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@MarkusSweden Fragmentation... “the individual” and “society/world” Control implies division, the controller and the thing to be controlled; this division, as all division, brings about conflict and distortion in action and behavior in relationship. This fragmentation is the work of thought, one fragment trying to control the other parts — call this one fragment, the controller, which tries to control “apparent parts” of thought. This false division followed by action, (divided action), is limited action and the mischief maker. The controller is the controlled. Fragmentation is the effect of seeing oneself as ultimately separate from that which is thought, felt, perceived, and so on. Or for the controller, “the i”, wants to control fear, but the controller is also a fragment of fear. Also the controller wants to control desire, but the controller is just another fragment of desire trying to control an opposing fragment of desire. Thought in its very nature is fragmentary and this causes confusion and sorrow, which effects the psychological field (psyche), and is reflected out into the world. Inwardly, is “the i” separate from fear? And outwardly, are we as “individuals” seperate from society/world? Inwardly, “the i” sets out to control fear...a fragment that sets out to to control a fragment, and so on, moving towards the abstraction. And that same inward movement of fragmentation is expressed outward born of this false notion that “the individual” is fundamentally seperate from the society, in which we invent abstract ideals and so on to solve fundamental problems that arise within that society. The fact is disorder, (the fact), is constantly evaded by seeking security in the abstraction that thinks will bring about order, by the intellect, in the form of analysis. But just as analysis cannot bring about order in the relationship with ourselves, so the same the application of analysis as applied on political science to bring about order in relationship between (man-woman) kind. This outward disorder, (corruption in society) is merely a reflection of the inner disorder of “the individual”. And vice versa.... The individual is the reflection of the society, and the society is an expression of the individual. The cause and the effect are one and the same movement of fragmentation. Political science may have its place in practical matters, but when it comes to relationship in society/the world, this application of incomplete action only causes more disorder. THIS PROCESS OF FRAGMENTATION IS THE ROOT OF THIS DISORDER, AND THE REASON FOR THIS FAILURE IN GHE ATTEMPT TO APPLY POLITICAL SCIENCE AS A MEANS TO BRING ABOUT ORDER IN SOCIETY/THE WORLD.

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Do you see what movement/process is in motion that perpetuates or nourishes this movement of fear?

? this question is for you too my friend. As you have said before...“So people believe they required more than just being present in the moment for joy, fulfillment and peace.” Do you see it? who is it that needs to be fulfilled?

@MarkusSweden what causes “the i” to seek security in “the abstraction”?

No way, as way, to headlessness Only a head knows it is, only a head knows it is not. To know or not to know, only a head questions. Only a head seeks answers, and evades problems. Only a head escapes its own invented punishment to its own projected reward. Only a head has a point of view, opinion, perspective, only a head needs one. Only a head invents and fortifies the continuity of the space between here and there, (subject-object). Time as ‘the i’ invents the space between that which is infinite(whole). What a way to utilize freedom when there is the possibility and the luxury of leisure. To sit or to walk, without absolutely any movement of identification. No movement of imagination, no movement of time as the i who is separate from THE HAPPENING. One holistic movement/non-movement of beauty and joy which is timelessness. One dynamic-stillness which is empty, yet immense. But how does this come about? A partial explanation of how this mysterious happening comes about... As the mind tries to capture the immensity of this phenomenon, it soon finds that any movement of mind to recall the event reduces the actual essence the occurrence itself. The minds capacity being finite can never express the actuality of the actuality. Nor can it really remember as there was not an entity recording in the first place. What I know after some some time investigating this movement of (dynamic stillness), which seems to be both movement and non-movement simultaneously, as strange as that may seem. In this actualized sustained passive attention, being (non exclusive), to all movement of the self-thought; there is a cessation of all positive-negative movement of volitional pursuit. Non-reaction, non-response; not to accept, or condemn, any feeling or thoughts as they arises. To let thought-feelings die on there own without introducing incomplete action as the i who controls, suppresses, and restrains. Complete negation and cessation of all fragmented action influenced by the false notion of division, as the i distinct from thought, others, and the entire happening itself. In this awareness there is not just whole undivided attention of thought-self, but also attention to all surroundings, (THE HAPPENING), in its entirety. Attention so entire that ‘the i’ who attends is totally vacant. With this total passive awareness there is no movement of registration, which then allows for an absence of recollection, in which there is no content to project itself as a veil over the next moment of now. With this comes a suspension of identification, as in No (i), time. Absolutely no static content of the self and it’s accumulation, being imprinted and carried over onto each dynamic now. With this passive awareness empty of (volition-desire), is an immeasurable beauty and mysteriousness that cannot ever fully expresses in words,(measure). There is an obviousness to this indeed. In order to see WHAT IS, “the i” with all its accumulation, being limitated and narrow must end. It’s apparent that there is not a ‘way or how to’ when it comes to the loosing of ones head. Any method, system, routine, or any other mechanical means to loose ones head implies volition-will, strife, and this perpetual desire to attain a projected goal in time. This movement of thought as the i seeking security in its own movement, is the very reinforcement of the veil of the conditioned consciousness itself. Only positive-negative movement of the i functions in such a pattern. When it comes down to it, this a question of whether or not (experience, knowledge, memory), as the i, can ‘actually’ cease to operate now. Then there can be an unconditioned seeing, void of the mechanical impulse to forecast and anticipate what may come in time. Ultimately implying that all fear-time-thought, (accumulation-projection) must cease to manifest itself. A sustained movement of non-conditioned movement of action-reaction, which is in essence, the movement of the self.

You just trying to gain a little muscle? Fish & eggs is fine.

A much more important question would be... Why does the application of political science fail to bring about order in society/world, and why will it continue failing to do so? Can anyone narrrow it down? Any other discussion about this is just an expression of that same old movement of incomplete action or (the inward compulsion of conforming to the pattern of seeking security in abstraction).( ⬅️ Hint) This pattern at play is why we look to the application of (political science) to bring about order in societies.

Is belief psychological reaction itself? Can that which is limited by reaction-conditioned response, grasp what is not? Is looking for an answer to your question..The soul - real or fake?... a movement of psychological reaction-conditions response itself? Is then matter trying to apply the movement of matter to answer questions it has itself invented? Can this conditioned movement of reaction-conditioned response end? Do we see the significance in this question?

Indeed

Holistic insight or perception seems to be very difficult for the reactionary state of consciousness, or when under the influence of the conditioned response of thought, (positive-negative movement as time).

I think you will see what we mean soon by all this.

One very persistent loop indeed⭕️

Or Movement as phenomenon.

Indeed. Simply put, “Time” & “our perception”, being one and the same movement of identification with thought.

Action & words, indeed. AS DO YOU MY FRIEND??

Right.

Ah, heavens no? To many broken fingers. Warrior hands lol

I think @robdl is referring to it as a single unitary movement as the self, (time-identification). And the awareness is referring to seeing the whole of that movement as actually one movement in motion.

Ah, cool pictures, I never heard of it though. There is a similarity?

Indeed, friend. Prospecting enlightenment, pursuit of the abstraction, away from what is, (the fact), being a perpetuation of time as the i, “the self”. Or as you say attachment or clinging to personafication.

@Jack River @cetus56 indeed, great picture

@robdl indeed Psychological time implies resistance to what is, which is to elude the inevitability of the nature of WHAT IS; continuous change. Identification, (the movement of fear), seeks certainty in the continuation of more of the same. To cling to the old, (what has been), or to deny change. When there is this process of identification in movement, the veil of the past, influenced by fear, will then project itself in place of THE NOW. If identification is in motion this movement of time has already been presupposed and action has been made in accordance to that static movement, (incomplete-finite action) Therefore, time has fed itself and placed upon itself its own limit. Time feeds off its own movement of fear, and fear nourishes that movement of time, (Causation in motion). Time-fear, being one and the same movement of identification, which is the process of (registration, recollection, and projection), or (the veil of experience as the i).

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