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First and foremost if you don't know who Jordan Peterson is don't bother reading any further. So i would like to have a discussion on Jordan Peterson's ideologies... he talks a lot about abstract ideas such as the dominance hierarchy, and how in order to have fulfillment and satisfaction in your life you have to man up. I feel as if though he is victimizing men and making it seem as if though the outcome come of their life isn't their fault and because somehow men have been robbed of their masculinity and that his advice is they key to sorting it out. I am bamboozled on the idea of whether he is the savior of masculinity or a psychologist turned businessman taking advantage of young men. Please share your opinions.

@Matt8800 Ok I'm going to assume that what you said about yourself is true, that you are no longer neurotic. What does it feel like? How has your confidence been effected. Have you become more social? Have you been able to make transformations that with otherwise with neuroticism wouldn't be possible? How do experience life differently?

@eskwire funny. @Nahm Ultimately i want to stop justifying the good things in life as bad, somehow finding a way to make it seem as if the so called "good" things that happened are actually bad. Always trying to predict the next bad thing, effected by peoples opinions, afraid of being alone and isolated. Tell me what you concluded from that, i believe your opinion to be of value.

@Nahm The inner conflict i have with myself within every aspect of my life. socially, academically, creatively....

@pluto More specifically, its the high levels of octopamine opposite to the levels of serotonin.

@RichardY idk who you are but god bless you

@Outer you know what im sorry, i hope you enjoy stroking Peterson's shaft while you sit on the lap of your straw man

@Outer I think I have developed brain cancer from debating with you (the Milo of actualized.org) for the past few hours. When you have reached enlightenment, you don't go "oh look at that buddah looking motherfucker hes more enlightened than me so that means hes higher in the enlightenment dominance hierarchy, oh fuck I have to meditate harder" The whole point of enlightenment is that you surpass this kinda stuff and maybe fly to mars while your at it. And since I've schooled you big time, might as well be of some help, after all that's the purpose of this forum. Here's the hierarchy you should be concerned about Please don't debate me any further. p.s Im the true cult leader

@Outer I dont know what im talking about? Im persuasion level 99 my nibba Well done, monkey. It has everything to do with enlightenment. And no he doesn't just state a fact of nature.He implies that we as humans have a biological mechanism within us that makes us organize our selves in dominance hierarchies according to the values of which we give individuals according to our perception of competence, and on that note that we should start to articulate our position within this system so that we could be of most benefit to society. There are thousands of reasons to question this, simply because we aren't as fucking simple as lobsters, and serotonin and octopamine aren't the only 2 chemicals that neurologically have an effect on our psychology. In summary its ape shit because whether true or not its ideology, and i repeat, that is the single most soul sucking obstacle between the average individual and his enlightenment. Also for you of course judging by your pathetic bio. Persuasion level 10: Cult Leader I don't meditate. I have had 0 mystical experiences. I am almost completely unenlightened. Oh please, I crown you the Milo Yiannopoulos of actualized.org

@Leo Gura you (and therefore me) are a prophet.

@Outer He leans more towards conservatism than he does liberalism. (1) (2) You egotistic motherlover, the dominance hierarchy is the largest obstacle to enlightenment that is why it is, and i quote "shitty'', who the fuck said it was false? Dont debate me here.Now.

noice........ But i feel as if though Jordan Peterson's aim is to achieve this sense of dominance/disagreeableness, Im not sure whether this something Thats related to his past but thats probable, It certainly creates a bias in which he chooses to acquire ideologies. Thats why hes a slightly conservative (Chances are that your also one because you've been brainwashed by this nibba) , Thats why he is promoting the shitty dominance hierarchy, the list... goes...on... Although he has practical and influential knowledge, and certainly he's made himself to be an influential man, there is a plateau to his ideologies and @Leo Gura hit the nail on the head explaining it.

is astrology and true? You would think the answer is a blunt and hard no. But i really dont know What yall think?

@Nahm again what are you trying to say

@Soulbass alright,thats btw your view.

@Salvijus yeah aliens have made their own astrology based around your farts

@Matt8800 the first video that came up sums it up really... But i want you to think about all the boundaries it sets on your life, it implies that you have no doing in your life that your life happenings are the way they are and will still remain uncontrollable because there is some "god planet/moon/sun/stars" that dictate your life. You're born with this personality, you will marry this woman, will divorce 2 times, you will have a 2,000 monthly income, you will have 3 kids, you will work as a teacher. What the heck did i just write? You see if astrology was like this and its claims turned out to be true, then you have to suck it up, and admit its true. BUT it isn't, Its 100x more generalized so that it could apply to any average human being to look something like this. In your chart Saturn lies in the sign of Gemini meaning that during your teenage years you will be judged and ridiculed and this might cause you to think twice before speaking, damaging your communication skills, but as the Saturn matures it learns to be at ease and can learn to communicate effectively. Like what de fuck. So am i communicativly fucked or wha? What about the following list of people. Born without lims Born autistic Became schizophrenic Born with down syndrome The list goes on... why wouldn't astrology be able to predict those, isnt it supposed to have the reasons for all your manifestations? BECAUSE Its made so that it could apply to the common population, so much so that it can even apply to the uncommon population as well. Its designed for the soul purpose of conformation bias, where you take away what you resonate with and tend to be blind to the things that you would otherwise dismiss. In this cosmos, for someone who has experienced spirituality, everything is interlinked in secret ways we cant even begin to imagine. But i highly doubt, in fact I'm certain that astrology has NOT got those secrets.

@Soulbass what are you trying to say

@Matt8800 So i take it you don't know anything when it comes to astrology... But you are just stating the obvious... There has been a lot of scientific research dismissing astrology If we were to follow any sort of evidence it would be that. But i can't help but question myself when i read about astrological descriptions of certain people and being amazed on how accurately they were described... Again, this may be due to conformation bias... Astrology for me is a boundary, the whole idea of astrology is that the entities in our solar system have specific connections to the outcome and happenings of your life and that you have no say in that, it just happens. For me personally, astrology is for some people is the ultimate justification of their victim and neurotic lives. Therefore, take what the scientists say and what it psychologically comes down to, I choose to dismiss it. But i would love to hear claims that prove otherwise.

@Outer you legit wanna 1v1 me on chess? Lets play at chess.com

@Outer so you're defending the rights of your enemies that don't care about their own rights. Why you gotta use complicated language?

@Outer there is more but your grammatical skills are so shit that you cant even recognize them. and bro what the heck with that last point? i don't get it

@Outer your english is shit.

@Akim He is also a conservative.

Hey, i watched leos video on "How to stop caring about what people think of you" and i just gotta say wow. Now its been around 1 year since i watched the video and taken the advice but i haven't changed at all. Could you maybe list ways and techniques on how to actually stop caring what people think of you.