Pointer

Dear Sir, what is the secret of skillful living?

Nice, now I know how to make my ego trip! better quit this right now bye forum

Don’t know where that came from but it made sense though, didn’t it? like emotionally, if that’s what emotions are I don’t know, but I do, I THINK

Oh my. God its even me on the first page of that dependence is the sweet taste of milk Wake the fire tiger in me licking up every last word of Logician profile.PDF home *rrrrrrroooooaaring* run

I’m INTP also

I really like this topic, I’m going to make it my signpost for measuring how spiritually developed a person is.

Satan to God Satan- “so how is that enlightenment going” God-“I don’t know anymore, cant seem to get the time these days with all that’s happening in the world” Satan -“Tell me about it”

@sleeperstakes academic, word man! depends on it being turquoise! a color with a vibe to IT

I think the main point is to know you have to go to the source material. You always have to go to the source material. By definition, the source is the authority. For me forums like these are for people to express themselves as the source of everything, so that slowly we can change the system so that authority can start doing its job and maintain inner truth as the source. we should put information out there so people can go to the source if they want to or claim their own inner source. There is always more room for love. let it flow

I start by considering the place I am in life, my life situation. Leo has said “awareness alone is curative”, I think this is important for *integral* at yellow I except to see a healthy, integrated life where it’s obvious that I am a person of integrity. Can I keep a promise, do I fulfill my purpose, and so on? thats a good excercise anyways, because when I didn’t find a healthy, integrated lifestyle this practice helped to lift some burden off my shoulders

I also like that map, it maps to everything. Except Leo pointed out that we can’t map to everything so it isn’t except it is so it isnt except it is exception overload! everyone go for the life boats time is running out! *alarm sounding* *people running* -hey, did they say time was running out? -yeah! -but I can’t see time running anywhere? -look at your watch, do you remember what time it was when they sounded the alarm? -yeah you’re right, time has been running! *suddenly the life boats run out of space, it’s all spacetime remember?* -go for the water! *Man jumps into the ocean* -who was that? - don’t worry it was just pointer, he always does that

@NahmI’d say we have coral pretty much covered now in this thread? Start with an open question and then narrow the answer down to include everything.

@HII I like language so I take in a lot of different sources and then I try to be creative how I express myself. I’d say my main source is imagination, but I’m sure that’s not the answer you were looking for? I guess if I kept track of everything I wouldn’t be able to be as creative. I really like how Leo talks about how infinity doesn’t map, because if it did it would “restrict itself within limits”, which by definition it doesn’t.

@Leo Gura @HII SOURCE pointer on the forum mapping across the far shore remains drifting in the ocean

@Kallan @HII By the way if you listened to Leos videos he says infinity/nothing is at coral, enlightenment “itself” is at turquoise and self-actualization “itself” is at yellow. The ego (i.e. people) has to go he says.

@HII what I gave was a stage red account, do what you like with it ok? You won’t find much better, and by the way, if you “fit right into yellow” you’re probably blue NOT yellow. Once again, that’s red speaking. I can go on but that doesn't make my point any clearer.

I can say what the spiral stages of turquoise and coral looks like from stage yellow, turquoise and coral but not explain how to understand them. Turquoise from yellow: looks like unrealistically accurate visionaries, like they have destiny on their sides, master storytellers coral from yellow: looks like genius-level in everything they do, unreal impact on their surroundings turquiose from turquoise: life is a rollercoaster you just gotta ride it coral from turquoise: that’s one hell of a ride coral from coral: it is what it is

I don’t know if Ken Wilber said anything specifically on the topic, but I’m taking my view from what I think he’d say. The ladder is relative. From the bottom you seem to be in the middle, it as at beige-blue that the idea of a ladder is formed. In orange-green, where you and others are on the ladder is relative. At the top (yellow-turquoise) the concept breaks down and new concepts are formed, such as where you are on the spiral is independent of the existence of a stage. For example, there are people at 3rd tier without there being a 3rd tier. My conclusion is that there are as many turquoise people as you could possibly count (beige-blue). Problem is once you finish counting the number has changed completely (orange-green). This is at the lower stages on the ladder (yellow-turquoise).

@Aquarius wrath, pride, udhacca-kukkucca, lack of reinforcement, remorse and guilt are some of the names given for such mental state, state of affairs that are called mentally unhealthy, sins or barriers to empowerment. this is a list of advice on how to overcome, sufaccate, get rid of this from various sources: learning-by-doing seeking a mentor keep order by imposing a structure Seek good company avoid bad conversation Make yourself accountable set up goals and follow up through experimentation practice mindfulness Open the dan tien chakra: Meditate on the value of giving wholesome feedback be blessed!

@Brsczkv @Nahm My answer can be too assertive for you. As Nahm said, the answer can be more subtle. May you RECIVE the right thing for you, alright!

Get the dash cam AND start practicing a healthy driving habit. Otherwise, stop driving that car.

@Annetta it is amazing, so much love that we so easily forget about!

@Angelo John Gage @Cepzeu I understand what you are saying now Angelo and you are correct Cepzeu it is a matter of how we define “conciousness”. Free will is found in conciousness, but it is not conciousness. To understand, we have to take enlightenment as the place where free will is found. Then we can see that “free will” is enlightenment and it no longer becomes relevant to talk about free will in conciousness in those terms. However, the “description of free will” in conciousness is very theory heavy and difficult once we go back to depend on our understanding. A very short version is that what happens (in the modern paradigm) is that we don’t take enlightenment into account when we describe free will. This leads to a paradox because we divide conciousness into two parts and place free will in one part of conciousness. Thus the hard problem and 50/50 free will. The solution has already been given and can be found for example in the Abhidhamma. Short of reading enough of that to get the understanding, understand that “free will” is enlightenment but enlightenment is not how you “understand free will to be”.

@Angelo John Gage Well, a robot finds itself in many different ways. Best I can do is to say that it finds itself by having the properties of a robot, taking into account its parts and accounting for them as what gives it the intention to be a robot.

@Nahm @Angelo John Gage Intention is to know what you are per definition? Free will is finding that you have found yourself. All has free will, intending to be as it is? We live in a beautiful world.