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@Devin Personally i wouldnt put someone if shes not my wife in a position of a business partner. I didnt even get the chance to get to a creme de la creme because of the resistence of a non believers ?

@petar8p how can you miss the analogy where company is relationship that you envisioned and employee is her... Im not even gonna waste my breath ?

@petar8p So imagine in a company of Elon musk an employee has a power to decide the course where things will go where would that lead ? Elon is the one seeing if the information fits the vision and where it will go because he knows whats best for company to function. You are the one making the masterpiece of the relationship the experience you are offering if shes directing then relationship(company) wont go where it should to your amazing vision...she doesnt have ability to lead the relationship or if she does you will get to the first star and drop ? Nobody there would say look Elon put us on the mars hes a tyrant mybe in that moment but in the end Elon is the boss Ceo and he will make sure that company gets to the top! Every employee has right to go out of the company if they dont see if its not for them(where Elon leads) so does the woman and she will be dismissed if she wont go to the Mars she wont hold back the boss or a king...

@petar8p you talking to me? If yes then... You saying relationships are heavily based on compromises: that shows me you are so happy to have her and you are willing to make her happy above yourself.You love her more than you love yourself ,you value her vision more than yours.. You are walking on eggshells around her and trying to do everything right shes your godess you made her the throne that shes now sitting on. Afraid of losing her so you would rather lose yourself viewing her special. So we are moving and you will follow that cmon be better than that dont be a sheep :)... Game is not just about approaching and having one night stands thats like 1% game is so much deeper i mean in a relationship game is so much more important than in early phases..

@Devin Okay you have your thinking we dont need to agree. I would rather have my way and find a girl that will follow that, than to have a healthy relationship where she will say we will have 2 kids and ill be ok with it. Its one way one thought thats the game. With your thinking you wont make her needs met because you will have her running space in your mind... Im actually done with debating you can have a last word tho good luck have a nice day!

@Devin Let me guess you will say healthy relationships are compromises ? I mean you dont have to but ,you applied to a position of her boyfriend so i decided that i would do those things as a boyfriend and more(not because i must do it its my decision)for her if shes doing what shes suppose to be doing in my eyes...

@Devin I mean if there is no submission then i imagine 2 people who dont know what they want and what they need, so they are just being with eachother or have completely same minds which is impossible.Relationships are power struggles if you dont have your ways she will impose her ways i dont see how would it work otherwise ?. You should value your opinions and thoughts 100 times more than hers,but you can compliment and take her opinions into account if you see if it benefits situation. But you saying that shows me you wanna be influenced by the woman not other way around..

@Devin Then what are you even saying im out of this thread ?

@Devin Yes you are looking to get everything from a women and dont give anything in return... You have to take care of her if shes your girl ? When she has those days to bring her stuff give her massage,take care of her emotions,making her feel a certen ways,leading her,elevating her mind by your wisdom etc. It seems you wanna avoid it all good luck

@Devin touché

@Devin She needs a man or she will become a man... Every woman needs a man or she will become a man...

@Devin When you say best friend and business partners i see that you want companionship and sex with no investment in yourself to invest in a woman so what is she going to get out of that...? Good list but she will get overrun by emotions either way and she will try to decieve you if you are weak she will have poor communication if shes not that into you but she will stay with you to use you for something...

@Devin Woman dont need a man? please tell me what techonolgy you use to read womens minds?

@Devin So how will that that relationship look like i cant picture anything but a companionship between 2 people...? Whats low value woman? @Proserpina and your mind thinks better than regular minds interesting...

What a glitch! does to you guys also says devin posted what i posted??

@Devin Doesnt matter what others could do you need to see for yourself if shes messed up with you when she follows your ways... No shes not a slave she chooses if she wants to follow your program or not. @Proserpina You get it ? @Bobby_2021 Basically asshole is an asshole im talking about a man hes the one that influences woman if you dont influence them its because you are not a man.. She basically gets influenced by a man so much that she starts to change her values for him Her value is based upon his value as a man if shes with a real man she becomes high value while shes with a random guy her value drops... Edit:if you say look this woman is high value by herself no shes not she either had a great dad or a man in her life that made her if shes disfunctional she had an average dad and average guy... Men are different but in a way similar but not for long..

Doesnt matter, man turns woman into "high value" for himself if hes on that level, so be the man that woman are willing to do what you want them to do, for you without queastioning you, without manipulation tho ?

By 100% focus on yourself Unplugging from social matrix..

@Tyler Robinson Because he will try to get all the atributes of "high value man" just because he can get what he wants from others(approval,likes etc.) He will stay in that loser mentality of looking for outside to definde him. And thats why many losers want to be alfa and high value because thats the way society views winners so he wants to be that meanwhile if he gets all that he will still be in loser mentality. Many wants to be high value to get girls for example. They find out they cant attract the women they really want with just status they get used by them..

That's not a disrespect imo(EDIT:it is disrespect to yourself to stay with those people tho ) they are running a game on you because you have no game, so they decide to use you because otherwise they will get rid of you. So solution is to learn game but that's a stretch if you make it about other people.. You are asking of them to respect you just because and thats not how things are unfortunately.Respect comes from respecting yourself aka having game. Find other people that they want you for who you are, which you will not want and would do the same to them that these people in your life are doing to you right now. ?‍♂️ or wouldnt even give a chance.

I get what you saying but its really misleading to people who dont know what you saying so beware.

I can add the atributes of high value man, but trying to be a high value man is fail from the start ,basically its another way of people pleasing in disguise... Depends on wheres it's coming from, if someone looks at list of definitions of how to be a high value man and now decides to be that will be loser from the start to finish ? just a friendly reminder.

@Jenkins First thing to understand is that mind is rooted in outside world the world of looks,money like you said market value.Mind is on the surface and is looking for something outside of himself to get rooted in like you look for a guru and hold what he says as a truth and now you think like him and even act like him.Defined by the outside stuff thats why game has nothing to do with women ?.(and everyone makes it about women because their minds are rooted in outside) On the contrary mind has to be rooted in yourself and its hard to explain here and i didnt finish that process so i can only guide you to source in Pm..

Best option us to learn (real)game from core of who you are, that from the way you are speaking will be a tough process...

Women are flakey in general even with amazing game girls will flake thats a part of the game just accept how it is...