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Great discussion with Kevin Knuth, Professor of Physics and former NASA Scientist on UFO's, he had his own sighting as well. Could be worth watching by those who pretend they'd be interested in what scientists have to say about UFO's:

Well this is like 100 people in your town seeing what they thought are Black Mambas, including your Zoologist friend who confirms they did indeed see a Black Mamba. If you doubt that anyone other than the Zoologist saw it, that would be pretty weird. The likelyhood would be that the vast majority of them were seeing Black Mambas since the Zoologist confirms that at least one is around town.

Ok let's narrow things down to David Fravor since he's big in the media right now. But it's by no means the only case. He was a Navy Pilot with decades of experience, was a Commander of a Squadron and he also trained a lot of pilots. The guy is highly qualified and in terms of arial phenomena identification and object sightings made by pilots. He would be your go to guy for this kind of stuff, and it so happens that he's one of the guys who saw this thing first hand. Davd Fravor implies that what he saw could not be anything else other than technology which wasn't made by humans. He does so by saying it's clearly a craft demonstrating advanced technology and based on it's behaviour that it's clearly something that we haven't made. Now if someone was completely neutral and they were presented with Fravor's view on what this thing is, an expert in arial phenomena and object sightings made by pilots etc., and this neutral party was also presented with the opinion of a rando on the politics subforum of a spiritual development forum, if they had to pick a side which side would be sensible for this person to take?

Not sure how sincere you're being, it seems you're mainly interested in arguing abstractions and word-play at this point. We have Navy pilots with decades of experience coming out saying they've seen these things and that they believe essentially that they can't be anything else other than aliens. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to understand that debunking a polaroid some granny took of a hubcap or something doesn't actually make a dent in that.

It's nuanced, Luis Elizondo works for the CIA and we're expected to believe he's the disclosure Santa Claus. He "used to be" a counterintelligence special agent, a role which requires being a very proficient BS'er. The whole disclosure thing is obviously has some kind of agenda behind it, but you'd have to be operating on flat-earther level of intelligence to believe the pilots are lying about seeing what they saw. If you wanted to get into some investigation into this to start getting an idea of what might actually be going on you could watch some DarkJournalist videos on YT. He recently released interviews with John Warner IV, the son of Catherine Mellon of the Mellon banking family and Senator John Warner III. Members of his family are directly involved in this disclosure narrative so he could be worth listening to:

I just finished watching this, was a good interview. It's clear that David Fravor believes it's aliens, he mentions in the interview that if you wanted to be taken seriously you have to avoid talking about "little green men", but after being questioned about what he thinks the tic tacs are he basically alludes to them being aliens without explicitly stating so. After explaining what the UFO's he saw couldn't be, Lex, reading between the lines, says at 2:15:26 "So you're saying if you had to bet all your money, it would be alien technology". This is what should be on everyone's mind at this point after listening to Fravor, you would already know he thinks it's aliens at this point. Fravor replies "I don't like to get into little green men, but it's not something that we created"

It's a good foundation, it's a system where the stakes are huge and credible witness testimony has a lot of weight. The numbers matter as well, two eye witnesses vs hundreds makes a big difference. Nothing is infallible, I'm sure you understand that science gets things wrong sometimes as well. My point which I consistently need to hammer home here is that witness testimony is not something you just ignore. Some people are hung up on the idea of scientists needing to confirm everything like they are the final arbitrators of what's going on in the world. What scientists? A biologist? A physicist? A mathematician? An astrophysicist? Things happen and sometimes all we have are people's testimony to confirm it. How do we know that Caesar crossed the Rubicon in 49 BC? Written records, testimony... not scientists on their hands and knees carbon dating footprints or something. How do we know we should trust those written records? Because of credible witness testimony, how they line up with other written records and so on. Our understanding of the world and history is built on this stuff. If you have all the evidence lined up for UFO's and aliens and you have to make a conclusive decision on whether it's real or not, you'd need to think like a lawyer or a judge. Just being a biologist probably won't help you, or just being an astrophysicist probably won't help you either. But you could get their opinions on certain narrow things where they have their expertise if that helps in any way. These hundreds of witnesses, are they lying? What's their motive, these four people who passed several lie detector tests and all saw the same thing.. are they lying or telling the truth? Think like someone's life is at stake and you have to make a decision based on the evidence. So you want to be as close to certainty as you can be. Now you've got several ex-military personnel saying they saw UFO's disable a missile silo with lasers. Hundreds of witness testimony, group sightings and abductions, military encounters etc. You might even call in Paul Hellyer ex-defence minister of Canada who's saying that upon reviewing the evidence he's certain several species are visiting the earth (see the video on previous page) or the former Israeli Space Security chief who says we're being visited. You weigh it all up and you come to a conclusion based on all the evidence at hand as if someone's life was at stake. What's the likely conclusion.

And here we've come back full-circle to the value of credible witness testimony again. Again, witness testimony has enough weight to sentence someone to death in a court of law, it's not something to just ignore.

@4201 If you could take the following as real based mainly on credible witness testimony, sometimes with evidence like with the Nimitz encounters: 1. Things are flying around defying the laws of physics 2. These objects exhibit intelligence, i.e. they sometimes disable missile silos with laser beams or react differently when tracked by fighter jets 3. Inside these objects are sentient beings which aren't human (Travis Walton case etc.) You could infer that the object was created by something because the universe tends towards entropy and doesn't just build technology out of thin air, except for life / DNA. This is pretty obvious of course. So something definitely created these things. You could infer that they are some kind of craft since they have occupants and they carry the occupants over distance like we use cars, planes etc. You could infer that it's not man made because it's technology far above what we are capable of. You could argue that it's somehow secret government projects with technology hundreds of years ahead of it's time, but then you have point 3) which is people are reporting seeing the occupants as non-human. If you take 1,2,3 as real, then imo Occam's razor suggests aliens and imo anything other than aliens seems far-fetched and woo to me.

My point is that witness testimony is valid, and like I posted before it can mean the difference between a life-sentence and getting off in the court of law. In the legal system, you look at things like credibility of character, ulterior motive etc. And when you have a bunch of people of good character saying the same thing, pieces start to fit together. You compare that with other evidence and you build a picture. Autists in the scientific community can't do this for you, though they are very useful for certain very specific things. No, I meant like the objects in the Nimitz encounters etc. where nobody has a clue what they are since they show up on radar and they got visual sighting on them. Have you looked into that? Most UFO sightings are easily explainable... but I mean if I saw a 20 foot disk shaped UFO land in my backyard and start shooting lasers everywhere and in response you linked me a video of a plastic bag floating in the air it doesn't really explain anything since we're trying to figure out what the laser shooting disk is.

You don't need the scientific community to tell you what it is. Well maybe you do at the moment, but you can grow out of that. Scientists are very specialised in compartmentalised areas of science and in those specialised narrow subjects they are very knowledgeable. But they won't help you with gauging character testimony or piecing multitudes of accounts together and fitting that together with evidence such as video footage. They're not going to help you understand what's going on with UFO's... I mean, what could you be waiting for from the scientific community on the subject anyway? If my sister came home in tears telling me she was attacked by a dog and she was bleeding with bite marks on her. I wouldn't need to wait for the scientific community to tell me she was bitten by a dog. Like what? Haven't heard much from the priesthood scientific community about this, any leads?

Except there are a multitude of cases where people actually see what's piloting the crafts and it turns out they're aliens. So we've got Navy pilots seeing UFO's defy the laws of physics, military personnel saying these craft have come up to missile silos, shot lasers at them and deactivated the missiles... people giving reports about being taken onboard the craft and seeing aliens including groups of people all seeing the same thing and passing lie detector tests, ranking ex-military saying that the government is aware it's aliens. Thinking it's anything other than aliens at this point is pretty out there, and it would be more like seeing electricity in 1200s and saying it's water. Because you know water, always have known water... so it must be water, can't be anything else... despite it behaving completely differently to water and the fact that it's most definitely not water.

The phenomena is being taken seriously enough to be studied further, it has been for at least 60 years. In the legal system, the credibility of character of witnesses and the absence of alterior motive can mean the difference between someone being let off or sentenced to death in some cases. If all of this was presented in a court of law, it would be conclusive that aliens are visiting the earth.

It goes from being an intriguing possibility to a very high probability, or even certainty, when you research the whole field of ufology, i.e. the many hundreds of abduction cases etc. The problem your average Joe has when assessing what's going on with UFO's is they only have exposure to the tip of the iceberg from what's released to them by the media within a recent timeframe, they might have just caught a few recent stories and are basing their entire belief around that. Take Travis Walton, I'm sure you've already heard of the case if you have any interest in the subject already since it's one of the most widely known cases. In the 1970's he was a logger with his colleagues in a truck in a forest at night. They see a UFO on the ground with the lights and everything, Travis gets out goes towards it and is just a few meters away. A laser shoots out of the UFO and knocks him to the ground, his friends flee but then go back for him and he's gone. He's missing for a week, his colleagues, one of them in constant tears, are interviewed by police. then is found by the side of the road. He recounts how he was taken onboard the craft where aliens operated on him. He and all of his colleagues passed several rounds of lie detector tests. That's one case, it stands out and is a widely known one because of the multiple witnesses, but there are many, many more. Now if you combine the many cases where people are actually face to face with aliens with the fact that the Pentagon are releasing footage of crafts flying around defying physics and combine that with military insiders coming out saying this stuff is happening... well it starts approaching the realm of certainty rather than just a possibility.

Quote from Paul Hellyer ex- Minister of National Defence of Canada from the video below: "UFO's are as real as the airplanes flying overhead... at least four species have been visiting earth for thousands of years" Note: He talks about some of the star-systems which they come from which may at first seem like it contradicts the excerpt from the previous document which says that they exist in a realm around the earth. From my own understanding, they definitely exist hyper-dimensionally but some are around earth most of the time and others around other planets. And the way they travel large "distances" would seem to be beyond our understanding, it's like locking into a time period and density and phase shifting into it rather than actually crossing physical distance. Interview with Bob Lazar who worked on reverse engineering UFO's in Area-51

Yeah this is nothing new, governments have known about this stuff since the 1940's. What most people don't understand though is that the UFO's and the aliens are hyperdimensional, they're not coming from other planets, they exist around us in a 4th dimensional realm out of phase with our normal reality and they phase shift into our world using these craft. The idea that they're coming from other planets in a tin-can is just our primitive minds projecting our very limited understanding about how reality works. Here's an excerpt from a declassified document on the FBI's own government website for example, see point 5 in particular: The full document is here: https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO Part 1 of 16/view

Sorry, I went on a bit of a ramble there. I'd advise reading Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways book in it's entirety but just focusing on doing the tactile imaging on your lower body: toes, feet, ankles, legs and knees, hips, genitals and perineum etc. for about an hour a day. At the very least half an hour a day. Although it can be boring, you will start to feel the results and pulsations quite early on after a few sessions. And then the sensations will get stronger and stronger. As the sensations get stronger, the effects will also get stronger. It will also take you less time to create these sensations over time. When you get used to feeling energy through Bruce's tactile imaging on your lower body then I'd advise integrating some other systems rather than continuing with Bruce's system on your upper body in order to achieve the results you want. I've followed and tried a lot of highly regarded systems including Bruce Francis, Mantak Chia etc. and there has been issues with each one. It's taken me years to discover Sifu Mark Rasmus and I recommend him far above anyone else for the type of results you're looking for (and also for other more lofty results). Here's a good introductory video: Also browse his channel, he's got top of the line material on there you will not find anywhere else. But you'd mainly be interested in his his building the ball exercise, combined with the info in the above vid. After you have a foundation in that you can do the bone marrow qigong. And if you wanted to experiment with Dr L Wilson's pulling down exercise, it is powerful, but I recommend my modifications as outlined in my previous post. Foundation in Bruce's tactile imaging though is key imo and I'd definitely recommend having a few months of that under your belt first.

I got into it when I was 16 through Robert Bruce's "Treatise on Astral Projection" book, which then lead me to his New Energy Ways practices in his other book. I really wanted to have an astral projection experience so I practiced a lot every day... within a month or so I had my first astral projection which actually brought me to tears because it was my first real confirmation that this stuff is real. Eventually my focus changed to experimenting with the effects of the primary energy centers, and I was particularly interested in opening the 3rd eye. So I did a lot of tactile imaging on that area, which goes against the system and warnings. I also dabbled in other systems where you would try and raise kundalini, eventually I had my first kundalini experience probably around the age of 19 or so. I've had spontaneous kundalini experiences since then... one was so powerful I was actually uncontrollably convulsing in my bed with my jaw wide open unable to close my mouth, feeling like I was plugged into an electrical outlet. My tailbone hurt for 2 weeks afterwards... really intense. It was mainly after the kundalini experiences that I started to have the lack of vitality and ungroundedness. It's actually pretty difficult to rectify, takes a lot of work. There's a thread on a Yoga site with a guy who was going through it and his attempts to ground himself: https://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3296 In a ntushell, what works for me is forcefully moving energy down the body... but it's nuanced and I've had to learn things along the way. I could do something that works very well for a week or so, but then starts to have a negative effect. For instance, I had my first major breakthrough when I I started practicing the "pulling down" exercise by DrLWilson: https://www.drlwilson.com/articles/meditation.htm (skip the audio just read the text) Where you basically forcefully pull energy down the body by feeling a powerful suction below your feet sucking energy down your body from the top of your head. This was a game changer for me and allievated all the ungrounded symptoms and gave a lot of extra benefits as well, increased vitality, social energy, libido, deeper voice, more powerful presence, better mood, attributes which you would associate with higher testosterone levels (actually including larger and heavier testicles), increased interest in things, greater desire to explore and get involved in activities etc etc. And generally a feeling that your life is on track and that you can accomplish anything. But within a few weeks I started to get problems. One was being unable to sleep and spasms in my legs at night and then it started to reverse and I would get drained and it would almost have the opposite effect. After maybe a year or so, I discovered that focusing the energy in an inverted triangle shape made the exercise more powerful but also sustained the energy for much longer. The shape is like a cone with the widest part above your head and the point at your feet. When you bring the energy down, you condense it and feel it's getting more dense and heavier at your feet. This really supercharged it and the positive benefits would last longer. But again, there would be issues over the long term and it would stop being as effective and then somewhat counterproductive. Perhaps a year or so later again, I discovered that by forcefully directing energy down I was actually depleting energy reserves in my lower centres, draining them down into my feet. So while on one hand it was powerfully grounding my energy, on the other hand over the long term it was also draining my lower energy centres. And so since then, I've found that using that inverted cone shape directed first to the feet and filling them up, and then to the root chakra and filling that up, and then to the lower dantian and filling that up seems to be *the* solution. It seems you need a solid foundation and then fill it up from there. This is actually in keeping with Robert Bruce's New Energy Ways system as well, where he says you need to fill up the lower chakras first. But his technique of moving energy up from the ground never agreed with me, I need a very strong downward action which is also in line with what DrLWilson says in his pulling down technique. I have also experimented with pulling up energy from the earth. There's definitely some potential there, but there's something off or incomplete with it, probably especially for men. Over the years, I've noticed that when I pull energy up from the earth I may get some quick energy, but it's also mixed with a kind of 'floatiness' and subtle anxiety. It also seems to make me instantly "invisible" to women whereas when I bring it down suddenly I get attention. So there's a gendered polarity thing going on with it it seems. I've had the opportunity to experiment with this and notice the results over many years. Bringing energy down, condensing it, combined with a feeling of becoming heavier and more charged up with this energy will give you a very masculine polarity which you will feel and people will pick up on. This is not to say that no energy should come up from the earth, but I feel it's not something you should focus on. At least without some other complementary exercise... I've experimented with mixing the upward and downward energies with varying success, it's a work in progress. Also, as a foundational exercise, doing Robert Bruce's tactile imaging on your feet, legs and hips is key. Just doing that will give you a lot of vitality and clear a lot of blockages out. It's a gradual increase, unlike the condensing down exercise which gives very immediate results. But I had been doing Bruce's techniques on my lower body for many years before I got into that so I think it's important to have that as a foundation. Having a lot of hours of tactile imaging behind you enables you to feel the energy... and it's the feeling of the energy which makes it real, not the image of it. So yeah, combining a regimen of tactile imaging on your lower body every day with a condensing down exercise will give you that lower vitality and its benefits. Another extremely powerful technique is condensing energy into the bone marrow. You might see a pattern here, it's largely about condensing the energy. The bones are the densest part of our bodies and are able to store a very high charge of dense etheric energy. In Traditional Chinese Medicine theory, the bone marrow is said to relate to kidney system which is said to produce semen energetically. Sifu Mark Rasmus is an absolute legend, the real deal, I hold him in very high regard. Here's a video of him going over bone marrow qigong. If you have a foundation in tactile imaging and combine that with the bone marrow qigong, the results are very powerful. The downsides when you get results with this is that it can overheat your body if the energy is not being used and make you quite angry. He talks about some ways of overcoming that.

I have a lot of experience with Robert Bruce's system, PM me if you need any help with it or want to know anything specific.

It's not "that" hard to influence reality using occult means and plenty of black magicians are able to perform supernatural feats without the need of a high degree of consciousness. But there's kind of a negative feedback loop for these people so they end up destroying themselves over time and effectively become slaves to higher power dark entities. A mainstream example of this would be EA Koetting, he's managed to pull off a few supernatural things but his lack of morality will eventually come to bite him in the ass in this life, the afterlife or subsequent lives. But it's really the people you don't hear about who have the real power, however they don't make a big show out of it. John Chang is able to pretty easily perform supernatural feats using Mo Pai as is shown in the short documentary about him, he shuns the camera though and hasn't been seen for many years since. He meditates a lot in solitude, for years on end even. But the techniques of Mo Pai can ironically be summarized as accumulating a tonne of energy in your gooch (perenium) and then projecting it outwards. The meditation I assume is so you don't go crazy which is pretty easy if you go deep into the occult. If you only spent a couple of hours a day doing practices in Franz Bardon's Initation into Hermetics for say 3 years, you should be able to pull of some pretty intense reality warping stuff. DMT seems to blow people out of their bodies and they experience all this amazing transcendental stuff which hopefully manages to make an impression on the mental body, but then you're back in your physical body with it's limitations. You remember some abstract concepts but you're still a very limited being. But if you have mastery over the lower levels, the astral and etheric bodies, then you'd be able to truly transmit higher level energies into this physical dimension and perform high level miracles. If a DMT being were to manifest in your room right now, not only would they probably take out the power-grid, they would be condensing themselves down the planes and accumulating a shit-tonne of astral and etheric energy to do so. You can do this on a small scale, but you'd need to actually start mastering the etheric and astral bodies, not just the mental and spiritual.

I recommend bulk making meals and then freezing them to save money. These are my go to bulk meals: Spaghetti Bolognaise... makes 10 meals, total cost ~£12 ... or about £1.50 per meal when you add in the spaghetti 500g beef mince + 500g pork mince (~£5) Plenty of carrots, onions, celery and some garlic (~£2) Whole pepper-corns (~£0.05) 4 big jars of tomatoe pasta sauce (~£4) Olive oil (~£0.20) 2 beef oxo cubes (£~0.20) Finely chop the veg and fry in olive oil until soft and aromatic. I use this opportunity to add loads of veg to this dish to both bulk it out so you get more meals out of it and so it's more healthy, A lot more veg than you would usually use in a bolognaise, but the result is nice in both taste and texture. Add the mince and fry until browned. Add tomato sauce and peppercorns. You can sprinkle in some italian herbs as well. Scoop out some sauce and dissolve the oxocubes in a cup then add that back into the sauce. Add peppercorns. Add salt. Simmer for ~3 hours. Adjust salt to taste. This yields me 5 tupper-ware tubs of bolognaise sauce for me and each tub yields 2 large plate-full meals when combined with spaghetti, for a total of 10 large meals. I freeze the tubs and rotate them into my fridge when I want. Just add the sauce to pasta, I tend to half-cook the pasta so it's very undercooked and then strain and finish it off in the sauce uncovered on high heat. This allows the pasta to absorb the flavour and also steams off more water from the sauce which intensifies the flavour. ----- My easy version of "Avgolemeno" ... a greek rice soup, makes again around 10 meals It contains bone broth so it's very nutritious ... around ~£7 or £0.70 per meal 500g dry jasmin rice (~£1) Lemon juice (~0.3) A couple of chicken carcasses + 8 chicken drum-stick / thigh bones (~1) Chicken meat (~£2) Plenty of carrots, onions, celery and some garlic (~£2) 2 chicken oxo-cubes (£~0.20) Olive oil (~£0.20) Vinegar (~£0.10) I buy frozen chicken carcasses from my local butcher for cheap and then buy a bunch of chicken drum-sticks/thighs. Whack them in the oven, then take them out and cut off the meat from the drumsticks/thighs. Use a meat cleaver to chop the bones up to expose the bone marrow in both the drum-stick/thigh-bones and the chicken-carcasses. Add the bones, skin and anything you're not using into a large pan and whack in a few aromatics like onion, celery, carrot. Cover in water, add a dash of vinegar (important to extract nutrients from bones) bring to the boil and simmer on very low heat for ~12 hours. I let it simmer overnight. Just make sure it's bubbling before you go to bed and there's enough water so it doesn't completely evaporate while you're sleeping and set off the fire alarm or something. Next day, strain everything so you're left with the bone broth. Add chopped veg, chicken meat and dried rice. Throw in the peppercorns and lots of lemon juice, I use half a bottle myself. Dissolve oxo-cubes in. Simmer for about an hour stirring every now and again. Season to taste. This is quite high calorie for a soup because of the rice and it's very thick and hardy. You can add more olive oil for extra calories if you want as well, or butter or something. ---- Thai Green Curry ~10 meals, ~£11 or about £1.30 per meal when combined with rice Chicken meat (~£3) 4 cans of full fat coconut milk (~£2) Seaseme seed oil (~£0.30) A bunch of whatever vegetables you have, anything goes really (~£1) Spring onion, garlic, ginger (~£2) Thai green curry paste (I'd only use the "Mae Ploy" brand which is what real Thai people use here, or whatever equivalent where you are.. I would never use generic supermarket stuff, I've tried it and it's nothing like the authentic paste) ... (~£1) Thai Fish sauce (~£0.30) Couple of chicken oxo cubes (£0.20) Sugar (£0.05) Fry the spring-onion, garlic, ginger in some seaseme seed oil. This combo tends to give a real oriental flavour to whatever you decide to make btw. Add a few table-spoons of the green curry paste and fry for a couple of minutes to let the flavours out. Add all the coconut milk then whack the vegetables and chicken in there. Dissolve oxocubes and add a couple of tablespoons of fish sauce (<--- important, can't skip the fish sauce). Add some salt and a couple of tablespoons of sugar. Simmer for like half an hour. Serve with cooked jasmin rice. Each meal you should get a big plate-full of the stuff. -------- So yeah if you cooked all of this you'd have 30 delicious meals for about £35.

The spiral dynamics framework has never really resonated that strongly with me, but maybe I'm missing something. I struggle to wrap my head around how stage orange is above blue for example... I've read many near death experiences, probably well over a thousand now, involving people who die, experience the afterlife and then come back. These people often talk with highly advanced beings and get downloads of universal truths, have life reviews etc. In none of them did I ever hear that stage orange characteristics are considered more developed than stage blue type characteristics. On the contrary, stage blue people were generally held as much more developed than stage orange people. This came as a surprise to a few atheists who had NDE's who then discovered that these beings considered their quaint religious neighbours as much more developed than them, even though the atheists thought these people to be pretty dumb. This one guy was a materialistic atheist and used to make fun of some Christian group on his campus that would go around trying to convert people to Christianity. And there was this one guy who he thought was crazy who was into Yoga and stuff. This atheist died for a few minutes while under surgery, was in shock that there was an afterlife, and beings of light showed him that the bible thumping Christians were miles ahead of him in terms of development... they also showed him that this crazy yoga guy was even higher than them in development which shocked him more... but the point is that I see this repeated a lot in NDE's, that stage blue seems to be held as higher than stage orange.

Ok that's interesting actually, thanks for the clarification. I'll give it some thought

I'd say there's no doubt that your average atheist is much more intelligent, in say IQ, than a bible-thumper. But intelligence or IQ doesn't seem to be a great measure of spiritual evolution in the higher realms according to my NDE research. For example there was this one guy, Howard Storm, who was a very intelligent atheist professor at a University. Died of liver problems, got brought back to life. He was shown the greatest achievement in his entire life was comforting his sister when she had a nightmare when they were both kids. Other than that the beings considered his life pretty fucked up and unevolved, they didn't really care about his academic success etc. Taken to the extreme, there are hyper intelligent beings who have completely devolved in terms of spiritual evolution and would be more akin to demonic entities, known as the "Grey aliens". They have intelligence beyond our comprehension, yet they are completely spiritually devolved and more akin to AI than sentient beings.

I'd usually think of it in the framework of chakra development. Like stage red sounds a lot like people being focused primarily on the lower chakras without any higher chakra activity. Blue as open throat, the beginning of the opening heart and slight opening of the crown chakra, but closed 2nd and brow chakras. Orange as similar to red with powerful lower chakras but also with a strong brow and throat chakra activation. Green as opening of the heart chakra and weakened lower chakras and maybe less powerful brow chakra than orange.