Faceless

Lolkl man This is hilarious. If someone believes in an illusion it is a fact that they believe that right?? It's also a fact that they are confused, conflicted, and suffering? Don't get caught in the subtle nature of thought my friend. Unless you want to

When one is bound by an illusion it is a fact that that is so right? To say oh it's just an illusion so lets ignore it and put it off for later is still an illusion. And isn't to depend on ? another subtle form of illusion? Time will get ya

The movement/process of Illusion is still fact.

Who is aware? Is it fear? Can fear be aware? Or does fear mechanically evade what is?

And tomorrow never comes

Precisely As that is the nature of an argument. One choice in opposition to another choice. This is how thought operates. This is the movement of mind/consciousness/time. Due to this movement of choosing in accordance to one's own self centered preferences ”mind/thought” one clings to the choice that benefits there perspective of thinking. It's thought defending it's very function to maintain permanence, security. Thought/self is always moving to secure and validate itself. That is it’s function A mind that chooses is confused. Consciousness that is confused lives in fear. Thought that is burdened by fear is only concerned with escaping that fear. A mind that escapes fear invites fear by inviting time/choice.... The cause is the effect and the effect is the cause. ⭕️ Can choice/thought end?? Thats the question

Hehe Go ahead expand expanding mind has nothing to do with centerlessness/timelessness. Expanding mind is a FINITE movement of consciousness/TIME ENDING TIME/MIND THIS IS WHERE IMMENSE ENERGY RESIDES

Is this an escape from everyday life?? From all our psychological problems?? From the confusion and conflict of relationship??

Thats my superpower. I'm psychologically indestructible Besides why would I be offended??‍♂️

Experience must end. Then you see.

This is a reference to the reaching for psychological goals

The desirer is the desired. The goal is the means. Transcending the brain would mean the ending of desire. Not controlling, suppressing, and using desire ”psychedelics” to do so. I'm telling you my friend, the ending of desire/experience is to transcend the brain model. One who has had extraordinary psychedelic experiences further strengthens the shackles of desire/the center and therefore becomes slave to experience...One then is strengthening the ego and perpetuating a constant movement into the illusion of psychological time. This is the trap of thought. This is well know to the wisest of the wise. As I have said desire is the initiator of the center. Are you free of experience???? Aren't you interested in this?? “It has been said that the highest wisdom lies in detachment, or, in the words of Chung-Tzu, ‘The perfect man employs his mind as a mirror; it grasps nothing; it refuses nothing; it receives, but does not keep.” This is an example of one who lives life free of experience. Consciousness free of the content/movement of the conditioned mind. The ending of experience is truth/nothingness. So why does one hold on to experience? Why does one depend on experience? Do you see the how this reinforcing experience and therefore preventing a creative experiencing. Don't you want to live everyday free of the past? Unless one does there is never a new moment. You are then living in the illusion of the past and the future..Do you see that? Get rid of the static and come with me to the dynamic. I know you really like your psychedelics and that's fine. Your choice. See if you can end the movement of desire which is the thought/ego. The energy released is so immense. And its continual and never ending. I invite you to see if it is possible for yourself

Same old song and game huh ? I applaud this game one is playing as well. Bravo ?

@Truth ??

@Nahm Are we aware of every movement of desire which is the root of deception??? Desire is the initiator and source of the constant movement the center/self Desire is fear There is desire therefore “I” am. Where there is desire inevitably makes for deception Desire is fragmentation When desire is not there is emptiness. Which is frightening. So we are constantly move in the direction of desire maintain permanence. When desire is not, “I”am not. What happens when the whole of desire is seen? This is the problem. We employ the part “desire” being a limited and finite movement to end itself. But the desirer is the desired. Here is this full circle ⭕️ that you speak of. One is then attempting to use desire to end desire. Use time to end time. A fragmented movement trying to end that which demands a whole/infinite/unlimited movement to do so, such as truth. To end desire, the whole movement of desire must be “totally” understood. In that holistic understanding “non dualistic” ”not of choosing” there is an immediate action of negation “intelligent action”...A sign of genuine embodiment. This is the ending of all that desire implies. Time at that moment ends. There is no more using desire to end desire. The negation of desire means no movement/content of the conditioned consciousness “the center”...Freedom from the center/desire, ends the inevitable self deception. This is the revolution of consciousness. To ending of desire “time” is the essence of intelligence. If you are still caught in these desires you are not expressing action of one who is truth. This is totally absurd my friend. And ”All” is contained within truth. But your actions are the actions of one who is fragemted, contradicting, and which expresses itself as one being psychologically insecure. Your replies make this quite apparent. Holistic embodiment is the expression of truth. This is absurd to. You cannot possibly know ”where I'm at”...especially since we share two totally different perspectives here. I’m sorry but your actions on this forum do not seem like one who lives as TRUTH. Quite the opposite I must say. You insist that desire “time” can lead to truth. Any man/woman that actually lives as truth would see this as absolutely absurd my friend. This is an obvious sign that you are still bound measure. You are still projecting images upon others to satisfy your own self constructed image. It’s very easy to see this. It’s ok I don’t mind I just thought you might want to know. Don’t mind my honesty. And your reactions to my purposing that all these means of time to end time is not absolutely necessary seems to be you protecting your own insecurities. You depend on advocating these movements of time to validate and maintain your self image. It seems to me you feel I am attacking you by suggesting these “movements of time” are just another movement of choice and within the limited field of mind/thought. Does this make you feel your very essence of self is being attacked? Not everyone wants to play this absolutely false game of time can lead to the absolute. This is joke and a very destructive joke at that. Some people see through the game my friend. I’m just sharing with any who may want to avoid the BS and live free of the shackles of time ”Now” not tomorrow or next day. Only thought procrastinates as such. Anyway I got to go. I appreciate your honesty I hope you appreciate mine as well??

The negation of desire and all it implies is not a movement of duality. This is a whole action that is not bound by the dualistic nature of thought. Only truth sees this. TRUTH NEED NOT DESIRE Only from the perspective of one who is bound by duality “choice” is that so.

Where there is desire there can be no truth.

Conscious awareness disregards and excludes. When the center “the part” is not, all “the whole” is center. Centerlessness, Timelessness, NO-THINGNESS

@beaucoup Honesty and humility are desires worst enemy. Where there is awarness of all the subtle forms of desire there is a possibility for the ending of deception??

Do we see this as a fact?

Absolute...Nah I don’t name such beauty. Let’s not name such bliss?

I understand this point of view. As long as mind is still in movement there will be this recognition of experience. It’s when the center ceases that there is not even an “i am” There is no self awareness at all. So Actually no point in even naming this non-experience. It is more like a immeasurable/timeless nonbeing. With no particular point of reference, view, or vantage point. Quite hard to explain. Actually totally impossible to even interpret it at all. Because I am never there.

No center and all as center. ? A cessation of all static conditioned movement/content of mind that tends to project itself as a particular experience.

?? All this “me” is an accumulation of static impressions.

Yes I agree with this. It’s pretty easy to tell who is caught in there own Jazz ?? Explained well once again. Yep although I see intuition as a movement of mind. I see it as insight. We have gone into that. But I know what your saying and agree. For me when all “defending” ceases so does this movement to capture reality with the intellect. It’s pretty fair to say that thought/intellect is a movement of defense/control. To maintain permanence of self/ego. Yes this is where the essence of beauty “pure bliss” arises. When the one who benefits, controls ends.