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There is conflict/suffering only when there is resistance to the fact, which looks for its opposite in the abstraction. This resistance perpetuates the continuity of “i”. To escape the fact (dis-satisfaction) and pursue the abstraction (satisfaction), is the very psychological movement that nourishes conflict/suffering/unhappiness. What happens when there is just a staying with the fact? Is that fact then any longer the fact?

Beautiful The means(practice) and the “i” being one and the same movement of psychological time. The “i” that practices nourishes it’s own movement of psychological “becoming” (illusion).

Indeed As a path implies an “i” that walks it. As the path and “the i” are one and the same movement of time/self. The means (path), and the end-goal(truth-enlightenment), are really one and the same movement of “i”-time. As all of the above are the movement of psychological time(psychological becoming), and imply the projection of the goal(truth), as if it was some-”thing” fixed-static.

Interesting

It’s quite obvious when one has gone beyond that in which one has yet begun isn’t it

I’m not talking about absolute truth. Cute ? I understand what you are suggesting and I am bringing to attention the falsity in it. Are you aware of that? There is no point in having a dialog about enlightenment...as that is to move within the limit of a pre-assumed falsity...perhaps explore into the questions posted last. You are the only one referring to communicating TRUTH/“enlightenment”.. I am bringing to attention that which can be understood/communicated. What I am referring too can be communicated. As I am pointing to that of “the self” and it’s movement within time/thought. To speak about truth which is timesless has absolutely no point, as truth cannot be communicated. Now before responding perhaps re-read what was said before projecting the obvious incoherent response. Or don’t bother and continue to do what you what you want.

Self learning without the conditioned motive of reward and punishment... Does one see the significance in this? Perhaps then all of this is quite apparent??‍♂️

Do you see the false in this?? Can one be enlightened? As said already.... Enlightened action implies timeless action, which is always changing, never static. This is why it is foolish to say one is enlightened or that one knows, or has experienced truth. Such timeless action is never fixed. And what does experience have to do with that? Are you aware of these falsities? And to just be clear...no one can help “you” or “me”. To depend on another for help is the very reason one is caught in there own self deception-confusion/suffering. I only write to perhaps bring about interest in learning about the self as it is...for me and anyone else to play the role of teacher is totally irresponsible, and contributes to the disorder of the conditioned consciousness.

@How to be wise ? This is a pointing to the false in the false... do you see it? Relative truth???? What relative truth? Perhaps instead this is a pointing to that which is correct or incorrect. Does one see the difference?

If a martial artist utilized that same psychological philosophy in the art of combat, wouldn’t they in so doing place upon themselves a tremendous limitation?

Is intelligent action born of time(the mechanical motive of “i”), that conforms to an established/fixed patterns and routines (ZEN APPROACH) ...such as methods, systems, techniques, as a means(WAY)?

Enlightened action implies timeless action, which is always changing, never static. This is why it is foolish to say one is enlightened or that one knows, or has experienced truth. Such timeless action is never fixed.

@SoonHei “Using no way as a way, having no limitation as limitation”... “Awareness is without choice, without demand, without anxiety; in that state of mind, there is perception.”.. To realize freedom the mind has to learn to look at life, which is a vast movement, without the bondage of time , for freedom lies beyond the field of consciousness care for watching, but don't stop and interpret "I am free," then you're living in a memory of something that has gone before. Bruce Lee

On a much more simple level... Desire, will, psychological becoming, are all actually one and the same movement of fear looking to end itself by means of nourishing it’s own movement(psychological time). If action (i.e choosing/deciding) being influenced by desire/will is determined by FEAR, is that action ever free? Or is that action inevitably burdened and limited by fear?

Exactly... Perhaps explore into this “i feeling relieved”. Relationship with ourselves and others speaks its own truth. Can one obvserve the many actions & reactions of that relationship in motion?

Perhaps this routined meditation is fortifying the illusion of “the i”.. Could it be a subtle form of psychological attachment? How does one feel after one of these meditation sittings? Some questions for one to consider.

Perhaps... I don’t see why though. I would say it just take an interest. An interest in ourselves.

@Barry J ??I’m not is opposition to Buddhism or any “thing”. I am only interested in sharing the significance of possibly bypassing all that which time/thought has put together as a means to freedom. For me personally there was a direct seeing into the whole nature and structure of time/thought as a means to FREEDOM. There wasn’t this movement of progression, cultivation of time, or process of any kind. It was an instantaneous and holistic insight into the futility in looking to time/thought to end the burden in which time/thought had created... I feel I am not in any way special, and that this can be seen by all. I am here to share with anyone interested

Is this search for happiness-satisfaction in “things” (of the mind) the same movement that causes unhappiness-dissatisfaction? When we look to the mind-thought(“things”) to fulfill our own sense of psychological contentment, isn’t that actually what causes psychological discontentment? When the self looks to THOUGHT(i.e. A Buddhist Path-teaching) to attain and sustain a state of psychological security, isn’t that actually nourishing what reinforces that very psychological insecurity? For the self to seek security in thought is to sustain that very continuity of self, which is to strengthen the illusion of division between the experiencer and that which that “experiencer” experiences.

Is there an awareness to thought when in movement or not? Is there an understanding of the inherent limits of thought itself? Have we explored into these limits? And... Can there be an awareness to the subtleties that call on the operation of thought, or that are implicit within this structure/movement of thought? As in.. The question of “how” do “we” “know” ...perhaps these three in “quotes” may be one and the same movement of thought responding, but maybe an unawareness of that movement as it arises? Has then thought responded while being unaware that it has done so? And if so, would this imply one has right out of the gate started with the pre-assumption that thought hadn’t responded yet? Therefore, has one already been caught in thought, although continues as they hadn’t been. Is there an awareness to this process of registration, recollection, and response as it arises? Do you see the significance in being able to observe such a movement-process in motion? Doesn’t it seem reasonable to understand the limitation of thought, it’s nature, structure, and process? If so, atleast now one knows what to explore

Only thought as the chooser identifies or chooses to dis-identify... Identification being implicit in the nature, structure, and process of thought. All that is left to inquire into is thought and its nature.

The self will seek security in thought. The self (image of the past), will take shelter in an image accumulated from the past(i.e. ideas about consciousnesses, god, and various other religious movements). Thought will identify with anything of thought to sustain its own movement of time-illusion. How then does one know when they have invented GOD, CONSCIOUSNESS etc.? Do we see the subtletie of this?

Perhaps looking for a solution is part of the problem. Or, what does Buddhism have to do wth it? Why not understand what’s going on..why not understand the problem?

@egoless I am afraid you pre-assume in regards to how I live and what I share. If you have read through any of my posts you will see that I do not concern myself with non-dual theory, methods, systems, techniques, routines, the cultivation of experiences. Infact, have you ever actually read anything I write about, or has the veil in which you perhaps observed through done all the reading/understanding?

It’s quite interesting the numerous traps constructed by the chooser that chooses. Methods, systems, techniques, routines, the cultivation of experiences... perhaps one can completely bypass-sidestep all the limitation that time(psychological becoming) presents. Truth is a trackless wilderness