Faceless

Body will effect consciousness in daily life.

Age, sex, nationality, race....What’s that?? Manifestations of measurement ?

I would say intelligence is to understand the nature, structure, substance, and processes of thought. So we know when thought is applicable when not so much. To understand it’s limits we know when we have over stepped various boundaries that thought can not approach. Or to see, understand, grasp the whole of thought is to comprehend ‘hold together’ reality. One who is intelligent not only understands thought but also understands the entity that uses thought, ‘the self’. This is a necessity, this is intelligence/wisdom. This is what’s important to me.

Attention without motive is beautiful

Yeah...I don’t know of his writings but I have seen that quote. Seems he was still not quite on to it yet. I don’t investigate into the ancients though.

Thought being conciousness @Shanmugam

Lol...I understand man?

There is thought therefore I am

@Joseph Maynor Not saying we must not be be rational, logical, and reasonable. But we must know the limits of what thought/the thinker puts together. We don’t simply refuse to be rational, logical, and reasonable it’s just that we must be aware of limited nature of these tools. We must also see that we/self are a construction of these tools.

Any abstraction is a manifestation of reality itself. Abstractions are limited, conditioned, relative, and interdependent with the observer/thought...As I have said before what ever thought thinks about and reflects is a reality. We only know reality through abstractions. What we see is conditioned.

You got it buddy...Priests, gurus, psychotherapist, all the same.. People assume they have the goods. And then these goods are sold. Our pockets are picked and own are watches are sold to us?

Lololo ah man. Don’t be swindled by the any gurus. You will see there limitation soon enough. I will send you some vids if you promise to be open and put all your energy into them. They are dialogs and demand attention without any bias/prejudice. They will explain very much in deptail what that lady was saying and your understanding will perhaps go beyond what she said. Seriously man don’t put yourself lower than anyone know matter how ‘advanced’ or ‘enlightened’ they seem. Its all a big act my friend. If you are interested in some great vids let me know

@Joseph Maynor if you go back and look at my previous post you will see a connection and relationship to what was said. Only I don’t try to cram it down all at once. Or do I make it seem as romantic lol

Lol Yes it does for sure...but what is said is correct. Not a very deep explanation but the video was short. I find it would be better to take the time to make a longer video with another person to dialog with. To go steadily through to make sure people are going from point to point grasp what is said without projecting onto it like what we see so very often. She talks about the fact that you can not condemn of accept what is happening and Implies all one can do is watch/attend. That you can’t change that fact ‘what is done’ Or what is happening. This is correct. She talks about how the thinker/observer/thought/self imposes it’s own conditioned, fragmentated, imposition/impression onto reality ‘by thought’ and that that reality that is observed is not objective or a reality of itself independent of thought. Which implies that reality that is not observed by a thinker/observer would be closer to what we would call truth. This is what one would mean by Truth. Truth is not conditioned like reality. Truth is when the thinker/observer is not. Truth is independent of thought. Our reality ‘what ever the thinker/observer thinks about or reflects upon is the dream’ as “they” like to put it. Reality=truth processed and deduced from wholeness/truth to limited/fragmentation/duality/division. Through our limited conditioned observation reality/thought/observer=the dreamer and the dream. But what’s said needs to be ironed out for people that will watch this. This video won’t help other people get any closer but what she said is right. Just needs to be understood clearer and people should not accept anything unless they totaly see and comprehend what is said for themselves. People like to accept authority’s without actually going the distance themselves. This is dangerous. If what she says is seen and grasped with ones whole being then that is the beginning to freedom. Overall what is said is rational, logical, and sane. Not very detailed and explained but it was a short video. If I didn’t already grasp the ‘self/thought/ and nature of fragmentation and the reality/truth distinction’ I don’t think this vid would help me to do so. Now do people on this forum see what is said without projecting more thought on top of what is said???? That is the question ??‍♂️

Is the meaning of a dream/thought perhaps a response to memory. All dreams/thoughts are Interconected as thought is a shared phenomenon amongst human beings.

Lolol fosho

All that can be observed if you learn the nature of thought in relation to the relationship/distinction of reality, actuality, and truth. Very simple. And interesting if you go even deeper systematically step by step. One will see how everything connects more coherently.

This is correct Experience, thought, all the same. Both within that which is limited ‘thought’ even when we take a psychedelic to experience something greater than the limited ‘thought’ this is still a projection of thought.

@Nahm i watched it. Why would I need to take shrooms to watch that?

@NahmThe first video with the lady?

@Nahm what video is it ?

Lol silly i asked you what it said.

I didnt watch. What did is say?

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Unfortunately such words seem to introduce division in the kingdom of heaven. Lol no isolated spirits!!! ???????