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First off good morning friend,?? As said above, indeed, Fear is then in motion. Fear self will never “be ready” for this. Fear self procrastinates complete action. There is no preparation or gradual process to end this movement of time. This implies perpetual sustainment of division, which implies conflict, contradiction, or continuous incomplete action. This fear must cease to influence action, which is why there must be total freedom first. Freedom without reaction-action of this self-fear is essential. With that there is total feeedom to explore into the unknown.

What are some of the conflicting or contradicting things in what he says and what I am saying?

First it’s not “my” teaching” and How so?

@Feel Good so what’s the problem here, friend?

Also with self esteem. When this psychological dependence on thought ends, the narrowness of “Self esteem” has no point anymore. Self asteem has nothing on one who is whole.

Self-personal development, as in psychological evolution, is to feed the self feeding loop. When this fear ceases to manifest itself which is one and the same movement of seeking psychological security in time, then thought operates orderly in practical affairs. But thought is not climbed to psychologically.

We start psychologically first. To follow is a psychological dependence. We walk together. To try and develop psychologically is a trap, and feeds the psychological illusion-insecurity itself. Development is for thought. Thoughts operation as a tool to survive and so on.

@feelgoodThis comes first, the psychological aspect, or to put order in thought. Leaning and Observing of all the subtle movement of thought. First there must be psychological freedom, then one can go beyond. But don’t separate any of this. I see it all as one movement in the unveiling of truth. Personal development when it comes to the psychological realm is self perpetuation. The only thing to develop is the intellect for practical purpose. Once there is complete or psychological order, then thought operates with order.

Sure

@MiracleMan Or to put it a little clearer... not to see it as opposing concepts, but as one unitary movement of phenomenon as the experiencer, which is also one and the same movement of experience. Can you see how all these seemingly distinct concepts are actually one unitary movement of the psychological entity, “the i”?

Quite simply, (time-thought-fear), are one and the same movement as the self. Just as to register, to recollect, and to project, are one and the same movement as the veil of (experience, knowledge, memory) as the self, or as I refer to it, ones head. All a movement of psychological time as “the i”. The question is, do we see that in our own experiencing?

@BuddhaTree thank you for reading my friend. And thank you for your contribution as well.?? I appreciate your interest in this

@Big Guru Balls you as well also thanks for showing me my typing errors.

Indeed friend... Intelligent action which is (complete), doesn’t move in accordance to that which is so obviously dangerous. It sees danger and it steers clear of it. It sees the whole of the problem, and in that seeing is its ending. The seeing-understanding is action in and of itself. This is not action influenced by incomplete action, (positive and negative movement of time as the i), or a movement of (thought-the chooser), and then action. That is what we call divided action, incomplete action, or fragmented action. (Incomplete action), is a reflection of its own incoherence, and will continue to pursist, and only feed that same pattern of dualistic action.

Indeed my friend.

@cetus56 ?? First there must be freedom wiithout the positive-negative movement of time as the “i”, or (psychological becoming). In that freedom there allows the dissipation or dissolving of this formatory apparatus that @cetus56 puts it so excellently. Positive and negative movement of (self-fear), is one and the same movement as the formatory apparatus.

Is not the acceptance or rejection of self another example of positive-negative movement of the self-fear? Do we see that any movement pattern of fear will only fragment, therefore integration remains a mere abstraction, (image), or, (reward projected in time), in which there is this perpetual pursuit from what is to what should be, (psychological time)? Otherwise know as the illusion of psychological growth. How can there be integration when fear continues to feed this fragmentation? Do we see that as long as action is influenced by this false division, this contradiction will pursist, and remain bound by the dualistic movement of time? DO WE SEE THAT ACTUAL INTEGRATION IMPLIES THE ABSENCE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL FEAR? OR... DO WE SEE THAT AS LONG AS FEAR DETERMINES ACTION, ACTION WILL REMAIN INCOMPLETE-FINITE, AND INTEGRATION WILL NEVER BE ACTUALIZED?

I have been shown that by a past forum member. But i have not investigated into Harding. Headless is just a cool term.

Indeed buddy. And then more psychological attachment, fear, and striving onto psychological time. All contributors to the self feeding loop of incomplete action or action born of division, contradiction, and further fear-conflict-suffering.

When it comes to psychological matters... To seek security in a knowing, is the same as thought seeking security in itself. To seek security in pleasure, gratification, satisfaction, (thought), is a movement of fear attempting to evade itself. No matter what, to seek security in pleasure always leads to pain-suffering-insecurity. Desire seeking psychological security in pleasure, is no different than inviting pain, suffering, and insecurity. Out of the contents of the self, (experience, knowledge memory), there is the invention of the abstraction. The self strives to fulfill that particular desire-abstraction to achieve a sense of psychological security in time. As in; “I” am insecure, and “I” will depend on (experience, knowledge, memory), time, which is also that same movement of “i”,(self). The self-fear, is always insecure, and continuously strives to bring about a sense of security. This nourishes that division and strengthens that movement pattern. This Fear in movement, (experience, knowledge, memory), is one and the same movement of time as the i. But we feel deep down that the i is separate from its contents. This constant seeking shelter in thought, which is static, to anticipate that of the dynamic now, is also one and the same movement as seeking psychological security in time. What we don’t see is there is no possible way to meet the unlimited-infinite nature of THE NOW, with that of the limited-finite static nature of thought(experience, knowledge, memory). The fragment(thought), can never contain the whole,(what is). Or the dead nature of memory can never anticipate the active and alive nature of now. This frightens the self. It does all it can to maintain a sense of permanence to compensate for its own impermanent nature. The more it moves positively-negatively, the more it brings about disorder and insecurity in itself. This false division or fragmentation is what ultimately causes psychological insecurity. The self, being a fragment of thought, seeks security in another fragment that thought has itself constructed. This whole process causes insecurity, but the self doesn’t see that, and still tries to implement thought as a means to secure itself. Like trying to put out fire with fire ? As long as this false division is sustained by lack of seeing & holistic understanding, along with passive awareness to that understanding, there will be this inevitable contradiction, confusion, and therefore further psychological seeking. Seeking psychological security is a side effect of division-duality. As long as fragmentation is taking place, conflict-suffering will continue. There will be this never ending self perpetuating battle between the “experiencer” and “its” experience, what is, and what should be.

Indeed so. To be aware of all the sneaky and subtle movement of fear, presenting itself as other than fear. Fear...so elusive and intangible indeed.

You seem to get the significance quite easy my friend. ??

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@Feel Good ?? To (see-understand) this mechanical movement of fear persistently evading itself in pursuit of psychological security. Very important indeed.

How can the mechanical pattern of fragmentation integrate itself by means of time-fear. Do we see that any positive-negative movement of (fear-self ) will remain bound within the narrow corridor of division, duality, fragmentation?