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This is what I found yesterday as I was realizing how other moments in time and other places in spaces are precisely here now.

I was recently psychicly contacted by a group of beings. It's great overall, but sometimes it gets really difficult. When I am with another person that they want to get in touch with "through me" it gets more intense and messy, as know there is myself, this being (or even beins) and the physical person I am with. It sometimes got really confusing and I was feeling like I couldn't tell who was who, what was imagination and what was reallity. Seems to be a part of the proccess of gaining clarity around these new levels of perception. I had these emotional disturbances a couple of times, but every time I would emerge victorious on the other side with a greater depth of understanding as to how to relate to these interactions. You coud probably disregard them as just voices and go to the "it's all imaginary anyway" paradigm (which is true btw), but you could also go through the emotional disturbance of distingushing what's going on there on a relative level and possibly becoming psychic

Yes. Yeah, that's the joke

Here are my takes on Enlightenment. I'd be interested if you agree, or if there is something that you see differently. Enlightenment is realizing what THIS is. What YOU are. Without doubt, without theory - directly. So what is THIS. What are YOU? - Infinite Imagination. Without limits, without "outside", without a self. How does it happen that Enlightenment happens? - Just like that. Just as there come moments, where Reality is not known, in the same way there come moments where Reality is known. The second is what we call an experience/state of Enlightenment. Can a person "give" another Enlightenment? - Yes and no. No, because in the end it will play out in your own Consiousness and you will realize that you are the only one that exists. Yes, because relatively speaking, there are beings, who can give it to you, similiary how meditation or psychedelics can give it to you. If you have Enlightenment once, is it forever? - No. You will again come back into states, where the overwhelming majority of You/Consciousness has no idea, what the Truth is.

Cool, I hear you. Agreed, that's what I mean. Well, the words are not absolutely true, but I agree. Only by realizing you realize Agreed.

@ivankiss I agree that there is much more than realization, but I defined Enlightenment as strictly realization. Can you say more about what you mean?

@Gabith Cool! @Leo Gura Yeah, your definition matches mine. Glad to be in agreement.

Agreed, but I could say the same - YOU are not real from this perspective, and I just created you. (might be what you had in mind also) Sure, that's one way to look at it. At other times you will however exprience that there is no such thing as ego, at other times still you will experience that you are a person in a world. But I do get what you mean. Let's

@allislove Yes, thanks for the response. Glad we are on the same page

We agree here. Yes Reality is always known, but that knowledge is veiled in some states, while in others it's crystal clear. That's what I'm saying - When the mind collapses, dissolves, opens to its source. - that's enlightenment. Otherwise it's not. the enlightened being of conciousness is all there is - sure, but again, it is veiled in some states. It is only recognized when, as you said, the mind collapses. We agree here.

@assx95 Try to calm down around the topic. When you totally relax your mind and body while holding the issue in mind, you will have a much better chance of coming up with a healthy solution. It might well be difficult to calm down with this topic in mind, but you can do it. Use journal to get your thoughts about it in front of your eyes, this will bring more awareness in and will help you to calm down. A calm and clear mind can find the answer

Here are these two guys speaking kind of against psychedelics in terms of them having a negative effect on the system. Personally I agree with@m0hsen. Depends on how well you can ground them.

Say you realized that you are Life. When you look around, do all your perceptions reflect that knowing? When you peek into your mind, does it admit the truth of that recognition? When you look at your livinglife, are the actions that are being taken congruent with what you "be" or are these actions predicated upon a limitation? If any of these - your perceptions, your mind, your actions - don't fully and obiously reflect Reality, hold them up against It. Let them burn! Let every sound, that is any less than You face the Law (lol, I mean Reality here ). Let every sight that doesn't give credit to Your infinite nature be challanged. Let every thought that points to a smallness be dissolved. Let every action that is based on a belief of seperation be let go of. I don't know about you, but I am totally not content with realizing, if the perception, if the mind, the action, the body - EVERYTHING! - doesn't directly confirm Reality.

Ok, so here are my first attempts:

Yeah, when you realize that Reality is totally relative, you can totally believe anything you want into existence, as anything you will think of will be true. However, it will only really apply, if you get the belief all the way down to knowing it directly - in your own body, as the real experience - then it's not a belief, but the actual relative Reality. In other words, in order for you to actually experience a reality where a soul existst, it isn't enough to believe it with your mind, although you can start there. You break the walls in your mind, which refuse to believe in a soul. You break the walls in your sensing, which refuse to sense souls - you literally start seeing souls, feeling souls, hearing them. You break the walls anywhere else in your experience, where there is still any doubt about the reality of souls. Here you go! You have a "real" (stil realative, as everything else) integrated, embodied, total reality where souls actually exist (as much as your hand exists for you right now). The trick is not to stop with the mind, but to take care of all the senses also.

I wonder if you guys realized the nature of Power? That, to which sexuality points to directly? That, which awakens the body from below? That, which is not any particular energy, but which powers all of them? Is there anyone here who lives this?

Hi Leo, thanks for opening the thread. I thought I'd also share how I see it. Love what you do, even though I have been following the content less lately. I do understand that your expertise is in the domain of realization and enlightenment, but I often think that it is quite ungrounded. It often seems to me that it is this very high realization that is in a certain way forgetting the human. And I know, you do talk about politics, you do mention that basic personal development must be done etc. you are not denying the world, but still. The teaching works very much with the mind, with consciousness, and similar ideas, but what I always think is - where is the body? I view it as that important as I myself have been pursuing only the highest Truth for years, and I ended up with insights, fabulous experiences and a ruined health (and with it, a more and more dysfunctional human experience). I had to notice the body. And I don't just mean cleaning up my diet, doing excercise, fasting and getting phyical therapy. I mean bringing Consciousness into the body! Coming into the body as Love! Sadly, I never heard you speak about this very specific and wonderful part of what it means to be human and awake. I can't be sure, but as it is, it seems to me that the more we awaken, the more there is a need for consciousness to come fucking deep into the body. And that is very much not about being above it all and seeing it all as a dream. It's coming in. Yeah, I might be wrong here and judging you unjustly. Of course, I don't know how much of that actually takes place in your own life, but as I said - never heard you speak about it. And I think this mirrors itself into this community, which becomes somewhat one side - everything is a dream, while dismissing that there is a real need for Consciousness to enter matter. Who's gonna do it if not the awakened ones?

People, it's time. We are not only Consciousness, we are the Body as well. We must find a way into all of ourselves.

Another journal. I like the idea of journals on this forum and I tried to write a few before, but I failed usually. What got in the way before were my selfish desires to make the journal appeal to possible readers. That corrupted the journal and was no fun for me. I want to make this journal for me primarily. It will be a place for me to dissect my life, my practices, my thoughts. I want to make it informal,... or formal. Whatever I feel like at the given moment. I want to give no restrictions on it,... or yes, if I feel like it. As I said, I want to write about my life (basically that is the only thing I can write about, no?). Some of the themes in my life that I might write about: career, job relationships psychedelics reading awakening spiritual techniques body sports qigong microcosmic orbit self inquiry contemplation god (there was a lot of hesitation if I should write this. It's a tricky topic for me. A lot of belief here, a lot of mind stuff) my upcoming 4 week solo retreat (some pride here) truth health videos I watch beliefs strategies philosophy delusion actualized.org zen gurus surrender! wisdom contemplation again questioning (I loved the video. Really, really loved it) emotions ego the earth nature society culture taking advice from others etc I am making it public, because I want to share. I want to share my life with others, feel a part of community maybe? Something like that. Feel that my life is being externalized in some way. Sooo, feel free to comment/respond/write if you like.

What came to my mind was this "long-term thinking" principle that Leo talks about in the course. Is staying in college going to help you fullfil your life purpose or is dropping out now going to empower you more? Yeah... a tough choice man, you never know. Ultimately, my advice here would be something like - sit down, listen deeply and find out what you are supposed to do now.

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I read something like this in one of Peter Ralston books. I'm really, really paraphrasing here: You can discover and collapse all your neurosis and issues and you will be left completely pure, but for the last duality of seperation - you can't break that without enlightenment. edit: ok, I didn't get the exact quote, but I did get some quotes from his book to think about: so yeah, I know, sort of two oposing claims, but maybe it gives some perspective to take into account.