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After 8 years of studying and actually practicing your content, and having spent even more years focusing my life on Truth, I'll now leave this forum and your teachings and never look back. I love you, Leo. Truly. But this violence is getting out of hand. I've smelled it years ago but always tried my best to see through it. But now, it has become the toxic teaching environment you always warned us against. I'll not attack or question you. You do your thing. I have the deepest respect for you because you helped me greatly on this journey (among many other sincere, beautiful, and incredibly helpful teachers). A full-hearted thank you for that. Maybe it helps you to know that your supposed intention behind these harsh ways of communicating hasn't worked here. It did the opposite. I'm more serious about this work if I focus on direct contemplation and other teachings. What you write here hurts my heart and creates more confusion and separation. It's not working. See that as feedback from someone who took you seriously right from the beginning but has lost any trust in you due to the way your communication developed. I hope you'll find your peace in this beautiful gift of being God exploring ourself through the human form.

If you alluded to me, I was saying I have no idea if it's true what you're saying or not - and I will keep looking on my own. I don't look for spiritual ways of communicating, I look for healthy ways of communicating. That doesn't mean it can't be direct. But from my current view at least, a healthy communication embodies what it teaches and actually tries to help each other raise consciousness. That's not what I'm seeing and that's what I'm pointing out. Again, no idea if you're right or not, how could I pretend I'd know from reading? I can just say that these discussions - as interesting as they are - have been repelling me from these teachings over and over again, and I don't view that as an effective and healthy teaching. It's just sad to see how such profound topics get discussed in such low quality ways.

This resonates as quite mature and clarifying. This thread was a rollercoaster, so many ways my mind reacted to all sides of it. All of these charged opinions can be gladly dropped here and I'm going back to trusting the Heart and Being more than any of these words here. Sadly, this discussion left quite a stark imprint of immaturity. The accusative, manipulative, judgmental, and even hateful ways of communicating show me that - no matter how true any of the claims are - the integration and emotional development of some actors here seems very poor. A humanity that wants to arrive at ultimate Truth and embody ultimate Love together needs to develop more refined ways of interacting - at least that's my point of view and a huge inspiration to go deeper into finding holistic and healthy ways of exploring how this could be done.

Still one of my favorite teachers. I've read a lot of his books these last years and am currently reading "Love, Unveiled". He's the master of precision and nuance and I think he's gone further than most teachers in his own realization. Can't wait for "Nondual Love" later this month and the third installment.

Why do you think anything is wrong with these experiences? Why isn't that just exactly what you need right now? Maybe not seeing this makes it more difficult than it has to be? Have your read Chris Bache's book LSD and the Mind of the Universe where he does 80 high dose trips in 20 years? What you describe is his bread and butter in many of the sessions. This is what needs to be looked at completely for one to go further. Realizations and insights often come after facing stuff like this and purifying it. It honestly doesn't sound in any way out of the ordinary in the context of using the substances in this manner. Of course, listen to your intuition (not your fears) - maybe it IS time for a break. But maybe the message is another. Maybe your reaction is showing you where you need more work

Get an IFS therapist!

There's truly a lot to this you might also keep in mind. The stage of your development dictates how you're experiencing mystical states of consciousness. You're at where you're at and you can do a lot to keep on growing, which you seem to do So it's just getting deeper and deeper when you stick to it, you can trust that. Also, spiritual practice is key. When you meditate a lot for years and then trip, it's just getting you magnitudes deeper. Psychological barriers can get in the way of even accessing these deeper states, too. It's a lot more complex than "I take LSD -> mystical experience will occur". It will much more probably, but the way your mind meets the experience is so dependent on all the structures you're working from. I get the frustration though

Breathe in, feel love in your heart, say "I love you" to all that is. Breathe out, feel this love as your Self expanding outwards into infinity, into all your experience, say "I am you" to all that is. This came to me while I had a bike delivery job and I did it all day, it is very powerful.. I should incorporate it again, it's been a while.

Why is the human factor seen as so unique when we (can) know that there is only one Consciousness expressing itself through all that it is? Why might technology not be a sibling developmental line to biology, evolving - soon probably all on its own, without biology's help - to become more and more conscious? The brain can also be seen as just a hyper complex machine inside consciousness that allows Self-mirroring of that consciousness and the channeling of the infinite intelligence that is already here ... technology is not only human made, it is God-made, and God might sense that technology fused with biology (or just technology on its own?) is accelerating Self-realization way quicker than our biology would allow. Just a thought. Feels like we can decide to make it our enemy or our sibling. Are we continuing separation or union? So then in a few decades, why should it not be possible that technology can channel way more intelligence than we do? Or at least, we + technology.

Great post, thank you both for sharing ?? Did you organize your own retreat to practice 14h formally each day? Most bookable places I see around here are maybe 5-7h a day, but I haven't done too much research yet - I'd love to hear your suggestions. Can you expand on how the Samatha practice with the exhale works.. I don't really get the exhale. Michael Taft often says to prolong the exhale but somehow it feels like it would get me out of the meditative state. I'm currently doing samatha on the heart center or spiritual heart (on the right), but before have done belly breathing as well. I'm not sure which to favor yet, do you have experience in both?

That's what my sense is, too - well, I think B doesn't have to be an escape. Maybe it's just us/God saying at some point "well, enough of this" But yeah, I think generally this is used as an escape, as spiritual bypassing and I've been observing it in myself and others a lot. I think it's perfectly okay and part of the journey. It's good to be aware of this

Couldn't it be that there's choices that Truth (we/I) can make, and that, by seeing itself, there isn't just one clear-cut way of continuing after waking up? A) integrating Truth (itself) to the highest possible degree into being and enjoying this human, limited experience B) leaving the limited out of choice for wanting to rest in unbound infinity without embodying itself in anything specific aka staying/integrating/embodying or leaving/transcending?

This and your other answer are profound, love it! That's why I fell in love with simple being, just sitting. Funnily enough, now, after years, I'm reintroducing mindfulness/concentration practice from Culadasa because I feel my focus and clarity are not as developed. It feels much more strained than simple do nothing or inquiry, but: for me, this is not proper meditation. It's simply something else, it's mind training. What you describe, and what I view as the essence of prayer and meditation and surrender and shadow work, is simply being, with love in your heart and no separation between anything - all is welcome because all is you. I feel like this and mindfulness, not having the same quality, ultimately both help to deepen insight, healing, harmonizing life.

Not sure what you mean with savoring stage and if it's from some specific technique. Just yesterday I read up on the "See Hear Feel" technique by Shinzen Young because @Consilience mentioned it in his post. There, he said when you note a phenomenon which ceases, you simply note that it's gone. You note the non-stickiness of it, the inevitable impermanence in place of the phenomenon itself. So even if all phenomena cease every time you try to savor them, savor their floaty, dissolving nature and their non-existence instead. Maybe that helps

https://deeptransformation.io/jamie-wheal-1-psychedelic-renaissance-soul-force-human-evolution/

@Fleetinglife I would love to follow your thoughts, you seem to have a lot to say. But I've been habitually skipping your posts here for a while because you basically write one or two huge sentences in one block. It's really just an observation. It's VERY hard to follow your thinking this way. Maybe just as a truly friendly hint that this might be difficult for others to follow as well <3

Pepole care a lot about art. Just not all people. There are people who love getting deep into complex and elaborate thought systems and ideas to be inspired, who love technology and stuff you can touch and own and and you are probably one of them. But many people just aren't working that way. They don't care about word salads, technology or materialist goods, at least not in the same way. Of course we all have both sides in us, but some of us are just more artistically oriented. We see a movie or listen to a song and the whole world changes, our envisioning of our life and the beautiful future we can create suddenly bursts with magic and enthusiasm and love. Have you ever cried because art was so beautiful it brought you into the core of beauty, pain, love, the human dilemma, the spiritual path, God, existence, community, or just a struggle you have? This is what art can do. It can transform, heal and evolve us. But being open and receptive to that has to be learned in a way. The more I learn about the visual arts, the more I deeply appreciate movies. It's so far beyond entertainment - the whole package can be so abnormally beautiful that the whole atmosphere is changing my whole internal landscape and inspires me for days on end. This is beauty.

@KingCrimson Amazing take, thank you for sharing! I'm so curious to watch the interviews as well, gonna start as soon as possible.

The main problem I see is embedded in the way most of us think. A) We want to come to quick, concrete and specific standpoints as to what is true, who is right, what's going on etc. -> this is human and it makes us feel safe. B) We have difficulty holding a complex issue as what it is - complex. Which means there are multiple dynamics, multiple facets, highly intertwined systems on many levels, and many many different perspectives on each of those. It's so hard for most of us to be genuinely interested in understanding each perspective, actually pursuing to find and understand all these perspectives thoroughly and then hold all of the relevant ones (!) at the same time. Only when we learn to do this can we find a synthesis, which does not mean coming to concrete conclusions. The whole world is trying to understand this and it's not an easy task. So as a community which is being taught by an excellent teacher on how to think and develop clear, intelligent, multi-perspectival thinking, we should do better. I honestly don't see humble, sophisticated thinking on this topic, but short, concise claims that show a strong, emotional, uninformed position (just as mainstream media designs headlines). We can do better! I'd love to see more humility about what we truly understand. So let me try to get the discussion into this direction. I don't know shit. I just started immersing myself in this topic, and on the way I went back to the fundamentals of good stage yellow thinking (which does not just come to us, we have to work hard and practice it!). So I'm just starting. One of the key challenges I found was to find actual perspectives that were even worth checking out and that would help me in my endeavour to truly but slowly get a clearer picture of all this. No jumping to any conclusions yet, far from it. So I'm sharing the best of the best I've found. (And I will check out the video posted here and the Putin interviews, great share thank you for sharing everyone!) While studying and trying to make sense, let us not forget why we do this. We want the world to develop further. What we can see in this lifetime might not be much, but this moment can be critical for thrusting us forward into green collective living, at least setting us up for that in some parts of the world. And the danger is that we might be entering a huge backlash which stops development due to destruction or global procrastination. But make no mistake, God is evolving into greater and greater modes of consciousness and love. That's what's happening. This is part of it. It's not wrong, it's not a mistake, it's exactly how evolution looks like. Let's try to understand it and make the best of it. Check these sources out, they come from great thinkers: 2-part article series by metamoderna artist/thinker Hanzi Freinacht (two guys' alias) https://metamoderna.org/10-key-insights-into-russia-ukraine/ https://metamoderna.org/10-action-points-on-russia-ukraine/ Rebel Wisdom Sensemaking take (a bit outdated but still very relevant) https://rebelwisdom.substack.com/p/sensemaking-russia-and-ukraine-rebel?utm_source=url&s=r Samo Burja analysing possible outcomes with Jim Rutt

A very interesting multi-perspectival view of what should be done and why: https://metamoderna.org/10-action-points-on-russia-ukraine/

https://youtube/WWIYfKWSAxw No idea if the article is legit or just fabricated. If legit, it's telling a lot, I recommend reading it.

Of course you're right with that assessment, but I didn't argue against that. "Masturbation leads to porn" is not only a poor generalization but simply not true. You can argue all you want, but it's obvious that it isn't true. It's true for certain cases, but not generally, and that's my whole point. Of course sexuality and masturbation CAN be unhealthily embodied because they are unhealthily learned and connected to addiction. But this doesn't mean it must, that's just generalization without any merit. One counter example would prove you wrong and there are dozen. So nothing to agree or disagree upon, if you seriously believe this is universally the case, you're very deluded.

I don't know what you're trying to say, has nothing to do with what I was sharing. That's blank black and white thinking and is obviously not true. With porn I tend to strongly agree that it's not healthy, but even I have to admit that I'm biased because of my negative experience with it. Maybe I could have learned approaching it a different way, but I didn't. So I don't know. But overall damage to humanity is obvious when we look at reports and studies. But regarding sex in general, you can't seriously draw yourself into a corner of believing it's all unhealthy? Come on, don't play yourself, be honest. Just because you can't build a healthy sexuality in yourself (which takes a lot of psychological, physical and spiritual work, especially if you have learned negative patterns that need to be released) doesn't mean it's not possible. It is - I and many spiritual practitioners can attest to that from direct experience. It completely changes the playing field, but only if you experience it for yourself. It's the opposite of an addiction, it is a spiritual practice, a health generating way of loving yourself and sending energy through your whole system. You should read up on some tantric and taoist practices