/what you are. That's not how you do self-inquiry, but rather how you distract yourself. Focus more on the sensation of the self. Try to pin down the one that is asking questions, not conceptually, but actually. Who is asking questions about questions? Who is the one that wants to know? ... However, you can contemplate the nature of questions on another time. What about the thoughts? The mind? The relationship between thought and reality? Do you already know what those things are? How about what is an answer?

In general, a question is a part of the process of creating a distinction (duality). The process would be like: Awareness of the distinction. Understanding the distinction (asking questions). Implementing the understanding (answering the questions). Another definition would be that a question is you (awareness) limiting itself in order for you to get specific outcomes. Example: scientific research. Another definition would be that a question is you (awareness) trying to identify something as something else, trying to identify sensation as thought, trying to create a (better) map for the territory. Example: existential inquiry.

Lose all seriousness.