Angelo John Gage
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This was always something I used to think: If God is simply a giant infinite mind, what if, what he thinks becomes our physical reality. And then I ran into this picture one day...
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Just as you cannot fear fear, you cannot fear death You're fearing the anticipation of death, just like you can only fear the anticipation of fear.
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And how do you know what is this so called will of an absolute infinity? If it had a will that would be finite in nature so it can't really have a will? What if the infinite has infinite wills which are the very infinite egos that exist ?
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The recent videos Leo has been making basically proving everything is ungrounded, including logic has been fascinating. I posted this a while ago that all logic is circular, which was an insight that came to me after watching the strange loop videos. If reality is a strange loop, then anything inside of reality must also be a strange loop, so even logic itself. I myself am a very logical person, as an INTP personality type, that is how I primarily see the world, yet there I saw, my own world be destroyed with the very thing I use lol. It is funny, but sad. The infinite strange loop is essentially this: no matter what level we achieve, we go back to level one, and level one is also the last level. Just imagine that shit, like playing the old Nintendo game Super Mario Brothers, and just running across the screen to pop up on the other side, forever. What a terrible and torturous existence this is. I lately have said to myself, why even exist at all? The utter peace of nothingness before I was born must be way better than being stuck in a strange loop. And the fact I was not asked to come to this existence, is almost like a form of slavery I was put in against my will in hindsight. Of course I had no will when I didn't exist, and I was created to now have one, which apparently isn't mine. I actually partially feel bad I had a child and I hope my son doesn't think like I do about this life. Now I see why these logicians got depressed, some have even killed themselves, and no wonder why these 'idiots' we see in the world, seem so happy. Well maybe it is because they believe the illusion is real! Ignorance seems to be bliss for sure. Yet we came looking for truths and we certainly got them, and here we are depressed as fuck learning it. So now what? We can't even take the blue bill to go back to our ignorance. Is there a happy ending to this post? Depends. Even though knowing the nature of reality sucks, and that literally nothing has any meaning, this allows us to play demi-gods. Since we know this reality is fake, we can "game genie" this bitch and make it how we please. We can assign our own meaning and know that this is essentially the greatest video game we will ever play in. We can write our story as we please and live life however we wish. This is not to say that the matrix won't fuck us up with consequences of our actions, so we have to be careful because we do not control the absolute infinite, nor could we ever even fully control ourselves, as we are infinite. To me, it seems the most logical decision rather than offing ourselves is to make the best of this game, to enjoy maximum pleasure and reduce suffering as much as we can. WE cannot reduce physical suffering, especially if it is inflicted upon us, but we can certainly reduce our own mental suffering, which accounts for most of our suffering. And if we can teach others the same knowledge we have, we can help them do the same, and further level-up this reality....but of course, once we do that, we will be back where were started. Nooses anyone?
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My friend, who was the one who brought the attention of Actualized.org over a year ago, produced a motivational video which features @Leo Gura in it. Figured it would be appropriate to share it here. Amazing visuals in this stuff; he's a very talented young man. Enjoy. https://vimeo.com/user68536890/review/260594097/20105922bc
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Yep
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Angelo John Gage posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is interesting as fuck. Document which discusses remote viewing and trying to obtain higher levels of consciousness in order to collect information without using the 5 senses. They also talk about how this is all a hologram and including the absolute infinity. 29 page read. @Leo Gura CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf -
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Article showing they were trying to get people to see Mars before it died; person claimed it was inhabited by ancient alien race. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pad4a9/the-us-army-funded-astral-projection-and-hypnosis-research-in-the-80s -
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I agree. They mock Sheldrake for his experiments on telepathy and all, while they know this shit is real. I just send this this PDF to him on Twitter, hopefully he gets it. I have a feeling materialism and scientism isn't gonna last much longer. -
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Apparently it is music like this -
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Now I'm looking for their tapes and sounds they used. -
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Confirming what we see when we trip. There are other mentions these beings in the document before as well. -
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Man, they have such high standards.. they didn't get all the numbers lol... But this goes to show that the DoD did successfully figure out how to do this -
Scrap the keto diet, go right to the Carnivore diet. Keto is way inferior because you are using a emergency system (ketones) rather than allowing your body to naturally produce glucose on its own via gluconeogensis from amino acids. but I doubt you're on a TRUE keto diet, because anything higher than 25% of protein intake will kick you out of ketosis. A true keto diet is 90% fat 10% protein; most poeple do 75% fat, 25% protein. Carnivore diet is 50-50 or 45-65, but HIGH protein. You need no veggies or fruits, despite what people claim, but you'll probably eat some anyway. It is a irrefutable fact that we are omnivores, but it is also an irrefutable fact that there is not one essential carbohydrate. To summarize, Keto it is an emergenty system in which you have to constantly worry whether or not you're in it, when its way more efficient to consume enough fats and protein and allowing your body to naturally produce glucose on its one rather than forcing it to use ketones which are switched for survival mode.
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I think the current system of "education" is one to make good slave workers for whatever system is in charge. I agree we should totally be focusing on personal development for each student and then give them the tools to allow them to achieve what they truly want to do in life. However, I do think that the basics like grammar and maths should be fundamental to education.
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Without the stupid ego, how would any of you know this journey?
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There are stark differences between Osho and Sadhguru... Osho to me was a fraud the second he opened his mouth. That is not to say he didn't experience enlightenment or some form it, and it is also not to say its 'wrong' to enjoy material goods and even women, but he turned his spiritual practice into cult rather than how Sadhguru does it. Sadhguru has moved millions in India to plant trees, whereas, Osho accepted millions in cars. Totally different types of people. -
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Yea it is from CIA.gov. but that's not to say they wouldn't make shit up and release it. But I don't see the motive for that scenario. The CIA and all these secret organizations are basically societies within our govt that will do anything to gather Intel. Our own govt experimented on people by injected patients in hospitals with uranium and other radioactive material during the Cold War. Let's also not forget the experiments on the African American pilots with syphilis or whatever STD is was just to see how it works. And as Leo mentioned, things like mk uklra are real but some conspiracy people take it too far. However, when they declassify a document, it is when they realize it would not harm their power; especially when all those people are dead. There are documents even stating how false flag attacks should be committed to start wars, such as Operation Northwoods. We have psychopath pedophiles ruling the world folks and it's only possible due to our complacency. -
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Yep. I just find it funny how I just ran into this after watching yout recent episodes on quantam mechanics and how so much of this terminology I heard you say. They even mention Bohr. Thesebastards will try anything to gain power. -
Then everything within reality is an actual self-perpetuating cycle. Take for example the seasons; the birth and death of stars; life and death itself; stock markets; crops; history even... Although these things may seem to 'change' in different ways, they are all operating in the same "loop" (cyclical pattern). All the details we may observe are simply distinctions and are illusory; contrasts that we use to compare between them to see them as different but are not really much so as they are fundamentally the same kind of change in a different form. Even logic for example is always circular reasoning: A = A because it says so. A + B = C. There is no outside reason that makes any of these true other than our agreed consensus that these symbols representing something that is true. All logic is simply ordered circular reasoning; something that is true seems to "fit" and make the circle complete. Anything "illogical" is deemed not to make that circular completion, yet even something illogical is circular reasoning. All actions are based on emotions as even they go in circular patterns; ranging in different intensities and even having different names, but ultimately either "feel good" or "feel bad"...The circular pattern here exists as we go back and forth from these states, and it seems to never end or even began. All of our actions are emotional because we take our actions based on achieving pleasure and avoiding pain. By avoiding pain we get pleasure, by avoiding pleasure we get pain. Getting pleasure brings us closer to a state of pain; Experience pain brings us closer to a state of pleasure, as no emotion is permanent and thus as times passes, will eventually be replaced by the opposite.
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For me, I think @Leo Gura best videos that had the most impact on my life were The Moralizing videos, Absolute Infinity, and his recent episodes on Self Deception. These three videos series had a profound impact on me because even though I had left Catholosism in my early 20's, the programming of what was 'right' and 'wrong' was deeply embedded in me. Although Leo and I are a probably opposite on the political spectrum, I have realized that even politics is just made up, but is a 'necessary' evil in order to organize what we call society. But at the same time, even labeling politics anything is ego; as it is made up, there is in fact nothing 'right' or 'wrong' about politics or anything we made up at all other than it is not reality. But at the same time, it exists in a mental reality that we created, which is a psuedo-reality/virtual reality of the mind of our species. In regards to "shoulding" or 'right' and 'wrong', where I once considered anything claiming to be "relativism" as post- modern Marxist ideology pushed to destroy the West, Leo does a great job breaking the deluded thinking of Western philosophy, but at the same time, as he may not realize, also breaks down Eastern philosophy. In fact, I think Leo's entire philosophy is a non-philosophy: the same way I have come up in my own thinking is the Philosophy of Nothing. This is the position which I am currently and naturally transitioning to myself into as I continue to shed old beliefs. Nothing is more powerful than" anything, as "any" thing is bounded while "no-thing" is not. But paradoxically, at the same time, "nothing" cannot do "anything." Essentially this is what I got out of the Absolute infinity videos which were a great way to imagine "God" but also making you realize it is impossible to imagine at all. Both Nothing and Anything are compliment and make up their respective flaws and distinctions, which of course, we made up and don't actually exist. What I took from his series on Self Deception (which I might add I enjoy Leo's humble approach to himself) is that, we would all be insane to believe we could ever be masters at anything. Anyone who claims to be a guru or a master is more deluded that any un-awakened human. Why? Because I think a master, teacher, or whatever, should know the fundamental truth learned by being enlightened that: There is no final level, thus mastery or anything is just another attempt by the ego to make a distinction between someone who is aware and unaware. My argument is that the more aware you are, that way less deluded about your own belief that you know anything at all becomes understood. That is what I took from the self deception series which I find was a great series. I've concluded from all this that there is no further reason to chase being enlightened; in fact, you cannot ever BECOME enlightened. you can only EXPERIENCE it. Furthermore, all you can ever do is experience anything, as life is ONLY an experience. And it has many forms of experience, in fact, INFINITE forms which NONE can be described with words ever. You cannot even describe the taste of your food, even when someone else tastes the same food and agrees that it is "good" because we can never experience their taste of the same food they are experiencing, from their experience. How can you know that person is tasting the same way you are and that their 'good" is the same good as yours? In other words, even if we obtained "enlightenment," our experience would only be limited to our perspective and could never be identical to someone else's experience. And as Leo pointed out, the Absolute infinity has INFINITE ways that can never be reached, thus, NO ONE can ever be fully enlightened, can never know God, and anyone who claims to know God or be enlightened in full of shit. So I use the term enlightened here to describe the UNDERSTANDING of this by reaching a limited experience of the so-called unlimited, which in of itself is limited by that set experience. We can only experience our fraction that we are in the entire part of the Whole. Even if we saw the "Whole" we are only seeing it from our perspective which in fact is only a sliver of the whole. In other words, we are always going to have bias and the ability to only see from our own eyes, experience from our own experience, and no one else's, thus never being able to see the Whole as the Whole, which is why there are infinite levels, because the infinite levels are composed of all the other infinite experiences possible that we cannot ever be. So is there a point to further continue enlightenment? I believe the answer is no. Because once you "get there", and learned that you will never get there, cannot ever get there in the final sense, or ever BECOME IT; just glimpse at it and simply experience it, the rest of the attempts to go to it either become a form of escapism, or just sheer addiction to get there and see it over and over for you own pleasure, or to try to learn something else to add to your egoic memory. I think the main point of becoming enlightened is to reduce your own suffering and you do this by learning you are not the ego. But ironically, even that can cause suffering. I believe this can be achieved with even ONE experience; maybe others need 1000 times, but I think this is the fundamental truth we are looking for. Enlightening to me is removing the delusions of the ego so you can return to this shared reality and "lighten up" and continue to experience your human form in a better way. That is why many people who achieve enlightenment simply laugh or cry in tears because its so simple and the reason why it is so mind-blowing is because what is seems to be is that it is nothing, which is like a giant joke no one expected lol. But then again, that is only ONE perspective that is nothing; the other is that it is everything! As Leo pointed out, some people go on 40 year journeys to become enlightened and can never get there. Leo can take some LSD or whatever on video and melt right before us; reaching it in 10 minutes, but even that is only a faction of it. NO ONE can ever reach it fully. So for me, I think Actualized and Leo's work is phenomenal. Although I'm not a fan of the cult-like and the Leo-worship vibe I get here from some followers, which he clearly speaks against in his videos, I believe he did a great job actually pushing forward thinking to the next level. He may be humble by about his own work, but I see an even deeper meaning perhaps he is unable to express in words? But I get what he is truly saying. Or do I? Maybe he does not even know how profound and simple it is; maybe he does? But all I know is that for myself I have taken what I have learned here and realized even more that maybe even taught here. And that I think is what true teachings can do; they teach the student to leave off where the sensei began. Sensei means "the one who came before" and I think it is a delusion to think that a Sensei cannot be surpassed by his student, in fact, if he is not, he has failed. I believe everything is evolution; the physical, of the mind, of the spiritual, and if the absolutely infinity is true, then nothing can ever be fully realized and that is the ultimate truth. Our job, as so-called "enlightened" people or those on this path, is to realize that we are here to pass the baton of evolution to the next generation on this infinite path, knowing that our teachings and our realizations will only be a stepping stone to the next level, which is on a infinite staircase that is ultimately a strange loop. Knowing this I think is what enlightenment is; but even the dumbest person you can talk to may even reach this conclusion and tell one of us looking for God this simple truth and laugh at us saying, "How can you ever know God?" Even the most devoted, deluded Christian will tell you he is unknowable, unimaginable, indescribable. So in a sense, even the unawakened or the most ignorant can say something true; the only difference is that they didn't experience this for themselves and are simply parroting their beliefs which they did not obtain by experience. So to summarize, for me, this all boils down to KNOWING that you have EXPERIENCED what the fuck you are talking about; or at least THINKING you have via an experience, only to know that even THAT isn't all of it, and thus, the mind-fuck never ends, nor will it ever end, and knowing this, I feel, is enlightenment is simply that. I am not discouraging anyone to stop meditating or learning; but just to know, whatever you do learn or achieve, there is always more and to think you ever reached anything but another unique experience, will have up ending up thinking you are holier than thou or are "finished" which is even worse off than you left off; as many of these so-called godmen or gurus we see act or claim to be like, when they in fact are not anything but the limited sliver than can ever be in regards to the whole.
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@Nahm But even when we apparently experience the Absolute, we are seeing it from our perspective. For example, when we reach those infinite rooms where we can see geometry and things moving, we are seeing it from that point in which we can see its vast infinite nature; thus we became only part of the Absolute which allows us to see the other parts which are not at our point of experience. To explain this: Imagine for some reason you were seeing from your fingers, and pointed to look at your face to see your eyes; you are still part of the Whole (body) yet seeing itself from a different angle. You have become your eyes, but are elsewhere observing your own eyes but are no longer your eyes. You know that you cannot see your own perspective, just like God cannot go outside of himself to see himself, because there is nothing outside of himself...so is it with seeing the whole, you cannot do it. You can only experience YOUR part of the whole, which can be a part but never all parts simultaneously, because you cannot go outside of yourself to do that.
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Because Ideas drive actions. The concepts which do not exist anywhere but in our minds, drive us to move in this reality, thus making the concept real, but never manifesting the concept itself; only a physical representation of it.
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@Joseph Maynor But check this out: Reality contains conceptual "truth" right? I was thinking this the other day... Our thoughts ARE real, they are just never manifested; and as Leo would say are hallucinations, but so is reality. Yet they exists in the form of thoughts, which is different than what is realized in "physical" reality. But even physical reality doesn't exist, apparently. So it as if the entire reailty is a thought, which is conceptual, but has "manifested". So I can say that Pink Unicorns don't exist, but they do in your mind. And if it is in your mind, it is in this reality, because your mind is part of this reality, is it not? Think about this: How does a thought such as Communism spread and affect "reality" if it only exists as an idea in our heads?
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@Leo Gura Not at all. I say to stop "chasing" enlightenment as if there is a final stage to get there, and to basically know all the work we do, whether its 40 years of meditation of tons of trips, we will only come back to pass on the baton to the next phase of evolution of mankind. I'm specifically talking about what you preach against: how people begin to worship their gurus or whatever, thinking they have all the answers. What I state here is the enlightenment, to me at least, is the understanding that it can only be experienced and never FULLY achieved by anyone because of its infinite nature. So whatever trips you are on, notice theere are never the same and there is always more to learn. How is this possible? Because no enlightenment is total; it cannot be if it is infinite in nature. Take yourself for example; by your own words you have achieved different insights than 2000 years of Greek Philosophy, but even you have more to learn. In fact, you know you cannot ever fully realize perfection in your learning process. Any mastery, once achieved, will find another level waiting above. Mastery cannot ever be achieved unless there is a finite level of levels to achieve it. You know this to be true, otherwise you would just stop now. So to put it in a better analogy, we can see the Matrix; but what we see form our experience is still only part of it, and when we return, we only come back to upgrade it with our part of the experience. Neo can only see it from Neo's eyes; Morpheus from his... You can see it from Leo's eyes, I can see if from Angelo's eyes. In other words, we are all collectors of experience and all we can do is share our experiences with each other. Because how can you even know if your "enlightenment" is the same as Buddah's or whoever's; just like how would you know if we taste the same ice cream flavor the same?. All we can do is share our experiences from our perspectives; and this continues forever. By no means do I mean stop learning or quit, and by no means do I mean stop your work.