Faceless

Got you.

The fear wants to escape the fear, as the fear?

The most simple way to “think” of TRUTH is to see that the essence of TRUTH cannot be thought about. Lol Thought being limited, fragmented, finite, “the part” of the whole cannot capture-contain that which is infinite, limitless, whole. That is a simple way to see it. Of course one would have to understand the limitation of thought to see that.

As truth in action-emptiness-consciousness empty of its content and conditioned movement, there is no movement of choosing, deciding between, or no distinctions made between this or that. This is on the most basic level by the way, when there is complete silence there is no movement of even self conscious awareness. No identification, no registration, or recollection in movement whatsoever. This is what I refer to the most sacred movement of creativity. Im not really directing this towards you friend, I just saw your post and wanted to talk about this

The essence, Truth cannot be expressed through thought, thought about, experienced, but only pointed to as a description. But that is never what is being described. Thanks for your interest buddy. Hope I further clarified. You will have to see for yourself if it is correct.

Thought can be aware of the action that truth makes in thought. Thought is not aware of truth in its Essence though. Truth brings about order in the field of thought. Conscious awareness can be aware of that action of order just as it can be aware of its disorder.

Here I am just expressing when there is this actuality of consciousness with nothing in it, there is no identification at all. There is no such activity of the mind in movement. There is no saying ahh, this is my true nature and so on. There is no self conscious awareness even. There is only the happening, and no slef recognition to say, this is my true nature. Or What I call being headless. If that clears it up a little. Lolol it won’t clear it up unless your head falls off?

No hehe, when I describe that throught is a stream, thought is used in that description. But the conditioned consciousness being a stream (thought) is not an invention of thought. Thought is a manifestation of that stream itself. Do you noticed that people actually think there thoughts are there’s. This has a lot to do with thinking that the thinker is the creator of thoughts. Anyway there has to be a stepping out of that stream in order to see the stream itself. Don’t believe what I say though, you can see for yourself.

I’m meeting you my friend??

I’m not as familiar with the term “The witness” but I think I know what you mean. also known as a type of passive attention. Observation without choice (non-action or whole action)

The way I see it, the conditioned human consciousness tends to avoid this important understanding...We don’t understand the basics before moving forward. We seem to avoid what is actually happening in ourselves , and jump to a predestination or anticipated projection. To me understanding all the subtle movements of mind is essential, which involves the necessity of not moving in accordance to positve and negative action of the self. People don’t seem to see all this subtle movement of thought-self. This, to me, must be understood and kept aware of. I think your post on seeking security in time should be talked about much more than it is. To observe this movement of fear, makes for a much more holistic awareness. I feel that in this holistic understanding-awareness of all that movement to become, makes for complete action. The sharing of not moving in accordance to fear is very significant indeed.

If there is a conscious intention to accept what is, it is in itself a form of non-acceptance of what is... Thought is very subtle, takes much more attention-awareness than wanting-choosing to do, or become. Its much deeper than that... ?thought-self is very sneaky indeed. Relationship with this trickery is essential.

When “the sacred” is, all this movement of time ceases. There will then be no more such questions.

Oh?

Ah my bad ? i got mixed up. Sweden is nice right? Are you near any forests and such?

@Mikael89 Bravo ? living there my friend. Living there you are better off spending a lot of time outdoors. Everything you need to know or learn about in yourself, and about the nature of living is in that beautiful land there. Observation of our own inner workings, with others, and in nature (the relationship between) is the absolute best form of self learning that can take place. You will learn how to observe “the happening” holistically. To see all happenings simultaneously, and to maintain a balance of the senses and thought, so that one is not over-dominated by one or the other. This is an art, and paves the way for what I refer to as headlessness. By the way thanks for showing those pics of that beautiful country. Place looks majestic??

For me silence was the result total order in thought. This came into being when I saw holistically the futility in moving in accordance to the seeking of psychological time. I saw the falsity in there being the experiencer-experience duality. I saw the whole movement of time and it’s consequences and ended that movement of time as the i, seeking to capture and maintain permanence. For me this silence was not gradual. It was uninvited and instant-simultaneous as one unitary holistic perception.

I dont understand your question buddy. No, I meant, in and as nothing, there is no identification or asking of the question of what my nature is. That is just a manifestation-movement of time as the i that seeks such an answer to that question. But yeah the mind can’t hold the actual truth. That truth can act in the mind and thought can become aware of its action in thought, but thought can’t maintain the actual perception itself (the essence) of it, in its entirety. So what I mean is, truth is not somthing we hold on to, but acts directly in reality-thought. “To hold on” is the very preventing factor of truth coming into being. Truth puts order in thought and makes for whole (complete-inifinte) action. Truth-whole perception, only comes about when there is complete order in thought, in which comes silence. In order-silence, the action of truth is. If that makes sense. That is a quick few words to explain something quite difficult to explain.

Excellent mountain ranges. ? Place looks fantastic.

Ultimate Freedom, is itself the action of integration(wholeness). When fear ends there is integration. Integration is not cultivated. If it is, there is not integration actually, but fear attempting to cultivate fragmentation and make that contradiction constructing mechanism whole. As an action of wholeness (truth in action) there is a sort of absence of perspective. A deep down rooted sense of emptiness ceases to indentify with any given “particular” perspective. This truth in action tends to speak in and of itself , although it is reduced by the dualistic nature, and limited nature of the word.

@electroBeam To me this type of observation-perception is quite effortless. I never was inclined to read books and so on. This may have somthing to do with why I can observe-perceive inward actualizations as well as the outward, without the veil of thought(experience, knowledge, memory) influencing that observation-perception. I wasn’t aware of this term phenomenology until I stumbled upon your thread here now. This seems to be similar to the way I see the inner workings of thought-self-experience and am able to move uninfluenced by that movement of time. I will check this out a little more. Although i wasn’t familiar with the term until now, this observational awareness is an all day affair for me. I feel this has paved the way for holistic perception, without the limitation of thought-self reducing that observation and causing partial seeing. Thanks for introducing me to this, even if it wasn’t intentional? I feel it may perhaps help in my communication with what I share with others. I dont see any books, methods, being of any help, from my perspective that is. I feel that perhaps dependence on anything other than ones own seeing-observation may cause this inability to observe free of the accumulation of any type of knowledge acting as a barrier. But I’m not sure, this just seems to be the case from what I have observed. Thanks again.

I usually hesitate with such questions, but I will share my view wth you since you asked. I see the human consciousness (conditioned consciousness-thought) as one stream. We think of our consciousness-thought being distinct from one another’s. To me, it’s not my consciousness or my thought, or it’s not your consciousness or your thought, but consciousness-thought being one unitary movement. I consider every particular aspect of that stream, “seemingly” being a private mixture(self), that is a part of that stream in movement. This is what thought-self does, it measures, distinguishes, narrows down, and cuts “things” into pieces. This division only takes place within the movement of thought-time as the i. That is part of the way I view the stream of consciousness and our relationship with one another, on a simple and down to earth level that is. This is all seen when emptiness is actualized. But never take anyone’s word for it. Until there is this emptiness of things of the mind, it will be another concept born of things(thought)...The truth of this will not be seen as an absolute fact unless the mind is empty of things actually. This is what I refer to as consciousness empty of its content-conditioned movement, or mind empty of the conditioned stream of consciousness. Hope this has been an interesting perspective to you. Again, don’t believe a shred of what is said here. See for yourself friend??

@Anna1 ??

Hehe

Thank you friend. I am slowly learning how to communicate more efficiently. Excellent??