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It still amazes me how long it takes people to develop… if you were truly conscious then you would see this as a positive no matter which perspective.. Leo it’s about time you talk about trauma and projections because people are stuck in survival trauma loops which could last a lifetime and it’s time they stop deceiving themselves because this shits getting outa hand… spirit is asking for help… because until you are conscious you are serving your ego in whatever selfish way it wants and spirits getting a little bit fed up with it…. If you are a fool you will get left where you decide to stop, if that’s because of fear then take action to get stronger. How far can we push ego until every single mind can see the same thing?/?
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I have reached a level of consciousness which is in full trust with creation, it is a balance between pushing and receiving and everything that is occurring is in constant communication as God… I can ask experience any question and without doubt I will receive the answer instantly if I push nature far enough…. This can be problematic as it has the ability to destroy worlds ultimately or in my personal case rebuild into something more harmonious. If people only realised the magnitude of what we actually are… like everything that is experienced….. then they’d realise that nothing is impossible, hence the disbelief… what??? you think you can’t ask the universe a question directly and it’s not gonna respond even though it’s infinity intelligent… holy shhh
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The trap of thinking we can define consciousness… too often I see absolutists in their beliefs and it’s isolating
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BetweenTwo replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If you were more loving you’d have a deeper capacity to understand other and as a result you’d realise that all of the love you previously wanted under conditions was just your personal agenda to maintain control… learning how to love the things you don’t understand is the first step into deeper connection -
As brief as possible; Few weeks back I was out camping on the back of my Ute which I have a mattress to sleep on under the stars. With a mild dose of lsd and psilocybin, I induced myself into an altered state of awareness via breathwork, this breathwork ended up lasting for over 2 hours until the ‘sequence’ had finished and incorporated over 50 different methods or styles of breathing to help keep me grounded or conscious enough to remain in the body. (I don’t know more then like 2 techniques so this was deeply interesting) As this begun my body began spiraling through a 360 degree range of motion which ultimately was an unwinding of my body… I have multiple injuries and a fusion in my L5 vertebrae to one side of my pelvis so I take bodywork and health pretty seriously.. At one point I was hanging off the side of the Ute, upside down with two friends holding my legs as they helped me for the first time open up my spine an fusion in such a way that I couldn’t normally or naturally do myself. I realised I had to get on the ground and keep doing the work…. The breathwork was so intense that at points I was like roaring with my face in the dirt whilst I was stretching through the ‘sequence’… it was really fascinating because whilst I was 100% conscious of every single aspect within my environment, I was barely able to keep hold of my attachment to body…. I had to constantly fight to stay within this realm of awareness and if you could imagine a body stretching on the ground methodically for like two hours slowly unlocking through each restriction.. each injury.. it was really confronting for others around me. My muscles would stretch until they where at full capacity and with full mobility and rang of motion, if you could imagine every single position you could think to put your body through… I had to work through that… there was this one point where my left leg was being raised and was being pulled by what felt like LITERALLY THE UNIVERSE… it’s not as if I wanted to continue the sequence at times…. It was so completely fatiguing but I resolved with spirit to take control into healing process. My body was being contorted and pulled through the spiral and it was at that moment that I realised and understood what Leo had said about the “placing of the hand in the fire analogy”… like I felt unlimited with strength and courage and that the higher purpose of unlocking the body at the sacrifice of the hand (if it was to pass through a fire throughout the “sequence”) would be a beautiful and painless thing to obvserve. Before I came to that realisation there was a barbed wire roll, rolled up on its side about 2 meters from the Ute on the ground, it was dark and I didn’t know it was there when I got off the Ute initially to stretch… but basically my hand snaked it’s way inbetween all of the wires and barbs whilst it continued its stretching sequence spiral in the dirt… people where freaking out but I was so highly conscious in that state that I didn’t get one graze on my skin, even when people tried pulling me out.. it was strange that my body couldn’t be touched or removed from its process. So yeah when I finally understood that I could allow spirit to take control of my body and irregardless of what was occuring external to my being.. I would be fine… it was the most powerful experience I’ve had with spirit thus far, my body has unlocked another level or tier of capability and with the all of the knowledge I gained from the experience it’s made me respect spirits infinite knowledge… I kept repeating to myself “only spirit could understand me this well’.
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Sadguru Has definitely not awoken to the deeper insights of the universe, he is still so caught up in personal opinion that he doesn’t consider alternative perspectives… it’s clear to see when watching how he can’t directly answer a question as he doesn’t have the intrinsic understanding of the subject.. nother cult leader
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I’d be interested to hear about when you close your eyes and materialism disappears, how as consciousness we can experience physical experience through the eyes of others (so to speak), is there a level of consciousness that a self can retain itself whilst being aware enough to the point that he/she can experience other as one? Will ego/identification always be the final illusion before absolute oneness? I guess I’d like to know how God can experience at all if it is completely selfless, if there is no attachment to even itself.. Infinite nothingness vs infinite somethingness. what’s the actual evolution of universal spirit and why does anything have preference?
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BetweenTwo replied to BetweenTwo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Excuse my ignorance, just wrapping my head around it. So let’s say you were to completely remove all personal associations by self within its experience, what’s left is infinity operating as it always has but without its (ego) claiming to be seperate and an individual within that space.. For me there’s nothing outside of oneness, or even below the surface and so how can I deny the sensations of physicality as if it’s not being directly experienced.. ? even if it’s just the sensation of touching the ground or being alive. I can see how ego inherently as a source of survival creates a partition from the whole to exist separately as an individual (ego as the illusion thinking it’s not One), but that’s not saying that existence doesn’t exist? If you were to completely remove all attachments and associations wouldn’t you be in a non-dual state of experience.. experiencing infinity as that? Like I know what it’s like not to be physical but until I cease to exist (in this finite form) this dimension i occupy has walls I can’t walk through lol, to me this is the structure for the substance to survive. I think your right in me trying to mechanise it, I think i’m trying to understand how existence comes into being from non-existence. Thanks for the responses, it’s helping greatly. -
It’s been years trying to understand how physical sensations within direct experience are illusory.. It can understand that something can arise out of nothing and that nothing is the source for everything, it also gets that IT IS everything that is occuring within its field of experience without heirarchy.. Sure… but like existence is occurring for the perceiver that’s observing it… physical objects may arise out of nothingness and are only sensations that the (no-self) is experiencing, but it can’t just be a conceptual idea that you as an identification doesn’t exist and therefore is the illusion… What I don’t get is happening prior to the language used to conceptualise it. I can’t deny that I directly need this thing we call oxygen for survival, like that’s actually occurring for me in this present moment… nothing outside of my direct experience is occurring and there is no self to directly experience it anyway (so they say).. so how could it exist if it’s not existing and if it’s not existing then how can you explain the sensations experienced?… an imagination within the infinite mind… It seems like Enlightenment is just a way to describe our infinite nature, yet somehow our finite bodies don’t encompass physicality?? I know, I get it, I’m self deceived and such …. .. but how tho? How can the illusion run without something to experience it?
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Yo… I’m doing this… if you wanna tag along.. your welcome, if you wanna join in then lush times… if you wanna lead the way then i’ll go wherever you go.
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BetweenTwo replied to nado's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everything is an assumed duality to the one that’s percieving it, that is it’s creation, awareness of the spirit that’s projected out is whats occurring, and we apply value and meaning to that as a construction for egoic survival... I don’t really have a question, cos there’s nowhere to go.. it would just be incredible to experience that 24/7 forever.. and of course we will.. it’s just like, where do we go from here.. type thing. -
BetweenTwo replied to nado's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If god is eternal and all this has been occurring infinitely.. why are we stuck at the stage that we are... don’t you think that god would have figured out the pointlessness of experience and ceased its operation. I understand it’s a game for itself, but why not just be the absolute truth all the time and skip this stage of dualities.. what your basically saying is that this is heaven on earth and when we die, we return to source.. which is nothingness.. which is also everything at the same time.. is it cos nothingness couldn’t exist without something to exist from? -
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Recently had a pretty deep trip into the void with Dimitri for an extended period of time... you could say.. and it’s only when my system began to continue to survive that it instinctually introduced the holotropic breathwork technique... and ahh... that was pretty far Leo.. I’m not really sure how much further it can get, i literally blended the realms.