Faceless

Delusion goes much deeper the we think. The best thing to do is stop filling the mind with the nonsense constructed by thought, and put all your energy into understanding the conditioned consciousness.

I have posted this before. Explains the a little about the nature of experience... Originally, experience means to go through with/to end.... To not carry experience over as a projection onto the present movement experiencing. But that is not what we do. We cling to experience and project forward onto the “dynamic now” When this is the case, all present experience implies “the accumulation of the past, “knowledge/memory”, and that recollection is then projected in the form of a new experience. But that experience is not new if it is influenced by the accumulation of memory, knowledge, and past experiencings. Any movement as such is a movement of thought, no matter how much one feels thought was not in movement. If a experience is identified it is a movement of thought “the known” Any experience implies the movement of thought/the thinker. In this case the experience and experiencer are one in the same movement. When/If, the movement of experience “knowledge/memory, being static”, ceases to be carried over onto the dynamic now, “not recorded and therefore projected” then no content/movement of the self, “thinker/thought”, will be projected as an experience at all. If all that movement of self ceases to manifest, so does the experience/experiencer who experiences. Which implies there is no-body to identify with any-thing. The ultimate freedom. If there is no such dualistic movement of thought taking place then that implies whole action that is not divisive and fragmented by a center/ego/thought..... This implies that the center “the i” is not. This is what is considered “ONENESS/NON-DUAL”... In this all movement ‘without’ such dualistic action implies whole action, complete action, the action of truth. Infinite, absolute, immeasurable. WHEN THIS DUALISTIC MOVEMENT CEASES, THAT IS THE ACTION OF TRUTH ITSELF. THIS IS EMBODIMENT OF TRUTH, AND MAY BE REFERED TO AS THE INFINITE, ABSOLUTE, THE IMMEASURABLE. BUT THERE IS NO IDENTIFICATION/EXPERIENCE OF SUCH IMMENSE ENERGY. CENTERLESSNESS IMPLIES NOTHINGNESS AND NOTHINGNESS IMPLIES THE ABSENCE OF IDENTIFICATION/EXPERIENCE THE ENDING OF TIME.

Hehe ? Even the majority of monks are caught in duality/time. The life of a monk is very dualistic indeed. The only way we will know is to see for ourselves. Don’t say it can or cannot be done. See for oneself. If one with a job/children can do it, anyone can. Just takes religious awareness/self reflection of ones daily happenings.

A mind that is seeking experience of (any kind) is still acting in accordance to its conditioned responses by the senses. Therefore still caught in duality. All experiences are still the movement of time. Does one see that the motive (desire/will) to expand consciousness is still a movement of ones own conditioned consciousness? Its important to see that all dualistic movement/positive action, is all the movement of the experiencer. Any activity/movement that the experiencer makes towards GOD is futile and only perpetuates further contradiction/time/conflict. The ultimate question is, can one become free of the bondage of experience? Can one remain alone, empty, nothing, without escaping back into the pattern of duality/time? This is the most difficult thing it seems. To be in such harmony that there is no movement of time whatsoever.

He means thought with its divisive/dualistic nature created your idea of god. Only thought( the conditioned consciousness) self, identifies. The subtle act of identifying implies duality

That’s just it, can we see when thought has taken over such things? Can we see time in movement in ourselves. Are we aware of time? Do we even notice time in movement?

They are the walls, the experience, time. Great example of time attempting to end time by the means of inviting time. The ultimate contradiction indeed. The inevitable mechanical and fragmented nature of thought. Dualistic movement/psychological time

This has to do with time. You see it? This is what I mean by being able to see when time is in movement in oursleves. This impulse to identify and even the subtle impulses to dis-identify To see this movement of time clearly in ourselves.

But can we see it in oursleves? All the forms time takes within the inward movement of thought/self. Do we see that the movement of time must end for there to be creativity?

Yes. Do you see it? The obviousness if that. The question is, can we see all the subtle movements of time within ourselves? Very important if one is interested in the question of what is creativity.

Indeed. The entity and its movement of time. Only a mind without conflict can be creative.

I’m referring more to the essence itself.

Indeed. Observation free of the knower. This to me would fall under time/cultivation/the movement of duality(an entity and its conditioned movement) Do you see what I mean?

I’m not really familiar with tradition, but this relates to what I am referring to. If one is bound by time, then communion with tao is not. Then creativity is not. It’s the cessation to the user/entity that makes for creativity.

Of course that would fall under technique(knowledge, experience, memory) That would fall under utilizing the movement of time/thought.

There is nothing more creative than consciousness/mind with no-thing in it, followed by action/expression.

Do you mean technique?

To ask how to be creative is very contradictory indeed.

I think @How to be wise is referring to creative expression.

All thinking is determined by the stream of thought. Ones personal experience, collective (as in subcultural, tradition) and so on. Usually the way we express is we use thought (knowledge, past experiences, memory) and we act according to all that. If we act according to the stream of thought that we are conditioned into, then that thought is all within the BOX. All conditioned thought is within the box. It’s only when we are free of that, that there is a truly creative movement and therefore action/expression. Its only in freedom without the shackles of thought that one can think differently. Start with seeing that time, “psychological becoming”, the entity with its volition/desire is why one is perpetually limited within that BOX(conditioned thought/expression/ and then action) But creativity cannot be cultivated. Cultivation is the very limiting factor to remaining in the BOX

I would get enlightenment out of the brain. It’s just holding one back. What I am referring to is creativity at it’s essence. To be empty of the old implies creativity. In that all expression is creative. Otherwise we are talking about being inventive. Quite different.

This cannot be answered, as question/answer both are movements of time/thought. The questioner must cease to move positively. All such movement of time pushes away creativity. Thats is the beauty of it.

And yes the uncertainty, seeking permanence, controle and a controller must end. Thats is what nourishes thought (experience, memory, the me)

To die from moment to moment. To die every second. To remain empty, alone.

If not, then is one looking at the new through old eyes?? Is that a creative action of perseption?