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Watch that fear, it will get ya IS THIS BETTER??? OR THIS ???

TRUTH TRUTH ⭕️ TRUTH TRUTH ⭕️= MIND/ the conditioned consciousness ...perception through memory, knowledge, experience... self centered activity. Fear, jealousy, antagonism, sorrow, anger, anxiety, depression, contradiction, conflict, violence, and all the rest of what mind/thought/ego implies. TRUTH=creativity, joy, beauty, compassion, Love

This is the point. If there is no self/center fear is not. There can be no love when there is fear. Fear is the driving force of the ego/thought.

Not conditioned love. When truth is, it has nothing to do with mind and it’s conditioend mechanistic movement. So hate does not exist when there is truth. Only in the absense of self centered activity is there actually compassion. If there is any movement of the center “the self/ego/thought” then “TRUE” love/compassion/creativity is not. Love is when you are not. It’s not any conceptual idea like we generally interpret it. The self/thought seeks security, therefore it considers itself all important over the other. And if that is the case do you love, or is everything based on reward and the avoidance of punishment??? Explore into yourself and you will see.

Well I would say that would be wise. I would ask you if you were referring to real or unreal movements. I would ask you if an illusion can still be a fact. And then I would recommend you inquiring into those questions, but in the form of self reflection, and not in the form of abstraction, like books and or an authority. That's right But thought is movement and a very persistent movement at that. Duality is an illusion but even when one who may ”know” that, it still often continues to dominate every step we take in our daily life. One can ”believe in and know” nonduality very well yet they may still be moving in a dualistic manner. One will say they known oneness yet every action they take implies separateness, and expressed dualistically. Knowing nonduality and actually ending duality in one's self is dramatically different indeed. To acquire and accumulate nondual teachings is quite different than putting all ones energy into self knowledge and self understanding, which sees and negates all positive action “duality”...In self reflection we learn all aspects of oneself and in that there is a maintaining a choiceless attention to innatention. This the essence of awareness. Duality and belief have much in common. Both movments of divison. Both movements of contradiction, both movements of fear. Actually both are really one and the same movement. This becomes quite apparent when we explore/observe ourselves with diligent religiosity.

The experiencer envites fear and this is the formulation of experience ”knowledge, past experiences, recollected from the accumulation of memory. If that is in movement only then is there a center that fears. If fear enters in then the center has not ended. Therefore the experience has been projected by the experiencer. This carry over of experience in response to a challenge ”thought” must be finished, ended. That way once every new experiencing arises there is no center ”entity” or memory/recognition the past, which is where meaning is imposed onto new experiencings. If there is no carry over, there is no you that interprets, perceives, observes, but only observation free of choice, duality, time. In this there is no fear at all. There is only CREATIVITY, BEAUTY, JOY, COMPASSION, LOVE. All these are the qualities within the essence of TRUTH... Where there is fear/self, TRUTH and all it implies is not.

This is all from the perspective of self/thought. I assure you when the self ”time” ends there will be no entity that identifies anything in any way or another. Explore into the nature of experience. In this lies consciousness with NO-THING in it. ??

If one dreams this implies thought is in movement. Thought is always old “static” dead. If there is dreamlessness, this implies that movement is alive “dynamic” or compete, ”nothingness” In this dreamlessness is the closest we can get to communion to nothingness.

There shouldn't be any fear the moment when truth is. Truth is only when there is a cessation of the entity. If there is fear then that implies there was some form of resistance at play. A deep rooted unconscious piece of the entity still in tact. This is the result of identity still attaching meaning “experience” on top of an experiencing. The biggest barrier to TRUTH is the veil of experience. Learn and understand the complexity of experience and the experiencer. This is the key to conciousness emptying its content/movement. This is the end of the center. Truth. Once this is seen and maintained by carful and scrupulous religiosity, these types of experiencings will happen more and more, free of fear, meaning, the experiencer.

If there is a cessation of meaning after an experience and yet meaning finds its way back into the mind, this is because one has not carried out that experience all the way to the end. We have certain experiencings and we never end them, or finish them, and leave them behind. We carry them with us and those experiences act as a veil to mask new experiencings. Which implies that each experience is not actually new, but a continuation of memory “that which is static” and that memory is where meaning is attatched to “new experiences”...But that meaning itself implies that is a conceptualization accumulated from the old, and acts as a blindfold to what is, THE ESSENCE OF CREATIVITY. THE KEY TO THE ART OF LIVING IS NOT TO CARRY “THAT WHICH IS STATIC” ,,being PAST KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, THROUGH THE MOVEMENT OF MEMORY OVER ONTO EACH NEW, ACTIVE, AND ALIVE MOMENT OF THE NOW, “THAT WHICH IS DYNAMIC”...AN EXPERIENCING FREE OF THE EXPERIENCER. If this is done, no meaning becomes attached to the beauty of what is, TRUTH. This is CENTERLESNESS. AND SIMULTANEOUSLY ALL IS CENTER.

Conciousness void of these is FREEDOM. This is the art of living. Art being to things “thinks” in there right place. ??

If there is actually any need for a sage, the single most important role of the sage is to show others that to depend on any type of authority leads to contradiction and further disorder. We can assume that the most unsuccessful sage would be be hoisted upon people’s shoulders and would grow a big business. The most successful sage would be out of work in a flash...hehe In his case success is the biggest failure and failure is the biggest success. Truth isn’t for sale. Self knowledge, that in which “wisdom” is born can not be taught. True Cooperation implies no teacher, no guru, no authority of any kind, but instead two friends in mutual communion, working together without any kind of self centered interest and more interested to understand problems. And in the understanding of the problems lie the answers. This isn’t directed towards anyone in particular. It is just something that should be well known to all. RESPONSIBLITY SHOULD BE OUR PURPOSE The question is, is it???

Only an ego wants to kill an ego. Any positve action is a movement of ego.

Love is when ‘you’ are not. love is truth. No truth no love

Mr @Leo Gura no matter wrong or not is exploring himself. I haven’t met with Leo on many topics but I respect his persistence in not persisting in his own Foley. He seems to have questioned the place where he had arrived. That takes tremendous humility, especially when people are constantly pedestalizing him here on the forum. Life is an art. One never arrives. Either way he is in one way or another a significant source to learn from. After all there is always something to learn from others. No matter what, we benefit from the observation of others in relation to oursleves. Relationship is the highest form and teaching to self knowledge. The mirror never lies. As long as we are not affriad of what it reflects. Responsibility is fundamental when we see that we are the world and world is us...

If there is fear the ego still remains the fact. Even illusions can be facts and hold us hostage. Fear tells the story. Watch it. Learn about it. Don’t accept fear. Face it. Big difference between acceptance as in resistance and facing it head on. Seeing it without evasion. Good luck @Mikael89

This is so. Any movement one takes forward or backward is a movement of duality. The authority of personal experience and the collective must end. If this authority remains so does duality/division, the movement of fear and escape. Any movement of duality remains duality. To take any steps forward or backward is positive action/movement. There must cease any positive movement what so ever. To move by positive means to reach the positive “goal” leads back to the negative. One can’t get to the positive through the positive “time” Only the negation of all movement of the positive “time” does the positive come into being.

Be aware of that movement to defend that which is being questioned. That is a sign of contradiction, yet there is a compulsion to escape that fact to the idea in that which you have sought security. Watch it. With contradiction comes fear. If you are awareness be aware.??‍♂️

It’s ok ideas, ideas, ideas....And then it will be i experienced this, this, this, and this. All the product of thought. Carful it will get ya.

No . That’s the point. The whole of thought/ego must be understood totally. We must be attentive of inattention of our own dualistic, divisive, and fragmented movements and patterns. I’m not sure you are understanding what I mean by thought. I have noticed a lot of people keep referring to “thoughts”...I’m referring to the entire movement of thought. You will have to explore to understand what this implies. It goes much deeper than the multiplicity of thoughts. That's a excellent question. Unless we understand and can identify when thought is in movement we can't...If thought moves and attributes to itself as being independent of thought well??‍♂️there is no chance. This is an impossibility. It’s essential to be very careful not to identity yourself with an idea. It gives a sense of psychological security. And one will tend to cling to that idea and not face the fact of what is actually so. Again... we need to learn the nature of thought before getting into this. Anything I say from this point to someone who hasn’t investigated for themselves will not understand what I mean. The lessening of compulsive thoughts is dependent upon the cessation of the whole movement of though/self. This is done understanding and attention to inattention “awareness”..To have an experiencing free of experience “the veil of the past” so each new moment can be met totally afresh. You can’t be aware of something you can’t even see. My posts only point to the necessity of exploring oneself.

It’s ok my friend. Your not seeing what’s being said. Its ok. Be carful with the inventions of thought. Thought is very sneaky. Even for lifers. Be carful

This is just imitating what has already been said. Don’t be concerned with “enlightenment” It’s about freedom from the atuthority of experience. The accumulated personal experience and the cultural, traditional, and collective conditioned experience. Freedom without the veil of experience, that which is “static” interfering with each dynamic new and alive moment. The cessation of the center.

@Mikael89 Ok

Unless the movement of duality/division ends there is no awareness. Otherwise that is a movement of thought. Gathering answers from the past “thought” will only cause contradiction and self deception. Go it alone unless you like those things of course

Has time ended for you actually? Do you seek security in that idea?