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I wrote this a while back @datamonsterFalse, they would tell you the amount of energy is constant over time. Not that there's zero energy. Because they've defined energy in such a circular way for the prediction of physical events.

Woke thread , +1

Two things. 1) People get mystical experiences through religion and prayer. 2) A lot of these people probably have ideas about how spiritual experiences are supposed to look like. They see someone else wiggling on the floor and shaking, so then they subconsciously imitate it in a hypnotic trance. Your question seems to be asking about the empirical science of this all. Psychologists and modern science on this forums will illuminate nothing meaningful about any of this. Mystical experiences are a phenomena everyone can experience. And if you accept religion is a vehicle for spirituality, the rest follows. I do think it's likely a lot of these people are in a hypnotic trance like I said in my 2nd point. --------------------- Much better than the answer I wrote is to vibe with this little girl to feel https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1859430/Video-original-viral-video-girl-praying-used-Kanye-West.html HALLELUJAH GOD. WE DON'T WANT NO DEVILS IN THE HOUSE GOD. WE WANT THE LORD.

Still gazing, apparently it's good facilitating concentration during meditation. I take my glasses off when meditating so if I keep my eyes open whilst meditating my vision is blurry. Focusing on one point isn't possible and my eyes get watery trying to do it. The specific act of keeping your eyes open and fixing it on a point aside, I've tried things which are in essence trying to do the same thing. One pointed concentration. A thin infinitesimal rod which shrinks and shrinks , gets sharper and sharper untill it strange loops around into everything. David Hawkins gives you this idea of closing your eyes and focusing on a spec of light in your black field of vision. Kriya Yoga concentration meditation involves bodily awareness of the back of your head with some visualisation. An analogy is like imagining a thin rod sticking through the back of your head out of the point between your eyebrows. These two things, the state of consciousness is identical to still gazing. If anyone here has advice for still gazing when my eyes are open that will be appreciated. My vision is blurry and I like to take my glasses off when meditating

Hey now we're all still trying to figure this out!

@Carlos MK I journal and use One Note. I have a "general journal" of sorts. In my journal I draw different symbols next to paragraphs to represent the content or how I should apply them in the future. e.g. A circle within a triangle is a future mystery to examine. A colon which is boxed within a rectangle represents something denoting tangible action. If there's ever something non self-help which involves a technical skill or subject I'm studying, I keep that separate. So if I'm having an "insight" about the math I'm studying, I keep that in a separate place.

I haven't seen this video. But Teal Swan is surprisingly quite legit and very wise in when talking about most topics. I only say surprisingly because I used to be dismissive of her and of new agey stuff. But to me she's an example of it done very well now, much respect.

Blast this on headphones. When on a heroic dose of Salvia ; ) Also, I'm sure Nujabes has some good stuff in this area.

You've answered your question a little for yourself already. It all comes down to what you want man. Relationships are complicated. It might not be that you cut contact from these people completely, just that you choose to change the dynamics to what you want. --- Law of attraction in regards to your own consciousness growing depends upon you utilising whatever tools you have to their fullest. Alright so lets make an example of two people based on this situation. So you are surrounded by stage red, but it is within your means to get space and distance from it. But if you don't use those means you have to get out of those situations and relationships, you didn't want to grow badly enough. Lets take another person, who is surrounded by stage red but cannot overcome this fact. But this person does everything in their power to empower themselves with what means they have. This second person will grow more since their orientation is correct

No no no the story was terrible. Assigning spiral dynamics to a video game is a pretty hard thing. A video game developer is an artist. The level of consciousness or the vision of the creators is an invisible thing beneath the surface of the tangible happenings of the game.

Pathological blue is deeply sick. Since I was raised Muslim I have seen a lot of stage blue dysfunction. And that makes me appreciative of orange. But this issue you're having, not uncommon and is understandable. I have similar issues with green sometimes. If what's true of me is true for you,it could be a combination of you temperament and negative past experiences that make you suspicious of orange. Your temperament and how that fits in with the norm/average of the people in a particular stage in a particular society. For me for example, I'm disagreeable and I will say what I'm thinking. I will call someone's beliefs retarded. I'm not politically correct by temperament. I want to live a life where myself and others don't leave unfinished business or withold words. (See the book Radical Honesty). This makes me stand apart from other people in green. I myself am yellow. My politics far more closely aligns with liberals than it does with conservatives, despite the fact some of them will hate me. Both in social and economic views I agree with them.

That's because you're only thinking about IQ and not seeing creativity as a facet of intelligence, which should be pretty obvious for anyone to see.

If you lived in a place and time where everyone is stage purple or stage red at a maximum, being stage blue would mean you're pretty advanced and more insightful than everyone around you. Since you've risen above the average tendency and outside influences. On the flip-side if I live in a place where stage orange and stage green is the norm, me being stage blue probably means I'm dysfunctional or stunted. I see open mindedness as a meta-intelligence that enhances every other intelligence you have. Someone can not be open minded but still be intelligent in a particular regard.

Beige being the starting point of all animals, purple is essentially the default of all humans. But the difference between a human and another animal is pretty massive. So SD has large gaps and things it doesn't talk about in regards to beige. How else could it be, for otherwise SD would be an account of how all biology and consciousness forms. Primitive man at stage purple is extremely subjective and spiritualises scientific occurrences in nature. He invents stories where every outer event and rhythm of nature signifies some sort of religious myth, with the myth being an expression/description of his inner psychic state. The sky just doesn't rain, it rains because a god is urinating. The sun just doesn't set, it represents the fate of some deity. The psychology of the modern man (roughly stage orange) attains its complexity to the degree to which nature has been despiritualized into objective science. What was once projected into the outer world through myths (e.g. astrology) is now introjected from the outer world into the individual. Man realises the stories he made up were "false" in the literal sense, and only later does he realise that those stories he made are intimate reflections of his psyche. Most humans haven't realised or become conscious of the latter. Why did man end up the way he is, all interesting stuff.

@Artsu sounds like you need to crumple your piece of paper and Kobe Bryant it into the bin.

@meow_meow Up and down. Sometimes I'll randomly become aware of that all whilst I'm being aware of my experience in day to day life. Happened to me yesterday night funnily enough so I'm still on that residue. I don't get breakthroughs or enlightenment experiences from meditating anymore it seems, just mildly altered states of consciousness. For whatever reason, meditation doesn't work for me but just normal confronting of my experience does. But it's really impossible for me currently to make sense of anything. Being conscious that my self is a movie character, that past and future is fictitious. It makes no sense, I don't know anything. But when I am conscious of this, I know it's the higher truth, my level of consciousness is simply higher than it as at any other time. And how am I supposed to reconcile that with the practical truth of my day to day life, cause and effect, the world and people around me? Doesn't help that I don't have a life purpose, and have scattered and incomplete passions. The highest insight/intuition I've felt from my breakthroughs is that, I am to just let my life unfold. There's no worries. I don't know who or what or why there is unfolding, but I'm just here to watch and let this movie character do all the moves he wants to make. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys. Either way, he'll have to let go of a lot of stuff. There's suffering, fear, death, misery and I have to just accept that to whatever I can.

Got a book from Leo's list on shadow work "Shadow Dance", starting journalling along with it. It's one of the most easy to get into forms of self therapy that anyone can do. I've read about only a fifth of it, but I feel like I already understand the essence of the approach and way of thinking the book is trying to impart to you. But there's still benefit to it I think, both for me and people in general reading this post and here's why. One point, humans are very forgetful and the mind has inertia. I may get a taste or a few moments of great consciousness and insight, but it ultimately doesn't permeate or last long enough. Second point, me thinking I understand everything there is about something is a combination of dunning-kruger effect but also arrogance that comes with thinking you're naturally intelligent or insightful. And the thing is, even if one hears about. And if I continue with the book, I'll accumulate many examples and areas of my life and assumptions I wouldn't have otherwise seen despite thinking I know the theory. I think this is the use of theory and external sources and such, they have the potential to show you entire worlds you didn't know possible. --- Oh who am I kidding, I'm saying bullshit when I'm gonna drop this book and do yolo solo investigation. Reading Carl Jung and cosmically morphing into Jesus sounds more Chad.

@Moon My mom and sister have always been superstitious about nazar, it's pretty funny. They're also superstitious about black magic and witchcraft. I think it's possible that one can send "negative" and harmful intentions to god and the universe but karma is a bitch and you'll hurt yourself playing such games. A lower level of consciousness (as David Hawkins defines it) will have less ability to manifest its intentions on the world compared to higher levels of consciousness, and being hateful/spiteful is a low level. It's the paradox that the more of yourself you give up, the larger you become. One might think for example that being enlightened and letting go of some ego results in you becoming invisible, meek and passive. But it ends up being the opposite, you end more powerful.

@AlwaysJoggin I know this is a tangent but there are some good ass gambling anime (and manga) out there, if you're into that stuff. Kaiji is the best and first anime I'd recommend. One outs semi gambling semi sports. Liar Game is people playing psychological themed gambling games. Kakegurui is gambling but probably not everyone's cup of tea or that good objectively. You might find Kaiji relatable at an artistic and personal level, it's super good and grimy.

@Focus Shift One can still acknowledge truths and facts about biology, survival and society without conflating current structures as perfect and not to be changed. My point isn't that the Pareto distribution is wrong. My point is that it's true but JP adds his ideology to it. Partial truth to JP's perspective ofc

Just thought I'd make a small post about some of what I've thought about from reading Jung again, very brief points hopefully. I'm testing myself here to see how well I can present the ideas I have by posting. ( I need to do an activity to distract myself from this throbbing acute back pain injury) Am reading "The archetypes and the collective unconscious". To bring this down to earth, the "collective unconscious" are patterns of survival that are "more or less" the same in humans. They aren't of personal acquisition, they are inborn. Whilst the literal meaning behind how Leo/(Peter Ralston) use the word survival and Jung uses the words are likely similar, Jung is often talking about the transcendental/non-dual/god-like "true nature" of things which is behind survival, different from the implications of explaining what survival practically means about you being a devil. Both ways of talking about survival are simultaneously true. The contents of the collective unconscious are referred to "archetypes". An equally valid yet more intuitive name is "primordial types". All these concepts about archetypes are still in the domain of the relative on the surface, it's survival. Yet they are sources of the divine, because the duality of survival+ego vs god is false like any other duality, so pardon if I don't make sense. Now to talk about man, dogma, symbols and spirituality. We have actuality, divine experiences man encounters. But these get subject to conscious elaboration and beliefs. It gets corrupted . Consider "archetype" as a dummy word for actuality/(direct experience) for some cases in the following quote if you wish. Essentially, dogma, belief systems, religion, symbols, concepts, are mans first reaction to encountering the divine. We go from image to image, belief system to belief system, unwilling to enter the realm of actuality and let go of certainty. --- Carl Jung then gives a very good challenge to all of us guys in the west. Why are we so obsessed with eastern religions, whilst deeming christianity as inferior? Consider the perspective that this is more clinging to symbols and dogmas after one dogma has failed you. (Yes I know, you can argue about the relative effective of different systems in raising consciousness, how east encourages transcending dualities, that's not the point). ----- These symbols become uncritically believed. The drone-like acceptance of empty and unanimated truisms. A concept is animated when the person using it is connected to actuality and doesn't conflate map with territory. --- These symbols, these dogmas, they are for the masses. They are for you if you wish to remain in the land of mediocrity. Dogma, symbols, concepts, they wish to appease your superficial spiritual concerns without hurting you or dismantling you. So ask you, do you want mediocrity or do you want to explore uncharted territory? Jung gives a story of a man called "Brother Nicholas of Flue" , a christian mystic of some sort, who whilst praying had a vision of the divine that terrified him. And to find peace of mind, he made sense of it under his christian framework. ---- An interesting tangent though to all this. I find superstition so interesting. These symbols, dogmas, they are like "charms" and "lucky amulets" you take into battle. And I find them so interesting. I imagine myself joining an African tribe and doing rain dances with them and whatever other funky rituals. Lucky charms, superstitious thinking, I love it. I failed to keep this post linear and steady. Oh well.

Amen

JP excellently articulates a defence of conservative and christian social values. But what that really means is that he's showing you what's wrong with many of the values people hold right to your face. He's a strong proponent of survival of the fittest where one's position on social "dominance hierarchies" is a measure of human competence and hence a measure of your worth as a human. It's a very sad, defeatist but most of all incomplete view of things. Don't get it twisted, he has a partial truth here. The reality of survival, the reality of biology and how society works can't be ignored. But you acknowledge those things without making those things become "God". JP likes to talk about God a lot in some of his lectures. I don't think I'm straw-manning JP's shadow in any meaningful way when I say that JP has elevated "competence hierarchies" to the status of "God". -- If you want to criticise JP, examine these ideas of hierarchies and the values and beliefs he has about them. The counterbalance description of what a "competence hierarchy" is that JP doesn't get: These hierarchies are really a measure of how much other greedy and money hungry chimps respect you for their own personal gain. To elevate these hierarchies to the status of metaphysical/orientational "God" is ridiculous.

@SoonHei The concentration of that baseball player is a flow state of sorts. I don't know what flow is but it's a high consciousness experience regardless, so seek it as much as you can. Also bear in mind that a baseball player doesn't have to be in flow all the time. Another thing, I'm sure a lot of them are low consciousness but are good at baseball regardless. Concentration/alertness is has been a relatively common feature for me when going deep in meditation. The tension of a straight back, the tension in legs from a half/quarter-lotus , the pain you feel from staying still, these things can induce you into the heightened state of concentration. For the past two days I suddenly developed a sharp/throbbing pain just under my right chest/my back. Probably an injury. Meditating with it got me deep.