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To see these limits of thought one becomes free of thought. The very perception/insight of the truth of these limits is its own action of becoming free from those limits. Therefore when this is grasped the mind and it’s conditioning does cease therefore the mind does become empty. This has the quality of nothingness. Such a mind is orderly. A disorderly mind has the quality of chaos and a orderly mind has the quality of cosmos.

People think they can go from thought “the limited” to the infinite “limitless” through knowledge and so on. Then you get all this thought induced experience that sees itself independent Of thought

Self inquiry is to understand falseness and disorder in the field of reality. To understand and see the limits of thought which thinks about reality. You cant inquire into truth because the very mechanism used is limited. This mechanism Thought is limited and truth is limitless and infinite.

Anything we think about, reflect upon is within the field of reality. We Can’t know what is outside of reality. So any ideas, theory’s, concepts we have are contained within the field of reality.

All of these maya, brahman, autmen, are part of reality. ??‍♂️

@Kserkkj i think we are not meeting one another. If you want to go into it little bit. I’m open. Thanks you to for sharing.

Hmm is this came upon by watching yourself or reading something?@Kserkkj Was there anything that didn’t make sense to you that I wrote?

@Kserkkj I think so. We might actually be meeting one another. Yeah all part of conciousness... What I mean was there’s thought which is the response of memory, knowledge, experience. But then due to its fragmented nature thought attributes to itself as being independent of thought and creates the seperate entity “the self”. Through this movement of volition there then comes a movement of psychological time “becoming” to sustain continuity and permanence in a perpetual movement of desire to self sustain. It creates itself though the desire to bring about security but in so brings about insecurity. And yes reality is anything that thought thinks about. Realty is a process of thought.

Lolol Self creation within practical affairs OK ??

There is absolutely no place for memory , knowledge, and experience psychologically. Do u see that? This is the very reason there is never freedom from the self. Thought is only necessary for practical affairs

@Epsilon_The_Imperial Are you implying that all experience is self created or self induced by thought from memory, knowledge, experience?

Well now your making some sense ? u know there are wet wipes now?‍♀️

Security to maintain permanence because it sees its impermanence But in this search for security creates its own insecurity To seek security psychologically is to invite disorder into ones mind

Hmm?? ? ✂️ it out lol u rascal lol ?

The Desire to become desireless is still desire therefore not desirelessness. Lolol

I think your better off on your own ??‍♂️ But until you think that to ?‍♀️

no-thing is energy unlimited

Is your soul yours ??

@saraprGo about it like this..if your didn’t have memory could you think? If you didn’t have any knowledge of any kind could you think? If you could not experience could you think? If you didn’t have these would there even be a you?

@sarapr There’s sensory feeling. Seeing, touch, smell and so on..There’s the feeling of emotion when thought identifies with a certain censation. And creates an image of the self in relation to that image. It’s all one process. Process is ..Sensation, contact, thought/image, desire. You can find out for sure to by the way. Just got to investigate the nature and process of thought. There’s also a very very interesting surprise in that inquiry.

@sarapr You don’t think thought comes from memory?

Well I would say it depends on how alert the observer/inquirer is to the limits of thought and if one has a capacity to know when thought is attributing or inducing various experiences as independent of thought. There’s a lot of self deception that goes undetected because thought is so subtle. I’m sure your aware of this to.

@carlos flores I understand this question my friend. First of all the self is violence. You are not seperate from violence. So even if you quit fighting there will always be this movement of violence in the self. That’s the egos job, it sees itself as all important. A security system if you would like. I have always been into martial arts so I know exactly what you are asking. Let me just break right into what i think. First what is violence. Aren’t there many forms of violence. There’s the violence of division. My religion vs your religion. My country vs your country and so on. Then there’s antagonism which I see on a daily basis. Is ambition and a movment of violence? I am success driven and “I’ll do what ever I have to to get what I want”. These are all movements of violence. Any movment of self centered activity is an action of violence. What i would ask myself is why do I do this. Is my fighting an escape from my sorrow, pain, suffering, and means to bring about psychological stability. Or do I have built up anger according to the accumulation of my memory’s and so on. If these are any of the reasons I fight it’s obviously a movement of Violence. Its for you to decide. You would have to be honest with yourself though. Now if you enjoy the movements, skill involved, as I do, and mental capacity under pressure aspects of it well ??‍♂️. If you are just genuinely attracted to it and are a genuinely caring person then maybe fighting is simply an art to you. Either way the best way to not participate in violence is learning about the nature of violence. Not escaping the fact “violence” and creating an idea “non violence” to live according to. If you create an idea of non violence this simply escapes what is which is violence. This route never solves anything and leads to hipocracy and contradiction. As I said before just learn about violence. Watch it in yourself without suppression or control. Just watch it because as I said we are not seperate from violence. We are violence. Heres a quote by Bruce Lee who was a an inquirer of the self and a martial artist....”To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person.” This is essential in self knowing, and martial arts. The art of fighting and the art of living??

Perhaps this is a foolish question, but isn't suicide then the fastest way to enlightenment? Not if there is a movement of becoming. That’s the point. What this word enlightenment points to is a ceasing of becoming. The psychological entity I call the me is a movment in time/thought. The self “thought” and it’s fragmentary and divisive nature within the psychological field breeds conflict and desire. Any movement of desire is a movement of thought. If desire must cease to reach this “enlightenment” then how can the pursuit in becoming bring this transformation about? Do u see this friend?

@soul Absolute truth lol Truth in essence is independent of thought. Is this what your implying. Do you see this fact? Yes or no Do you see the truth that truth is totality independent of thought. There is truth “whole” then we make that truth into a reality “fragmented, partial, limited, conditioned ” by thinking about it?? Just a yes or no so I can know we’re meeting one another.