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Everything fine as long as you transparent and letting them know she's not the only one.I dont see how ethics is involved only a matter or prefrence...

@Applegarden8 I dont get your endgame here and your point in challenging me,like i have to prove myself to you i dont care about that. We are in the thread of Starstruck, so im refering to the topic and what he wrote to explain my points by the queastions you asked me...

@Applegarden8 Its about when you are not a man you are listening to youtube figures like Andrew tate and you confirming what they are saying based on women and money they have ,instead of the message they are saying.So in that state you dont have mind of your own, when you dont then what happens to other people you believe it will automatically happen to you and it will actually happen because you are not turning to yourself for an answers(programmed to look for someone else to fix your life) but to youtube figures, because there is no trust in self ,so when i come here with alternative its misunderstood because trust in self is needed,its bassicaly fruitless because i hit part where you not believing in yourself. To tie this down to the offering thing to a woman, when you dont have your own original thinking you basically are forced to offer only what you heared from youtube and your poor perception of reality.You are not creating anything of original value there is nothing different about you,i can ask you what did you create original this week in context of women it will probably be 0. Its on both ends meaning that males cant offer and women cant offer what males need. No im not saying man has to offer more he offers based on his standard, but males dont have standard they will try to offer more based on beauty and wont offer the same from beggining when they get sex. Woman has to prove herself to you and offer when they see you are something different, but when you follow Andrew Tate you cant do that.(make her(i wrote wrong you are not making her she chooses based on who you are) want to offer because women are recievers) My replys are always in depth but sometimes depth is not needed.

Everything she says is right but she wouldnt buy into second persona if she wasnt interested in first place, basically him changing his approach stayed true to his manipulative nature, thats why game is staying true to yourself ,not changing because of women not liking your approach,or telling you how to be. She can see through your bs and you faking it by asking boring queastions for example. If you busy getting a woman and getting laid then you are slave to the resault and you give her all the power.Everything should come from who you are, not what woman or situation wants you to be. Moment you act like first persona or second you are actually showing you dont value yourself.

@StarStruck Okay let me simplify, If somebody else had bad experience with women and they got divorced and they fall into statistic of 50% of people who got divorced,so based on that person that now talks how women are bad ,you going to say marriege is not for me.So instead of carving your own path to be in 50% of sucess you will let someone else influence part of your mind who loves negativity because negativity keeps you in comfort zone so mind did its job.Its about not having your own mind and you working hard on yourself but instead taking path that appeals to the negative side of the mind. If you want marriage fine, if not fine but if internet is influencing by statistics on how you gonna live your life then thats when i see that you have no mind of your own and you cant offer nothing to a woman, because no woman will want to be with someone that other people and world is telling you how to be,what to do and make you doubt yourself,just because they cant do it(and you can) man says fuck it im proving this statistic bs wrong they are no telling me who the fuck i am...

Watch this to understand my point.

This is like me breaking an ankle walking down the street and now i make a youtube video on how walking down the streets is so dangerous and nobody should walk on it, because there is a strong chance that you could break an ankle and worse getting hit by a car ,then i open up the statistic on how many people died walking down the street and its a genocide out there,now im going to tell you how bad it is to even walk #walkingkillsyou Meanwhile im walking down on a street with holes talking on a phone. You talking about periods and then kissing a girl without any connection to you,then she calls security on you makes everything belivable then. Guy on interner has zero game, he attracted a woman with money and how fake great guy he is , got divorced and his money taken now everyone should be afraid of woman because she will take all your money 😂 Im not saying there are not some women who would do bad things, but you should know her beyond her looks to see shes just there to use you but ofcourse #womenaredangerous Money clothes and status attracts women there you have it.(sarcasam)

@Applegarden8 rewrite the queastion its confusing its like 2 parts of it

@Past-Philosopher-562 Your last sentence for example is part of this being too emotional,caring too much.You caring about another guy for example makes you weak. There is a million things i already told you not being 1.not being authentic-being more than he is 2.Approval seeking -wanting her to like him..3.way he talks like saying you so beautiful 4.dont have boundaries because i would walk away there 5.no self esteem so he is taking her to a game that could cost alot to impress her but he doesnt know her i can go to a 1000... What physique you talking about?

I mean she sees him as a loser,a friend by the way he talks/behaves, look the statements average male says then put it in the context,since he doesnt believe in himself he behaves in a way that he wants to appear as confident and guy with game(putting on a fasade, but he comes off weird/cringe because he is needy to get her to like him,so that makes her go towards a guy that is not doing those things, to disrespect him further because she knows he is a loser that will put up with that,you basically teach women how to treat you all the time... Im not saying its okay what she did,but its necessary for him to become a man,to wake up most of them dont...he probably wanted to prove himself to her after this instead of walking away..

@Emotionalmosquito Man doesnt care what woman does that's precisely my point between male (senting message like you) vs man who wont look what woman does to somebody else and then according to that moves...

@Rafael Thundercat then i totally missed the point

@Applegarden8 that's not the point of the thread,point is if you for example have dark humor and it rubs people the wrong way, change in this case is to stop having dark humor which compromises your growth in that style of humor and not being 100% authentic, for the sake of fitting in that particular group or persons ways..which digress your growth because in my case growth would be to stop looking for approval and fitting in ,but to grow in who you are as a person 100%, which peer pressure and social conditioning not allowing, but ironicaly would make you most charismatic... But topic starter thinks you should change for others so you grow(if i got it right)but its good topic not easy to discuss because it has alot of nuances...

I see it like this, im not changing for anybody, because me changing for someone means im looking to be liked and accepted by them, aka. approval which is me not being able to unpologetically be myself(i struggle to be 100% me just because of some underlying persisten belief of wanting to be accepted still 🤮 but it dropped significally since when it drops you are like totally peacful and not trying to be more than you are)... You are not changing for anybody, but sometimes you are choosing to change it for yourself because you see it would be better for you why? Because then you can more easily see which people are for you or which are not and you can grow in your own direction,otherwise you are pulled by enviroment to tell you in which way you need to grow,but maybe thats not your way,social conditioned way to be(alot of self awareness needed here.) Balance is needed in a way that you only slightly adjust which part you gonna show to certen people,but thats still is 100% you. I was thinking about this the other day still havent got to the deepest essence...

@Sabth You dont understand the deeper reasoning behind being grateful, its to elevate your mind otherwise your mind will do whatever it wants negative wise ,since you are not grateful,so be grateful for a hand that writes and internet you have, if not remain in negative states that reflects your ungratefulness.

Cause of depression,negativity,self pity etc. Be grateful to be able to have eyesight start from there...

1.Having resource to get the knowledge i need to grow 2.For not being sick 3.To have ambition to be more than i am

You underestimate that only a handful of people are coachable and willing to follow instructions, not being stuck in their ways. Its a crucial skill to leave your pride aside to become good at something.

@Buck Edwards I mean this could be taken in million directions, you could be having adhd, i had it fixed it with meditation and enlightment work,there are places now where they give you games to play and you look at screen with central dots that helps with focus,it could be your diet,you need to find out what makes you stressed, it could be part of you that keeps you in confort zone,if you exercise your nervous system,too much screen time, i dont know your life so its hard to tell...

I bough zeolite,researched it before Leo mentioned it bought it tried for a month,now im having a break since you must take it and will get back at it,so i cant tell yet how much i got resaults for detoxing mind...that is only option i know... Edit:be more specific on what you mean by detoxing mind since i dont know what type of detox you refering to...

You have to dive deep into understanding of yourself as a person, the more you do the more sense of self will come ,you tried psychadelics on weak foundation as an ego...

Its hard to find a man nowadays, you cant offer nothing to a woman so its same on the both sides..

@Princess Arabia Im not missing ,that's exactly my original point i was making, but im not gonna lie to myself that every woman will want to sleep with me,so i have to add a woman in the mix because im not made for every woman,so i dont have the ultimate power...

@Princess Arabia Fine by me,you just gave me 100% of the power, where i saw that woman's power is in the choosing(deciding) and veting a man, as her number 1 right and priority so she doesnt regret later when its too late..

@Princess Arabia Its very simple ,you have to display who you are and she will be down or not,by her own free will deciding , giving us the hints from the way we display who we are(game) everything else is loser manipulations and adding extra pressure for something that is not that important in the eyes of a man.