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On god Yet important to remember what men are attracted to. Most don't if you get to know them personally. They just hate our projection of hot girl's perfect life. Don't understand any of this. It's like me saying to you and other women "there's no reason to fall for an alpha." True, yet you'll do it until you embody the lesson Great advice!

Yeah also this. True. We put these women into a category, while behind their pretty face there's actual humanness and they could desire something nobody would guess. The point is to be able to get to that humanness. And you cannot do that if you judge them based on a pretty face. True and hard to truly understand for a man not having access to them.

Being conscious of your value within society and among men doesn't mean you're narcissistic and full of yourself. Even if this value is something you didn't work for. No one is talking men into chasing those women. We are in it for our own pleasure. So from their POV all these man are trying to grab them, ofc. they will have to ignore them massively and get away from them, choosing only from the top of their criteria. I don't see what's wrong.. They have their own problems, insecurities and difficulties in their life because of this beauty and they have to deal with it. The journey is as intense as it is for the rest of us. Having dicks lining up constantly and access to high value social events, gifts and offers is not what makes up your life and your Happiness. We don't see that part, because it only hurts us that they're so unavailable..

What's the basis for this claim? Cause psychedelics boost the shit out of your experience already and launches you into altered states of consciousness. You can look into a flower and be amazed for 30 minutes, which probably won't happen to you in day-day life very often. Of course sex will feel ultra amazing. It makes ordinary into extraordinary experience, which is its blessing and a lesson in and of itself. You never wrote it directly, but from the way you're communicating about this it seems one way of making sex for you is above other and a sign of trauma work/spiritual development which many of us don't agree with here.

I can't get it with you. Something is not being told.

We hit patterns only to learn how to grow out of them. Nothing else.

Cool, let us be at our stage. ?

That is what you believe. If someone strange comes up to you and makes your day, why would you be pissed him/her coming up to you, even if it's a stranger? You would be happy and probably even wanna cheer up other people's days. Yet so self-discouraging to think you're so unimportant that you can't enrich someone's life or 30 seconds of their time. And massively unfamiliar and questionable type of social human behaviour. If you want to be minimally invasive in social interactions, you will get rekt. All the time. People are not defenceless. They can walk away. They can say "fuck you." They can politely reject you.. People have choice and their rights. Remember that for now this is just your idea. Not what you obtained from reality. There's a huge difference. Make experiments! Be a scientist!! Don't make assumptions and get paralyzed by your beliefs. What if it's just a man's need that's going to help him evolute and make him more equipped for his hero journey? Open for more objections ?

Perhaps you're needing them to like you because you don't like and aren't in love with yourself? Anything you need a woman to do for you to feel good enough is going to repel them at some point. If you're self-sufficient, she'll want to be that cherry on top. This is one of my favourite posts. Thanks!

You're running out of time and nobody can do it for you. Discomfort > Regret. You're basically consciously admitting to yourself that you won't do it because you're scared and unmotivated. There's no motivation. The pure fact that you're missing out on amazing women and developing yourself as a person should make you go do those things. If not, learn to love and respect yourself more, so the love and respect for yourself are building blocks for getting most out of your youth. Motivation is fleeting. Find something with substance.

I have nothing more to say to this as a man than grow a thicker skin and bring her into your world, rather than other way around. If they're not under your influence, they don't get much from the interaction.

Thanks for sharing. There's not a lot of places when woman shares her her true stories. I agree that there's place for boths and one isn't above other, it's about what suits you at the moment and what you get fulfilment off.

Try different things, dating coaches, etc. I don't practice this level of communication.

I fucked outta here. There's professional help.

They're not attracted to you. What can you offer to their dating life that they cannot already easily get?

Those are some boring points. There's nothing wrong with animalistic behaviour in bed and it's fun. I think it should be ok to burst in laugh if it happens.. Just not as mocking ofc.

I think it should be ok to burst in laugh if it happens.. Just not as mocking ofc.

What do you do, how much and what do you mean by no results?

Sorry if I was wrong, but this really sounded like it.. What's your relationship with women currently?

If you don't wanna pursue women idk why you're engaging in this topic. You have no understanding for other people's view and only bring toxicity here. What's the point?

If you really believe this and are not willing to surrender to the fact that it will just make you look weird, I think there's no point in further discussion..

Perhaps there's more art and practice to successfully coming up to men.. This is true, but doesn't exclude othe possibilities.. Yeah, I think the OP never had in mind that women should do this. Then go out and figure out how to make yourself do the actual approaches, not picking an easier route that won't take you anywhere. You can start with doing things you fear less, but at some point you will need to do an actual approach anyway. There's no other way. Also, there's way more benefits to cold approach pickup than the things you listed here.

You don't have to be in high energy. @Vrubel probably means having conviction in moving the interaction forward and showing signs of confidence. How much are you into trauma work?

There's no point in choosing to be an incel for the rest of your life tbh. You can beat those guy. Don't put your masculinity down, that's not a way to live! This is super inspiring. Thanks for sharing ☺️ @Tron No one wants to harm you here. You can get better.

Because of what?