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  1. How to use Google.

    lmfao replied to lmfao's topic in Video Requests For Leo

    Same.
  2. @d0ornokey i find these gaps hard to fill. For me the defining feature of stage Green is a certain type of emotional maturity starts to arise. An appreciation for trauma and repression. Values line: Orange heavily values efficiency and material wealth, values hedonism but not in the unsophisticated form of red. I imagine Green is more likely to be contemplative about what is meaningful to them emotionally and etc. Orange wants to be creative but is likely shit at it. If you're looking for a formal articulation of stage Green (and maybe even yellow) cognition, I have a feeling that "post-structiralist" literature is in that sort of boat.
  3. @atlanticgirl sadhguru may be turquoise and is enlightened, but I'm impressed by how well his message reaches stage blue/orange. Of course there are still rationalists out there who get trigerred.
  4. @OmniYoga I don't know. In meditation you can try to keep your attention on one selected thing for as long as you can, or you can try to keep as physically still as possible, or you can try noting. Or just be aware of whatever you can be aware of without strain.
  5. I know some people ascribe this to chakra, I just wonder if there is any deep/actual knowledge on this phenomena that can tell you what you should be doing. I'm asking because it happens a lot if I'm meditating, more often with eyes closed then eyes open. I was just watching random youtube videos today, and my forehead starting tingling randomly . So I then decided to meditate. When I meditated today with eyes closed and trying to stay as physically still as I could, I was just hit by a massive sensation with my forehead spreading to the rest of my body and my state of consciousness changed rapidly. This is unrelated, but does anyone else feel like when their eyes are closed (in the dark) their pure black visual field can appear to oscillate steadily, almost like its oscillating with your heartbeat? I only ever see it oscillating when I mediate.
  6. The origin of the word "person" is "persona" from Latin. Persona refers to someone wearing a theatrical mask.
  7. @Aakash I used to be paranoid that enlightened people were walking zombies, and still am. Maybe I should hand wave the question and say that you're thinking dualistically. And then you can retort and say that me calling your thinking dualistic is a dualistic notion.
  8. Who knows what the infinity of "total awakening" is until it happens. My prejudice has been that if one was "completely awake" , the experience would be a twin to the experience of physical death. The same as physical death but completely different at the same time. At that point, who is it that's aware that they are awake?
  9. Total awakening is probably impossible
  10. I have a family member who claims to have had prophetic dreams about someone dying and then them dying in real life (the death was completely unexpected by the way) and other random examples which seem true. To me it seems like there might be something to it, but I don't know if it's just coincidence or what. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? Some people refer to it as "precognition".
  11. If Muhammad was enlightened, then why did he create an ideology? How can someone who creates irrational beliefs be enlightened? What's the alternative, he willingly lied his entire life about literally believing the things he said? Or did he actually hold all sorts of ideological beliefs for no coherent reason? I've watched Leo's Islam videos, essentially just saying Islam was advanced relative to the time it came. But this still leaves me wondering how someone can be enlightened but then create some ideology out of thin air. Was ideology the only way to share his experience in that era?
  12. Not sure what my position other than fundamentalist religion being bullshit is being described here.
  13. @Leo Gura very true. I suppose the culture of that time is something I can't imagine being born in. @Angelite All your dogmatic beliefs about the prophets, the quran and about God are bullshit. There is metaphorical truth in Islam but you've fallen into a trap. You seem to have this belief that some separate entity from you called Allah created everything, and will send people's souls in the afterlife to heaven or hell based on some arbitrary standard of morality.
  14. Yeah, it confuses me a little. I just wonder what was going on his head, when he decided to spread his message the way he did and what motivated him. I wonder whether he truly believed his words fundamentally or what. I'll never know. Maybe he tricked himself into believing something through hallucinations and long meditation. He probably saw Christians and Jews around him growing up, believed in a variation of it and decided to mix it up.
  15. Muslims usually pride themselves on the idea that the Quran verses haven't been changed at all throughout hundreds of years. Of course there's the whole satanic verse controversy, but that aside I have a feeling that the Quranic text itself (not hadiths or interpretations of the quran) has been very stable and consistent.
  16. This channel is hilarious
  17. I know to bear in mind that there are different lines of development which can be independent of each other to a degree (e.g. blue in one line but yellow in the other line). I don't know what lines to draw, and I've also (forgotten)/(can't find) a list Leo has made of the different lines of development. Whilst your stage and your "level of consciousness"(assume it exists hypothetically) are "independent phenomena" (as in the two measurements of your position in both things can be different from one another), there is definitely a link between the two. Some lines of development in SD (a mystical line?) seem to directly correspond/(highly correlate) to non-duality and enlightenment at their core. But yeah I can't tell really assess other peoples positions in this model. Because so much variation is accounted for in each stage, descriptions I've heard are abstract and I don't get it. What has confused me the most is how people describe and talk about green (probably because the orange-green conflict in society is projected onto this forum). I feel like I have *some* idea/feeling of green but its not very clear. There is neurodiversity inherent to humans, and I'm not sure how the development of all forms of neurodiveristy maps onto spiral dynamics. For example, consider people who's psychological traits are almost trending towards being "autistic". Because I don't have a clear and precise understanding of green outside of an abstract understanding alongside some stereotypical examples, hence I find it hard to imagine what it means for neurodiversity to go up the spiral. I have the feeling that I'm at least partially green. And I think part of what has motivated me to ask this question is just that I don't where I lie scientifically on different bell curves of different psychological traits (If anyone is confused from this sentence, I don't have the specifics of how you segment psychology into different traits and how you measure them, but imagine they exist for the sake of my point). I'm sort of autistic but don't meet many of the criteria. And so I'm in this weird limbo of having no medical identity or theory to make sense of myself. All I know is that I am different. Should I read the Spiral Dynamics book by Don Beck & Christopher Cowan? Or the religion of tomorrow by Ken Wilber? Or a different book?
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  19. @Serotoninluv When it comes to reading about people describe tier 3, I'll just read it and see what I can take away from it in regards to actuality. Regardless of what conceptual landscape I build about what I read , I need to keep focused on the actuality and direct experience of it all (ie not worrying about whether this thing or that thing is "tier 3") Interesting what you say about tier 3 descriptions you've read. On a tangent, I always end up getting confused when I listen to Leo. On the one hand he speaks about the importance of not conceptualising and not confusing symbols with actuality, but on the other hand he talks about the importance of books and theory. But I know that actuality and direct experience is thing to keep my focus on.
  20. @ValiantSalvatore I've got the book now, it seems like a doozy. Indigo, violet, ultraviolet, white. The book is extremely thick, I hope being a slow reader isn't an issue. I like books where the thoughts of the author are concisely crystallised, could just be Ken has a lot to say. I'm just thinking what the hell, turquoise has always been my goal. How is there a third tier. I'm confused lmao. Here I am thinking about orange aspects of myself (although I'm probs yellow in some ways) , only to hear there are 7 stages after that. Maybe this is just the natural shock I get from clinging to spiral dynamics. I guess one way to make sense of it might be to give people more credit with where they are along this spiral, but who knows. Or maybe Ken just has a vastly different model to the one I had in my mind (different even in the areas where both models talk about the same thing) . Or maybe I traced the right idea of psychological development but I lack the discernibility (imagine everyones awareness being microscopes of different resolution) in my experience to make further conceptual distinctions. I'll see what I think after reading it.
  21. @ValiantSalvatore Thanks for the large elaboration. I think im going to read the religion of tomorrow. It seems to have a lot of breadth. @Leo Gura How green is my shadow, how green is my food (vegetables change the color of poop) or maybe how green is my waste in the planet. @remember I get the picture you're trying to paint. On a tangent, I get the impression that some people are in love with the abstract idea of purple but aren't actually in love with the reality of pure purple (e.g. The murder, rape, tribalism and suffering). @bejapuskas yes, you're right.
  22. @ValiantSalvatore I know Ken Wilber has written multiple books. In your view, is all the detailed and necessary information about integral theory contained in The Religion of Tomorrow, or do I have to read his "Integral Psychology" book? I'm not put off by difficulty of book, if that's a factor you're thinking of. I've already been exposed to Spiral Dynamics and have thought about it a bit, as you know. @peqkno Thanks for the green resources man. I've got a book by Michel Foucault I want to read, Discipline and Punish.
  23. @CreamCat Nice descriptions there, thanks
  24. @Leo Gura If someone embodies love fully (as full as is humanly possible), will they become all lovey-dovey? And is becoming conscious of love to be equated to empathy in any way? How does compassion, empathy and etc fit in with (embodying)/(becoming conscious of) love?

  25. lmfao replied to lmfao's topic in Self-Actualization Journals

    Friday 23/08/2019 Awareness is the strangest thing. The moment one is aware of the compulsive behaviour you are doing, the compulsive behaviour is already gone. And then the question which simultaneously arises as awareness silences the brain and you enter the present moment is, who is it that it was aware. None of this makes any sense. There is an ego, there is no ego. There is duality, there is no duality. There is form, there is no form. Suffering exists, suffering doesn't exist. There is flux, there is no flux. What is this strange switcheroo of reality? I've recently felt some of my raw negativity come to the surface after meditating. My brain is just a whirling tornado really. Purification should happen. Theres this sense of strain, that I'm this constant/separate self/ego trying to stay on my feet in a world where I am being battered by the hardships and flux of life. But then all of this strain is an illusion? So there was never a problem to begin with? How strange.