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@Shin Goddamnit, made her oegasm three times using my fingers, but my dick never really went fully hard, even with viagra. Haven't been taking care of my diet, exercise and sleep the last couple of days. Even though she came three times and I came twice by rubbing my 70% hard penis up and down her vagina, I can tell that she wants me to fuck her. Doesn't really matter if I can work my magic with the fingers, she wants the real deal. Not even viagra helped me get hard Great night nontheless, but I gotta get back and hit the gym. Get those testosterone levels up.
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@Shin She's coming over tomorrow. Jesus Christ, we had amazing sex last time. Wouldn't have been able to go through it without NoFap and Leo's video on sex, and perhaps viagra, but I think I'll be able to do it without viagra tomorrow. We had great intimacy last time. This is why I couldn't ejaculate when I lost my virginity to a prostitute 5 - 6 weeks ago. The genuine intimacy wasn't there and for now, that is exactly what I need to be able to perform.
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UPDATE: DAY #35 Read my previous post first. So the day started out as it was supposed. Just watching a movie, talk a little after and bond, kiss and be intimate with each other. Then I was supposed to drive her home. Well, we watched the entire movie, she was looking so sweet and pretty thst evening so I just had to hold her hand gently move my fingers in circles on her hands. We watched The Conjuring so we were close to each other all the time. We had a few glasses of wine, and towards the end of the movie I started to place my hand on her leg while scratching her arm with my nails. Aftet placing my hand on her butt and gently kissing her a few times on her face, she started making out with me. And boy, that was a crazy make out session. Around 30 - 40 minutes of foreplaying. I tried to remember as much as I could from Leo's "how to have amazing sex" video and boy oh boy did his video help! At times I remembered "eye contact dude" and "you're kissing her, grab her on the ass you coward." But how, the few tips Leo says in the video with the greatest result in getting a woman wet as fuck, is kissing/licking the neck and gently blowing, and touching on the breast around the nipple area without touching the nipple. She was extremely sensitive there. I could've done more dirty talking though. Now my dick didn't work too well but this is her night. I'm doing this for her. Decided to give her an orgasm with technique Leo talks about in his squirting video. Now this is after about 40 minutes of intense fore play, I was super excited to give her an orgasm becausr she told me I'm teasing her so much that she's driving me crazy. I insert my finger and start pumping. She moans and can't control her body movement at times. I can tell she enjoys this. But after 1.5 minute I'm pumping so fast that my arm cannot take it anymore. She doesn't cum but it felt good. After a while I try again, same result. She then confides in me that it's been years since she had sex and that it's hard for her to get an orgasm and that she's used to stimulate her clitoris so I try doing that, no orgasm. I tell her my dick isn't working properly right now but by then we've been on it for an hour and she's somewhat satisfied. We get up from the couch after having some deep conversations and move into the bedroom. We shower before doing so. Instead of sleeping, we make out and we're instantly excited for us again. Eventually I cum after being jerked off and I told her that I'm positive I can make her cum aswell. So we foreplay for a good fiften minutes. Pussy is wet and I start the pumping. She says she's close now and tells me not to stop, I go even faster and ignore the muscle pain. Eventually she cums and her body moves uncontrollably. Tje best orgasm ever she said. Holy fuck I thought, I'm a 26 year old virgin (not counting sex with a hooket at the age of 25) and she's been saying how crazy I make her and that I was the one who gave her the best orgasm. We sleep for about three hours, wake up and kiss. She wants to ride me and I agree. I move my hips up and down while she rides me, se genuinly moans and I cum inside her after about a minute. I tell her sorry but she makes me so hot I couldn't delay it for even a second.
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I think my problem with not being able to get an erection was that with the two women I've been in bed with before, I just didn't find them attractive. It was just a one night stand... a ONS without penetration lol. When I slept with a prostitute a little over a month ago, I took some viagra and managed to stay hard most of the time, and even though she was beautiful and all and super into the whole experience, I just couldn't connect with her with everything being, you know fake and all. But now, over a month without porn or masturbation, and getting to know I girl the past three weeks or so, I'm starting to really like her. Perhaps that's what I need. A deeper connection. Intimacy, because we both show eachother affection and we care for each other. I asked her just now if she wanted to come over to my place tomorrow to watch a movie. I made it clear that it's just a movie and chilling out, nothing more. I told her we'll save that for later. We were supposed to have dinner outside tomorrow but I felt it would lower the guard down for me if she's already been to my place and that we can watch a movie, hugging and lying down close to eachother and of course kissing which we've been doing since the first date. I'll also add some touching this time but nothing more. Just a fun date at my place to increase our intimacy a bit and she said she's totally down to spend the evening with me and save the real "movie-watching" until Sunday as planned. In Leo's video on how to have amazing sex, he makes a point that you shouldn't be memorizing all the things he said if you're not experienced with girl. Start slow and work your way up. Kissing isn't a problem though althought I could add some more touching and kiss more pationatelly. So I'll start out just like Leo said. I was raised in a home without love so I'm pretty emotionally detached, way more than what's healthy. And I like this girl and want to start off slow. Update tomorrow evening! I'll also see how my dick reacts, if I can get a boner just by doing some foreplay, sensual touching, kissing/licking on the neck etc.
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Hopefully yeah. I'll give an update on how it goesm Can't belive I've been on NoFap for over a month with pretty much no desire to watch porn or fap. Hitting the gym tonight. Stay strong people!
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@Shin Elaborate.
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33 days in now. On Sunday I'll have female company at my place. We've been seeing eachother for about three weeks now and the sexual tension is extremely noticable. Now this will be the first time having sex, not counting the prostitute I visited a month ago, and also not counting the few times I've been in bed with women without getting it up. Got some viagra ready to go this time and I'm watching Leo's video on how to have amazing sex. Kinda nervous but whatever.
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@Shin Yeah, feeling really good about myself. A month in and haven't had any urges at all. More energy, I'm thinking clearer and my dick can fully erect just by thinking about kissing my date. Never in my life has my dick been more alive. My problem is this. I've been watching lesbian porn since a little teenager. My brain has been wired so I cannot feel a sexual urge when I'm with bed with women. Now granted, the three times I've been in bed with women was when I recently had watched lots of porn and I wasn't in a NoFap streak. So next weekend my date will come over. By then I'll be almost seven weeks in of NoFap. And I'll be with a girl a like, a girl I find beautiful, smart and sweet. When we kiss it feels intimate so I guess I'm attracted to her. My best approach would be to follow what Leo says in his video about how to have amazing sex and I will also try what he says in his video about giving a girl a squirting orgasm. I'm gonna be honest with the girl and say that I have some problems "down there". Then I will take my time with her during the foreplay, make her feel comfortable, tease her. Then use my fingers and give her a few orgasms if I can manage to do so. Pop a viagra pill and pray to God that it works haha. I'll give you guys an update.
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Ten hours away and I'm one month in. 30 days of no PMO, hard mode! My dick is more alive than ever. Raging boners in the morning. Just had my second date with a girl, kissed passionately after dropping her off, and invited her at my place the next weekend. Had a raging boner for fifteen minutes after kissing her. When I got home it finally slacked, haha. Insane. This girl is really into me. She's sweet and beautiful and all, but the problem is that she likes me more than I like her, I'm not that superattracted to her, a little I suppose. I have very little experience with sex, been in bed with two women, couldn't get it up. And I recently had sex with a prostitute in my neighboring country where it's legal. Had really passionate 45 minutes sex with her, took some viagara so I wouldn't have a problem getting a boner. Could never finish with her even though she was a freak in bed and was really hot. Hopefully my PIED will be cured until next weekend so I won't look like a 70 year old man with a cock that doesn't work. It would totally kill the intimacy and trust I've built up with my date, and most of all it would really make her feel bad. She would feel horrible if I can't get it up, like she doesn't "do it" for me. Like someone said earlier to me in this thread. It's best to be honest with her about my issues. Right now I'm trying to direct my energy to my sacral chakra. It really does feel like it makes a difference. But I'm just stressing for no reason. It's not the end of the world of I can't perform.
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24 days in now, feeling strong. I've been dating a girl I like for the past two weeks or so. She's really beautiful and we both know that we're attracted to eachother and that it's time to take it up a notch. I doubt that my PIED is cured by now so it's best to come clean about it. If she can't wait then I wouldn't want her anyway.
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One unexpected benefit I noticed just now is that my penis is much larger when flaccid. It used to be like a frightened turtle. Still no urges, feeling great, staying strong. Going to the gym now to unleash all the energy. My goal is to leave the gym totally crippled ?
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18 days in now. I'm keeping count yes, but I'm not really focused on the days. I know the days because I know when I last PMOed. I'm in this for life. 100 days or 1000 days means nothing for me. It's for life this time. I'm thinking more clearly now, energy has increased. But my goal is not to simply stop watching porn and masturbating. If that's the only thing you're doing, that's just abstaining from it. You're not recovering. I've been improving my diet and hitting it hard in the gym. Funny thing is that I've had no urges. Thoughts of doing it yes, but no urges. Eventually it'll come but screw it. The benefits are worth a million times more than feeling good for ten seconds.
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Alright so day 16 today, going out with a female friend tonight along with a woman I'm sort of dating. 16 days ain't enough for rewiring my brain because it's been like 13 years of PMOing and I've only had sex once, with a prostitute lol, and I couldn't finish with her even though she was gorgeous and was really in to it, doing all kinds of sexy things. I took viagra to avoid ED, but as soon as it was time for penetration my cock slacked. But when she sucked and jerked me off it worked. That says a lot about how sever my addiction is. Because I've been jerking off half my life, the only thing that can get me hard is being jerked off. And because of using the "death grip" on my cock for 13 years I've lost pretty much all sensitivity. I've been in bed with women before and couldn't get it up. But my encounter with the prostitute really gave me the motivation to avoid PMO for the rest of my life. If someone as gorgeous as her couldn't get me to finish I realized I have to do something about it NOW. I did NoFap for 75 days last year before relapsing so I know I have the strength to do this. Especially now when I'm 25 years old and have started dating a girl I like. So enough of PMO and instead enjoying having real sex with someone I like. But 16 days ain't enough to rewire my brain so I can get hard and ejaculate with a real woman. I'm thinking at least a couple of months before I can get aroused by a real woman and get hard down there. Does anybody know if there are some things I can do to redirect my sexual energy which is building up in my body, and redirect it towards getting aroused by real women? You know, just to speed up the process a little. Napoleon Hill talks in his book Think And Grow Rich that you can transmute sexual energy to redirect the energy towards something productive. I'm thinking it might work to redirect the energy towards becoming aroused my women, like why not? But how, is my question. Last night I put on some "root chakra meditation music" and closed my eyes and tried to calm my mind. The root chakra is where the sexual energy is supposedly located. Now, whether chakras are real or not I do not know, and all this sounds extremely new-agey I now, but I'm open to all ideas. If you can think of something please share it with me. The answer sounds obvious though. Stop thinking and worrying and focus instead on your conciousness work and let the days go by and eventually I'll be rewired. But it's hard having to wait several months when I'm seeing a girl I'm interested in and when our culture says that she expects sex on the third date at latest.
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True that. Been in bed with a woman only two times. Couldn't get it up the first time, the second time I couldn't ejaculate. Had a few more opportunities with getting im bed with women but couldn't follow through because I know how it would end up. So I'm doing this to become more disciplined and to get my sex drive back with real women. Even though I'm close to 16 days of PMOing I'm far away from rewiring my brain. Think about it. My brain has been used to PMO for 13 years. Long enough to fuck with anybody's cock and sex drive.
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Tomorrow I'm two weeks in. Felt an unusual good feeling today. Normally quite tired in the morning but earlier today I felt quite good. I'm talking to a girl, someone I met through a female friend of mine. I kinda like her but pmo has totally screwed me up giving me PIED. Hopefully my cock will work properly in a few months.
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Warning: Details may be graphic. So I want to share my "success" story on how I lost my virginity today at the age of 25, turning 26 in a month. Never had a girlfriend but have dated two women who were both fond of me but I never cared for them. At the age of 22 I came really close to a colleague at work but I could never tell her how much I really liked her, I think she had some feelings for me but I couldn't know for sure. I was a pussy basically and could never express feelings or be sexual with her. I feared coming off as a complete fool if she replied "I like you as a friend." Lesson lesrned though, will never do the same mistake again if I ever find someone who I care for as much as I did for her. I had a troublesome childhood, deep rooted trauma, and have steadily improved my game/social skills quite a bit and grown as a human being a lot and raised my conciousness the last few years. Much thanks to Leo and his videos. But I think I have a fear of intimacy, mostly due to my past and probably because I still suffer from a little anxiety and self-esteem issues although it's nowhere near as much as it was a few years ago. Nowadays I feel more masculine, happier and confident and take greater care of my body. But I don't have a large social circle and I rarely go out so I don't get a chance to meet women. My first encounter with a female in bed was at the age of 22 when me and a friend went out with two girls. She didn't attract me physically so I couldn't get my dick up. During the foreplay and kissing I was hard, but as soon as she touched it, it never went hard again so we gave up. Didn't come as a surprise though since I had been jerking off to porn for 10 years at that point so how could this overweight female attract me compared to all the porn actresses? Did have a few more shots I easily could have taken with the women I dated last year but didn't feel an attraction to them as well, so never wanted to go all the way so I cut them off completely before we even talked about having sex. Three days ago, I had a friend over and two women. One of them definitely super hot, we all took some MDMA. The hot woman wanted to get all cozy with me. The problem was that she's super experienced and I'm, well not at all. We hugged and touched and I was basically a pussy not being sensual enough so she said I made everything feel weird. But being high off of MDMA I told her how perfect she was and how beautiful she was which made her fall in love with me (because of her MDMA high). I could have easily slept with her, she even asked me to touch her down there and I complied but after a minute I stopped. How could I possibly have an orgasm or even get it up if all my brain is ever used to is having orgasms by jerking off to pixels on a screen. I had some viagra on hand but she being experienced and I'm not, well, it felt as if I would lose my face if I took it further. I've watched Leo's videos on how to have amazing sex but all I could think of is how embarrased I would appear by having sex with an experienced super gorgeous 24 year old woman, with me almost turning 26. She would compare me with all the other dudes before her. All I could think off basically and my monkeymind made me stressed the fuck out. So for the last few days I've felt miserable about yet again fucking it up. And this time it was with a beautiful girl with a gorgeous body. Living in Sweden where prostitution is illegal is actually no problem since I only have to take a one hour train ride to Denmark where it's perfectly legal. So I said fuck it, there's no right or wrong. Morality is just a product of our ego. I knew exactly what brothel to choose and read some great reviews about this woman who always gives the clients the best she can offer. She seems really into it like she's totally comfortable with her job. It turned out that all the reviews were spot on. So I call and make an appointment. Take the train and then a cab to the brothel. I came there half an hour early and sit in the room and wait. An hour before I took some bensodiazepines to calm me down and drank a tiny amount of vodka to boost my hornyness, along with two viagra pills to ensure that I don't spend money down the drain by not even getting it to work. I know I know, stupid, would've been bettee going completely sober but I wasn't zoned out or anything. I had jerked off to porn five days ago and I've been trying NoFap on and off for five years with no success so I felt I needed all the help I could get, hence the pills and one shot of vodka. So she walks in, super happy with a big smile, in her late thirties, and I immediately feel comfortable in her presence. We talk a little and I say I'm not experienced at all and that I chose her because I've read some excellent reviews about her online. 250 dollars poorer, she tells me to take my clothes off and to lie down on the bed until she comes back after a shower. Very comfortable setting, nice round bed, music, comfortable pillows. She comes back a few moments later and we do all kinds of things, she sucks, I lick, I finger, she rides, I grab her hard all over her body, suck on her titties and we make out super passionately. I basically do my very best and it feels so natural because of her great personality and humor. She gives me an oil massage, I give her one as well. I could get a boner when she sucked and jerked me off and when we made out and touched our bodies. But as soon as it came down to penetration, it slacked, even though I took two pills of viagra! No matter what she did I could never orgasm and this woman knew exactly what she was doing. Had it been someone else they wouldn't last more than five minutes with all the things she did. After our time was up I told her about my problems and that it had nothing to do with her, because she asked me if she did something wrong because this usually never happens with her. I told her that I don't care that I didn't finish and that it was worth every penny just to cross the barrier to embrace intimacy rather than being afraid of it all my life. I tried to apply the things I've learned from Leo's video about sex, that I shouldn't be in my mind, to surrender, be in the moment and so on. But I learned a lot though even if I didn't finish. Making out is nothing hard, it's fucking easy lol. Always wondered if you had do have some super-duper awesome technique. (I have made out once before this though, but this time it was awesome) I learned that I need to focus on letting go, stop watching porn, stop jerking off, that foreplay plays a huge part in getting aroused. There's really nothing to be afraid off and I could have easily done it without the bensodiazepines. It just feels so great to finally know that I can be comfortable in bed (as long as the woman is so as well, if not then I know it's my job to make her feel comfortable). I just need to rewire my brain to be aroused without porn. So I need some thoughts here from you guys. I'm thinking of the following: - Never watch porn or masturbate. - Go to the gym regularly which I do though but could do it more regularly. - Start doing some cardio along with my gym routine. - Eat cleaner, meditate, be more conscious throughout the day. - Meeting women somehow and just start working my way up, even if I lose my face with the first few women. Start slow by practicing foreplay and kissing. Then take it up a notch by mastering oral/fingering skills, and how to make a woman aroused without even touching the genitals.
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You are correct that someone who's inexperienced shouldn't lecture a person in the field of sex/intimacy/relationships, and I wasn't trying to lecture you, it was more sort of an attempt to showcase that in my own personal opinion (my perspective doesn't have to be true of course) having money doesn't resonate with my beliefs. Like I said in my quote earlier it would be interesting if you elaborate because I'm open to everything but it'll probably be hard to convince me that having a lot of money attracts women. Practically no woman wants someone who's broke and have no prospects, obviously. So money does play a part of course. From my own experience I actually HAVE heard a woman say that she wants a man to have a well-paid job, but at the same time she mentioned five other qualites she looks for in a man and I just find it hard that having a well-paid job was the top priority in her list, above loyalty, humor and being responsible. And there's a difference to "lecture" someone about sex, when I myself am inexperienced, but "lecturing" about attraction is a totally different topic. From that I can only speak from what I have experienced myself with girls I've dated and flirted with and how my friends attract girls. And they do so by being confident, glowing with charisma and making them laugh, and lots of other things.
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Great post, yes it's true that I gave my all until the last minute. I tried to engage a lot even when she was on top, I moved my hips in sync with her thumping, while gently touching her thighs and so on and so forth. Regarding improving my game, it's true that it won't feel natural for me to become this superconfident heroic alpha dude. My goal isn't to become that type of person, but that's not say that it eventually MIGHT feel natural, should I choose to go down the pick-up culture, which I won't. Like I've improved my confident skills immensely the past few years, improving my game isn't much different. What I do want to improve is my charisma. Being genuine is probably what attracted the girl I dated last year. She even remarked that she hopes I never lose my warmth. And you're absolutely correct that most guys are too focused to "close the deal" within a few dates. A mistake I made myself almost three years ago. Three dates in and not even a kiss. Fourth date, I leaned forward and tried to kiss her and touched her lips, no response. Super awkward for both of us. She seemed exrremely surprised like "hey, the chemistry is not there yet, relax". This was in the beginning of our date, we didn't talk about it while having dinner, later after dropping her off I mentioned that I was sorry for taking her by surprise like that, but that we should get it over with before dropping her off. And she complied. We dated on and off three times in 2017, she seemed interested in me, but I never tried to look at things from her perspective. There could've been a million reasons for being so careful with men. Oh man, how I would love to trade no-ejaculation with premature ejaculation. Starting by giving a girl an orgasm orally or by fingering, only to finish yourself quickly within a few seconds would be OK with most women since you've already pleasured them before penetrating. Problem is that I cum extremely fast when watching porn. If I just master my desires and practice discipline I might overcome my porn/masturbation addiction. Eventually all the thousand porn scenes and porn stars will be a distant memory and I'll be aroused by women "in real life". I'm confident that day will come. I also believe that I need to have a special bond with a woman in order to finish. A woman with good looks and a horny me probaby won't cut it for me, at least not for now. But if I meet someone I feel a deep connection to, I might be able to perform well, especially since I now know that having sex isn't a big deal. If I managed to have a 45 minute passionate session with a total stranger (although with the help of calming pills) I can easily do it totally clean with someone I truly care for. Today's session really removed most of my worries about sex.
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Last year I managed 75 days of NoFap. This goes out to all of you feeling urges right now. It's not worth it. After 75 days, my first jerk-off session really sucked, didn't feel good at all. And then the chaser effect came, trying to achieve that perfekt orgasm. Jerked off four times that time. Starting NoFap once again now, in a few hours I'm six days in.
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I am real. But hey, this thread is about how to step up my game and curing my dick lol. Your suggestions weren't in line with my opinions but I'm open for all tips and tricks. So having better game is one of your suggestions, do you have experience yourself where you've noticed a difference in attraction by applying something different in, let's say, interracting with women? Elaboration is key here man.
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Sure, overanalyzing creates more problems than solving. Having game and good looks definitely helps but money... not at all. Attractive for some women perhaps, but emotions creates love and attraction, not material things. The woman I dated last year could have easily gotten someone way hotter than me. She liked me for being real, honest and not overly attached to her. Believe me when I say that women are definitely attracted when they see a good looking man, but if they had to choose between a boring good looking man with a stick up his ass and a decent looking man with great charisma and personality, she will choose the one who will make her FEEL better.
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Of course I will have to give up the substances, and I will. Psychedelics probably not, rarely use them though, and only for self-inquiry and contemplation. Rarely use any substance nowadays, I was much crazier a few years ago when it came to stuff like that. Had a few benzos lying around and I thought that it could just loosen me up a little, I don't get a rush from those pills. Thinking about it now, I don't think the benzos or the little vodka did anything to help me today. It more likely made it much harder to cum. Did felt like I came close a few times though. But even though I couldn't finish, I learned that being intimate is so incredible and shouldn't be feared. Sure, she was a prostitute but we kissed passionately and our bodies felt connected, and it was worth every penny to cross that mental barrier to prove to myself that I can enjoy intimacy. To erase that background noise in my head that keeps telling me to give up on girls altogether because it's too late. Feel so calm today. I'm going to aim for a clean organic lifestyle and diet. Natural euphoria from exercising, meditating and rock climbing which I absolutely love. I need to love myself more in order to attract love. I have a lot to work on the coming months. Also moved to a new city a few months ago and already starting to expand my social circle. Sure, they're all worlmk buddies, one of them is an ex-colleague though but he keeps in touch from time to time and have been invited to his party this weekend. And I've been hanging out with two girls from work the past month, we've really bonded and share everything together, every little secret. Even been asked by one of them to come and hang out with her and her friends. She's fond of me but only as friends. Even went totally out of my comfort zone a month ago or so and asked a cashier for her number, she told me she had a boyfriend, I told her that's fine give it anyway and she did and I checked out, it was a real number. More or less just practicing to see if I have the courage to cold approach women and go past the I have a boyfriend comment. Oh, and I'm not recommending that virgins go out and have sex with prostitutes. Just because I feel there's nothing wrong with it and I had a great experience, doesn't mean you won't regret it. Truly think carefully if you decide to go down that route.
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Hello So there's a girl at my work who I'm interested in and I find it relatively hard to get close to her in a way that she'll be interested in me. I've seen Leo's videos about dating and relationships and so on so I'm quite familiar with theory but not with experience. I had a similar case at my previous job and I got really close to that girl but I really screwed it up with her. We constantly spoke to eachother, during work and after work. The thing is that our aytraction came really natural with her. But being the pussy I was back then I never closed the deal with her because of overanalyzing and such. This time around, with the girl at my current job, it's a little different. We've spoken only a few times and she works one floor above me so I rarely see her, only during lunch and coffee breaks. Any tips are welcome so she might open her eyes for me. Humor and being non-needy are some things I've learned from Leo. But how should I approach her? Just random talks, being edgy and flirty? It seems like it's a bad thing to come on to hard. But just talking to her won't do much for me, at least that's how it feels right now.
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Yeah, it's either one of those things. But I learned something valuable. Asking girls out isn't a big deal. It's only a big deal if I allow it to be. I've decided to start approaching girls a lot to get better with them. Like the journey Leo once had. Quite an exciting activity
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OK so I tried something new. Something I have never done before. Across the street from where I work I usually go there to buy a cup of coffee and there's this cute girl working there. After a few times, we start small-talking a little and she seems adorable. Outgoing, sweet and charming. Today I grabbed my balls and said f*ck it. I went there with intent to get her number. We talk a little and I make a move. "We should hang out sometime" I said. She says she has a boyfriend. I jokingly say I have one as well and that we should just hang out, nothing more. She writes down her number, I look it up online. It's definitely her number, not a fake one. But now I'm thinking if I should even shoot her a text. It was the first time I've ever asked a girl out in person so it was great practice. I got something out of it at least. Maybe I should drop the whole thing and focus on my gym-routine, health, meditation etc. Thoughts?