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@Martin123 In terms of what he has to say for himself, Leo has explained his change in approach as being necessarily less tolerant of "devils". To be fair, I don't think I have much criticism of the responses Leo gives to people. He's probably saying what's true. Commenting on people in regards to the domain of approach and demeanour isn't my strongest suit. I notice in my own interactions and conversations with people, so much misunderstanding, talking past one another, etc. It feels like a chaotic mess. And I feel like I can see the same chaotic mess in this forum. So I'm projecting, but perhaps not in a negative sense, using a definition for the word different from the definition in wikipedia.

Trump will make fun of Biden's dementia in a heartbeat, dude's amazing when it comes to roasting people. Yet Bernie refuses to make any comment on it, thinking it would be too "personal". Well the stakes are high, you don't get to become president by doing a halfhearted attempt. He needs to go harder. Better that Bernie pull the trigger than Trump. Besides, a president having dementia is extremely valid to bring up. So it isn't a meaningless thing to bring up for Bernie. This man knows how to work a crowd and insult people. Biden will get absolutely destroyed.

He's an orange, lifeless shill. Just another manifestation of the elite's collective will.

*Leo Gura is online and would like to know your location*

@Vladz0r ggwp

@Mongu9719 If it does happen, a whole other set of problems will be created. Human suffering will remain

If Biden is running, I'm feeling a Trump victory.

A line is composed of an infinite number of points.

Rest in peace the realest flat earther. If he managed to succeed in his mission and then came back down and said the earth was round, all these conspiracy theorists would call him a paid actor or something, lol. Straight off of Snopes, woah.

I'm trying to map on the duality of doing things in a low consciousness manner vs doing things in a high consciousness manner onto the possibly existing duality in the title. A big theme one comes across is one's mechanicalness and automaticity. Most people like me are in a constant state of being in autopilot. This fits in with the idea of karma, memory. We have many preprogrammed sequences stored in our brain. If one's goal is to do everything mindfully, I don't know how to reconcile that with the many automatic processes we do. For example, my ability to type at the rate I am doing is thanks to memory and automaticity no? Same for my ability to walk, breathe, eat, drink, etc. Whats the relation between automaticity/mechanicalness and mindfulness then? Can these activities be done mindfully, even though they are automatic. I mean the zen idea is to just let yourself be fully involved in the activity, but I don't think I get that. If I try to be extremely mindful of the way I do my activities, I just find myself having the urge to be cease the activity all together. If mechanism is the antithesis of mindfulness, then I'm confused. Maybe it isn't, idk. I'm finding myself get absorbed in this process of typing sentences in a unpremeditated way, so maybe this is duality is stupid. Edit: maybe the one of many forces in my psyche which wants to cease activity arises from the acute acknowledgement of having neurotic motivations in the first place for the behaviour. But that leads my brain into more blah since neuroticism and automaticity possibly have an intimate relation.

If the kids will end up as neurotic as me, I think I'll pass.

The response to that would probably be to not identify the ego, which is a subset of God, as the entirety of God. Leo the ego cannot physically materialise shit, I'm guessing.

Associated with suffering is a righteous indignation targeted at reality, "How dare you do this to me!". A grim, angry self righteousness.

@Lelouch Lamperouge Trump as a person is kind of ugly to me. But that hasn't got much to do with his policies. He's just a typical republican for the most part. I know it's a meme to make fun of Trump fans who think Trump is secretly smart and playing 4D chess, but on some level I have to believe it if he's just so successful. So there's probs a method to the madness, albeit you might think the method is low consciousness. I hope Bernie wins.

I'm gonna be talking from my experience of discovering repressed unconscious material. So I confronted, or more pessimistically put stumbled upon, contents of my mind I've suppressed from conscious awareness. There is an intense fear like no other. A fear at the absolute malevolence of the world. The malevolence which seeks to violate and rape everything innocent. And in my personal case, there are images of the ethereal tribe which demands conformity and crushes everything sacred and special. I just imagine shaded, detail-less humanoid figures with evil grins on their faces. Malevolence seeks to destroy goodness and innocence for the sake of it. I imagine the serial killer who ruthlessly tortures the infant to death. Is this feeling of violation the root of so much trauma I and others have, I wonder. The perception of pure evil, and the terrifying feeling of trying to run away from it but not succeeding. And worst of all is neither the fight or flight, but the freeze reaction. The despondency of being violated. There are traumas I imagine which can generalise beyond the specific form of human malevolence and violation. I can imagine the some ancient humans living in the jungle and a child has their dad eaten in front of them by a Lion. In which case the blame shifts to reality and nature itself quite directly. But nonetheless, you feel violated by nature. Well I frame it like that for now since inquiring and contemplating this word "violation" is extremely interesting and fascinating for me in this present moment. For some strange reason the contemplation/inquiry of the intense fear I felt has turned into bliss and amusement for now.

Meditating and contemplating on time alone enough can get you in deep territory, so keep doing it. A recurring theme for me is the paradox of flux existing in a timeless world, since in science, a non-zero finite interval of time is needed for anything to change. I could type insights I've had from previous mystical states, but those states are gone, and so typing them is not genuine. Neither does believing in anything help.

@Average Investor There's his "a million thoughts" books which is about how to meditate. I've read over half of it. Its cool, nothing amazingly new for me. He talks about the facets of what make a good meditation, and different techniques. He analyses the different things to it, and tells you how to do it efficiently and properly. He talks about posture, concentration, mindfulness, alertness and maybe other stuff as components to good meditation.

A book written by Om Swami purely on the topic of depression and curing it. I like how the book keeps it relatively simple but is still nuanced. The book spends a long time in the first half writing a bunch of anecdotes, and they serve well. He writes stories about how people got into depression in the first place, what things helped them get out of it. He brings a grounded yogic perspective to all of it. What he does well is showing a variety of stories, where all these people had different circumstances and causes, and they all had different things which helped them out of it. Some people's depression can be traced to upbringing or events which can obviously be concluded to be traumatic by an outsider, others seem to get it out of nowhere for little known obvious reason and end up confused. Whatever the case, one needs to be careful with the shame or guilt they feel of "I have so much, why am I still depressed, am I broken?". Regardless of how obvious or not obvious the cause of the depression looks, there's always some seed. Some experience, and the negative emotions you felt in your perception of it. Unhealed grief and suppressed emotions may hide for a while before unexpectedly giving you depression. The seed was always there, you just never noticed it until the depression. With the nuances and different ways depression arises, there are some universalities and general principles. The yogic framework of there being three bodies to all of us acts as a good analogy for succinctly communicating the wholistic nature of the depression. In it there is the physical, subtle and causal body. It is useful to target and think of each individually, in addition to understanding that dysfunction in one can migrate into dysfunction in another. So the point being made, latch and take hold of multiple approaches. Cover as many bases and address as many things as you can. Diet, meditation, exercise, yoga techniques (of which he gives a few in the book), shadow work and trauma healing, sleep. He gives a little bit of advice and a few techniques on all of these things which you can use, ofc you're better off with also looking into all of it elsewhere as well. He mentions antidepressants, also talks about conflation of temporary sadness with depression. Good book overall. I didn't find anything earth shattering, but the groundedness of it all can give one who's depressed perspective and hope about their issues.

I kept that on my profile cuz I can't think of anything funnier/better.

BERNIE BROS RISE UP If Bernie is the democratic candidate, the memes during the election will be funny as well. Biden is so fucking uninspiring, all he can do is milk dry his association with Obama "haha yes I worked with the first black man to be president".

It's the classic case of casting pearls before swine. If the person themselves is not introspective, no amount of knowledge or data will make up for it. I've talked to many people into meditation in real life, and it's little more than some fad they don't contemplate. Kind of makes me sad how lonely the path is. According Carl Jung, water is the commonest symbol of the unconscious. I'm not what that means, or why that symbol, but the idea is out there. I'm clueless on the idea that there are universal symbols for things across all cultures (so the symbols would therefore be inherited in some form), in the same way the collective unconscious is collection of patterns of survival that is inherited and not due to personal acquisition from your own life experiences. Hopeful I don't poison your descriptions or contemplations of things with extra knowledge/theories like these which are of no inherent use.

Bruh

It may be low conciousness, but at least some of it is authentic. I don't listen to many rappers, but Kendrick Lamars is pretty good, his album DAMN is raw. There is art in all levels of conciousness but you'll need a high level of conciousness to appreciate it all, in you whatever way that means for you. It depends on the relationship you hold to the music that determines it influence for you personally. Difference between getting negatively absorbed and positively absorbed by music.

Hmmm another Zzen thread. Even if Zzen is deluded in some way (i mean the word relatively, he's probably less deluded than the average person) he's not a terrible guy. He's pretty friendly. It's always been a mistake to make this journey about your guru, about their belief system or ideas they share. Its what ive seen many critics do to Leo all the time. Ive criticised Leo in the past for being too conceptual, but eh, finger pointing at the moon at the end of the day. I think many people simply get put off from watching someone mid trip, which I can empathise with since I have that same reaction, but realise that its a irrational thing to cringe at Leo filming videos of him when on a psychedelic. And again, people assume narcissism and ego on Leos part when he says "I am god", but the point is that you are god and so is everything and everyone else. me=you=Leo......, you know how this train of thought goes You are a miraculous spontaneous happening in the present moment, the present moment exists and "comes from" nothing, is nothing. Physicists obfuscate the fact that every moment is literally energy coming from nothing (its a miracle), through constructing an abstract definition of energy and "work done". All physicists have done is noticed a pattern, and labelled that pattern energy. Edit: The way I see it, Leo's videos where he talks a lot are ineffective at directly trying to get you to awaken. As in, even if the disclaimer "this is all a finger pointing at the moon" is given, it might be hard from a practical perspective to actually increase your consciousness from his videos. But it's a harsh criticism to say this since no gurus videos will awaken you, it comes down to doing the practices and direct experience. The disclaimer is given, its up to you to reinforce it. Other gurus might just remind you of the disclaimer more often, but it isn't something to fairly criticise Leo about imo.

It's on the 24th April, king