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@Schizophonia Explain me the connection between learn helplesness and being a bad friend since last part i didnt get.

@Chosen144 No good friend would talk like: "they focused more on my friend" "my friend could be better looking" like if i call someone a friend i would be glad they look at him etc. help him, not like i wish it was me not him type of thinking... Drop that bs law of attraction you attract what you are with yourself and your subconcious is sabotaging you so wouldnt trust that either...

You call that a friendship what a twisted world. Also you are looking to cheat the game with silly sublimilal sounds ofcourse everything you doing is wrong... You could have been a better friend,stop tricking women into liking you,standing on looks because you dong have substance. After that you will become more decent human being...

What is texting? The way you express your thoughts,feelings,views,sides of yourself through words,pictures,voice messages. So its not about being a bad texter its about you not being interesting,charistmatic,being able to move things,having creativity etc. You just lack all of that overall, what will help you in communication over text with women is learning poetry,same as in face to face no difference, if the way artist express themselves in songs through lyrics draws you to showcase who you are..

This thread is sad locked...

@Devin Ok,also i remember for some reason similar topic we talked and like you thought giving your girlfriend a footmassage etc is simping ,this is where big disctinction is nice guy vs asshole,asshole will please the woman when she meets his bar vs nice guy doing it to meet the bar.But in pursuing her bar he is not doing nothing to offer anything because his focus is her while asshole is all about himself... When she proved herself to be your gf there is nothing you are doing is simping its opposite..but if you reward disrespect then you are a nice guy vs asshole will dismiss her...

@Devin With that messages shows you are the nice guy because you are meeting the bar for a woman from that belief comes all the other cupcaking bs...@meta_male is closer to the truth about being a man...

Add some substance to the thread ,not everyone will just watch it because you post it, motivate them.

@BlueOak https://youtu.be/d618g59NbSU?si=P1lWnY0p2Nx7LFQm This is game so student is seeing karate as being kicks and punches from his weak perspective, but karate comes from depth of who you are its about you connected to yourself so your mindsets drives the punch. Same way game in dating context you see a woman and now you cant approach, dont know what to say because you are basically operating based on the outside thing that blocks you to connect to yourself ,but when you do connect to yourself you will see that you actually dont know yourself dont know how to be authentic etc. I can make a strong claim you cant relate to people without manipulating, you are just letting things happen spontanousily based on your weak programming thats not you its imposed,s o you have no relationship with yourself so thats why feelings and world will drive your thinking and your actions, you are its puppet. Meta means you look the mind from 3rd perspective like you in a movie theater then you decide what to think not mind manipulating to tell you what to think. I saw for myself that mind is constantly manipulating me thats why you cant grow because its dictating how its going to be. Yeah you can say that but if feelings drives you you are not the one making the framework to operate in.

@BlueOak I mean everyone makes their own understanding of how they gonna understand themselves ,but to get there you need to learn game,you cant truly understand yourself before that because like you are saying you cant understand yourself because mind is literally design to block you from understanding yourself,on deeper level it only allow superficial level and like you said through relating to things like: world is number 1 you number 2,so world decides the framework for you to think in...if world says this is how it is then you can only think based how they set it up... I can see that im relating to you based on how i see you, but i also see that the way i see you is again the way i think in general,so it has nothing to do with you but me.With that logic like you said you only relate to yourself then express it to the outside,thats precisely what game is but mind is blocking it all the time..(with reacting and thinking your thinking is based on the outside while its just your world reacting to what actually is.) Okay then i dont see the meaning and the point of female friend thats the thing in the first place why i started to talk to you because i dont see the point yet.(im open to someone change my perspective,im not stuck in my ways but only if you present something i havent thought about for a longer periods of time and i saw in my direct experience its hurting me, usually people present me Pov that i had for long time, dropped it and now telling me thats the way but i saw its not for me.) Thats a good point why you choose the action and create the meaning from it shows you who you are. Good that you say that your growth need is reduced since relating to the world is truly limited way to understand yourself, if you dont go meta with it so its you who creates the meaning of the world its like you are 50/50 to what im saying. Yes im aware, i talk on here because when i talk and think by writing or talking out loud, i say things that i cant with just thinking, so its a way to hear myself talk so i gain self knowledge. And sometimes like one in a blue moon someone will say something to make me think but its so rare so i use this like a way to talk to myself...

@BlueOak For me the relationship is me sharing the type of relationship i have with myself,so if my standars is i must grow every day, then that person will grow by being with me and then based on that other person chooses what will they do with it and how i set it up,but that depth wont hit with a female friend because im not going to share it with just anyone. That doesnt answer my queastion whats the point just to relate? I have better things to do like figuring out myself for example.. You are not "just there" because they need it that's delusion, you have motives you are not aware of them, that's why i said person seeking female friends is guided by his mind and emotions just because which is not really self actualizing way of living... Im not 100% sure if i get you since is complete opposite of how i operate..

@BlueOak So i understand like if women are in social setting,or in mutual activity setting you interact hang out,but i never understood like why would you hang out with a woman like grab drinks and hear her talk about problems she's having with guys shes dealing with or pick the gift for valentines day what is the point of it.? Like to me it shows you need that psychological human needs from a woman to conpensate for the lack of being a man. Since you are well spoken in writing explain i dont get it...

Easy answer for complicated topic is that you dont have game(dont know yourself) and you dont respect yourself ,so everyone will respect you to a level you respect yourself. Nobody respecting himself would be a friend with a girl he wants. Also discussing anything with people you never disagree or start a debat if you need to do that you just say: "i see this thing differently" and give your opinion...

@numbersinarow I didnt get anything you said 😅 i dont care about blackpill,redpill bs

@mr_engineer Pick a purpose you want to tackle then this will all make sense ,outside of that you are wasting your life on bs called changing people and the world.One day you will figure out that you dont have that power, until you become selfishly selfish focus on yourself to built something of value, all this other stories are for the naives which are nice guys thinking you will change the world by helping because you have emotions for the world and not yourself..Being kind and nice is not a problem but ask yourself this: would you be nice if its not affecting your survival and you not getting nothing out of it? then you are kind but on the other hand you cant be kind if you are not bad. That Jordan peterson quote he used: "its better to be a warrior in a garden then garderner in war" or something like that.Meaning if you cant be violante then you will use kidness as weakness if you are able to hurt others then choosing not to is a virtue...

@Squeekytoy That turns them on as long as you show in the end you have capacity to change,then that journey makes their emotions engaged. Pimps use this to alter emotions by selling them the dream and how their life is boring without them. Because emotions of a woman is engaged by the happy ending like all those romance books againts all odds they end up together...

@Princess Arabia True, i noticed all covert narcissist are nice guys ,because they manipulate their image through being either big belivers in god or some kind of helpers,but its all to gain control over other peoples perceptions and use it later to gaslight, like how dare you say that because see what im doing, see how good i am... @mr_engineer Its not the problem of being either this or that its being able to be an asshole/nice in same person, so i can tell you to fuck off when its needed and being able to listen to you empathicly when its needed. Its relative but the biggest chance to be "succesful" (if we talk about societies way to telling what it is and with women) you have to be really selfish(my notion of selfish is focusing on self and dont care about others its mental switch) and from that you can give but problem with asshole is he doesnt have limits to being an asshole but women love them because they can fix them piece by piece...where if you are a great guy there is no drama to be fixed... That's your problem ,you want to fix the cruel world while not pointing to fix yourself, you dont have privalege to fix anything its for those who are strong in themselves, but again your idea of fixing someone is not what they want(they 9/10 operate in different paradigm where your help is useless) you must just wait for people to ask you for help because if you help them without it, they would not change and in the end you would end up as a fool.. i spent so much time helping as a nice guy that now im disgusted by the notion of helping someone if they dont ask me...

@Schizophonia As far as book says, its because needs wasnt met at early age so belief constructed everything is good if im good...

Nice guy is selfish like everyone else,but unable to see himself as such,he covers it up by being good.It a survival strategy to gain things for himself by helping others,which looks like he is giving but there is secret agenda always when its broken sooner or later it manifest itself in agressive outburst towards a woman leaving her confused because he cant communicate his desires clearly. While not being honestly selfish he falls short again and again,not being able to achieve much in life which makes him unable to give because all he can give is fake kidness and live like a bystander judging assholes because that is part of himself that he hates the most,in the end isolates himself because he cant face the cruel world in front of him because he will need to face himself his own selfisness... Brutal but amazing display of how nice guy is being destroyed by the world and accepting that his own suffering is created by him being weak is in final episode of tokyo ghoul season 1..

As long as you fight to get better its never permanent, you asking this is not a good mindset never give up on yourself.

There is something deep rooted psychological problem to ask about other mens penis and being straight, also sex is mental activity so think about that...

It means shes using you for attention, she is nobody to you,so your attention should be to a minimum...

You will never learn,redpill rotten your mind to the core, that woman wont have a chance to meet you, because you dont give yourself a chance to meet yourself and see all the reasons you are creating a woman you cant stand to see...

@Miguel1 If by game you mean ring around the rosie, around spiderman bunkbed waiting for happymeal to watch your favourite spongebob episode...

@Miguel1 That's fine what i was saying is that if you looking to connect with a woman that's not game if you want to connect to a woman that's fine but actually not in your best benefit=her best benefit @Princess Arabia Look that's fine by me, i wish you find somebody who is going to check all your attributes you are looking for, its not me but me building myself in my own way will be perfect for somebody else...