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Thought is alway old and never new. If we are bound by thought doesnt this mean that we are slave to the past, and therefore not free to commune with that of which is new(the now)?

Does desire imply freedom? Does thought-self-desire imply freedom?

Indeed. We all walk together in this. Of course I did. Thank you. It’s about mutual exchange. We learn from one another.

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The Illusions we should be concerned with should be the ones that involve a psychological seeking of security. Just to keep it simple.

@WindInTheLeaf I appreciate your participation. You would be great to have in such conversations. Thank you.

To move in accordance to time is to move in accordance to an illusion. If we see this deep in our bones, we see the futility of continuing in that pattern. Time and the self are one and the same movement of fear. Why move accordingly to that when we see that fear perpetuates time. If we see this as fact, freedom is instantaneous.

Thought-self is the product of the accumulation of time(experience, knowledge, memory) The movement of psychological becoming and unbecoming as the self.

I am speaking of time as thought by the way as well. Just so you know buddy And Time as the interval between what has been an now and now and what will be.

I am only conveying to understanding onself. To investigate thought. They will come to this on there own. I am just information. Not a teacher/guide. People can investigate for themselves. Never accept anyone, especially myself. There is no light until you see it for yourself. Until then it’s all an assumption. You can assume one is enlightened, but that is an assumption based off one who is not.

It can be very tricky indeed. I appreciate simply learning about the nature of thought, that way we can identify when thought is in movement or not. That way we know when time is in movement or not. That way there is no positive or negative movement taking place, but instead choicless passivity( timeless action)

It can take you a lifetime to end time by falling for thoughts compulsion to procrastinate. Or you can end Time now by seeing the futility in that. It can take a months/to a year or so, or it can take a lifetime, if ever. Which one sounds better?

Transition is a movement of procrastination. Thought loves to procrastinate. Lol

Definitely, to ask questions is ultimately the best way to share. To promote the cultivation of time is to promote fear as a means to end fear. This is a major contradiction, and totally unnecessary. What I am sharing is the necessity of learning the nature of thought(oneself) i have nothing to offer anyone other than to point to the necessity of exploring oneself. That’s it. No guru nonsense, as that is to nourish the stream of fear in another. I will not participate in that personally.

Well said.

You are implying cultivation of time is a means to end time?

People should question for themselves. We don’t want to give anyone answers, as we cannnot anyway.

Of course insight cannot be given by anohter. And indeed thought cannot end thought. To seek enlightenment is to employ thought-self through means of psychological becoming. Any movement of volition is a movement of thought.

Of course. It will ultimately take one to investigate for oneself. I like to come at it from all angles.

To get it in pieces is to not get it. It must be seen as one holistic and complete insight. To get it in pieces implies that that understanding is partial-limited. Thought-intellect will only capture pieces.

Indeed, that which is fragmented/broken cannot capture that which is whole. In order to see the whole (infinite) that which is (fragmented-finite) must cease to move.

You cannot explain the light. You can only point to the light. What @robdl and I do is to show all the subtle inter-relationships of thought. To point so one can see in oneself how each “particular” movement of thought is actully one unitary movement. We share the significance of investigating the nature of thought-self.

Indeed. To see how everything connects as one unitary movement

Yes lol Yeah let’s not make that a goal lol In so doing thought is again at work. So tricky and sneaky

Total Integration/embodiment is the result of seeing the futility in moving in accordance to time. To negate any movement whatsoever in seeking psychological security. To live with what is, which implies the ending of fear. It’s only when fear is not, that there is bliss. It’s only in virtue-order, that there can be bliss. Only in bliss can there be complete action, holy action.