Frylock

"No way to prevent this, says only nation where this regularly happens."

^lol

Who the f cares about this

I've read that his classmates that went to private school with him said he never studied or was serious, and still aced his tests and became valedictorian. I never said he had common sense, though. Him sitting down and eating at a restaraunt at all while the heat was on was pretty stupid and crass.

While it doesn't excuse his actions because lots of other people are suffering and don't murder, I'm sure his excruciating physical back pain had an effect on his mental health. By all accounts, he was a normally functioning dude for most of his life. He cared about his studies and making a positive impact on the world with his privilege, which was admirable. But somewhere along the way, and likely attributed to his mental and physical trauma, he became corrupt and sought revenge to alleviate the pain. He seemed to have quite a high IQ, and sometimes those people can be deadly when they funnel their rage and intelligence into one chaotic package. There's a reason he admired the unabomber, who also had a very high IQ.

Correct, but at least in the short term, it reduces suffering. I get it, if you squash one roach, it won't solve your problem when you have a whole colony of roaches infesting your house. What makes healthcare agencies/executives particularly more tricky to fight back against is that you simply can't not buy their products. If I'm mad at Pepsi, I'll just stop buying Pepsi products. Problem is, everyone needs healthcare for survival, which makes the crookedness of that business more pressure packed and personal for the majority of people.

I wouldn't be so sure that this didn't have an immediate effect. https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem Almost immediately after this murder, Anthem reverses their anesthesia time limit decision. Of course, this could have been planned to be announced regardless due to public backlash, but the timing of it sure was conspicuous.

Pretty interesting read on the background of the suspect. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione.html It seems he had a bad back and was consistently in a lot of physical pain. Makes sense why he would throw away seemingly a luxurious life, the dude was suffering physically which likely contributed to mentally.

People don't tend to bandwagon cold blooded murders. That's why this one is a little more nebulous than the prototypical murderer/victim case. Sure you can call it childish, but in this case, it's someone standing up and knocking out the playground bully who seems to get away with everything. I view the CEO moreso a victim to the corruption of profiting from private healthcare than I do the actual murder. The man just wanted to have a nice career and make money rather than profoundly consider the emotional human impact of his company's actions. When you wrong so many people and they take it on a personal level, the odds increase that someone is going to seek bloody revenge on you. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Yes, I believe since 2021 when the guy became CEO, they became the leader of denied coverage by a wide margin. I agree, but unfortunately, the system is too corrupt and people feel too helpless. There's not much these oppressed people feel they can do, other than cheer on what they perceive as a masked hero. I'm not sure how "civil" our society is when mass shootings are an every day occurrence, children get slain and all the political leaders do is shrug and say "oh well". America is deeply flawed and violent right now and that's not going to change any time soon.

He wasn't just any CEO, but the one of a private healthcare company. Likely, there were several thousands of people that were denied coverage that resulted in suffering and deaths, and the executive figures at the company are directly responsible. Most murder cases are black and white, but this one has quite a bit more grey area. Even before we knew who the suspect was, the majority of people regardless of political affiliation were either praising him or neutral about it. We rarely see that in any murder case. People are straight up tired of the corrupt healthcare system, which led to the CEO becoming a cold blooded murder victim and laughed and mocked for it. It's unfortunate, but also not really that surprising. I feel like we're in a new age of assassination attempts, with the orange idiot almost falling victim as well.

Goddamn, don't see Chads throwing their lives away like that very often.

This is why the democrats will never embrace a populist candidate that will rail against private healthcare. They're simply getting paid off. It's an easy ticket to winning voters, but CEOs have them in their back pocket, and thus must restrain themselves to milquetoast messaging.

Gang/drug related murders never get the same publicity because most average citizens aren't involved in illegal street crimes, and violence in those types of lifestyles is expected. When it's someone with white collar power or a political figure, clearly the victim of a surprisingly well planned out and meticulous plot, it catches more attention. If this was just a random act of violence, this guy would have already been caught. But he did his research and "one-upped" the authorities, at least for now. Sprinkle in a potential red herring or motive with the deny, defend, depose bullet casings, and there's going to be more intrigue.

The victim was a rich and powerful white man, that probably has some influence. But aside from that, how many premeditated, targeted murders happen out in the open like this in that area of NYC? I would assume not many. I think the gunman wanted this though, he wanted the sensationalism and spotlight. If it was behind closed doors in not such a populated place, and not caught on camera, it probably wouldn't get the same level of coverage.

Double posted on accident.

You do make a fair point. The CEOs, corporations, and rich oligarchs are all incredibly corrupt and have always held society back, and yet politicians don't talk about it. At most, Democrats will say "Republicans want to make tax cuts for the rich, not you!" That doesn't really land well, as we've learned. The country may finally be ready for a left wing populist, but who knows. Certainly, the majority of Americans regardless of political views feel the pain from our corrupt healthcare system, hence why this assassin has almost universally been viewed sympathetically as a hero.

That could just as easily be a red herring. Although I think it's more likely that it was either just some disgruntled guy or a fanatic who thought he was doing the right thing. Either way, I think it's fair to say that these assassinations and assassination attempts are only going to become more frequent as time goes on. Security and bodyguard business is going to be booming.

Men can be just as needy and fear being alone just like women. But I think men are more apt to embracing becoming a lone wolf. People suck, we all know it, the less we deal with people over the long term, the better. I don't think women on average have that hardened of a view.

With all the political fuckery going on, climate change, and widening gap between the upper class and everyone else, feels like we're on a quick path to WW3, aka a nuclear humanity reset button.

Never stop fighting the good fight, even if it ends with you being lynched or in a concentration camp.

All part of the plan to throw hand grenades into the system and cause chaos and derision.

Matt Gaetz drops out for AG. What a complete and utter clown show this has been, and the fat orange doofus isn't even in office yet.

If that was how you felt, then it was fine. I didn't think it was particularly misguided or malicious, it's a valid remark about what may lie ahead.

They'll eat the rich before anything else. Has happened throughout history. Look at France.