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One who is holy has no head. When fragmentation ends there is wholeness, and when there is wholeness there is no fear, and therefore compassion is. Love has no death. Living a holy life is an art. The art of living.

@Joseph Maynor I understand man..just seems to fuel conflict, and blocks the joy of self learning to me personally. U know? Freedom to learn

We can’t do nothing because life is action. People talk about enlightenment a lot on this forum. Why?? All energy should be used to understand oneself without any motive, demand, volition. I cant imagine getting into understanding ‘the self’ with all its implications with such ‘ideas’ filling my demeanor with aspiration. Freedom and attention to oursleves sets man/woman free. People get caught in there own thought.

@Joseph MaynorI agree beliefs are not concrete and reality of itself is not limited. What are we clinging to when we are caught in conceptualization? What gives continuity to that stream of thought?

@Joseph MaynorWhat are we clinging to when we are caught in conceptualization? What gives continuity to that stream of thought?

What do you think?

Personality may differ, but ultimately we are the same, slightly modified.

I’m don’t know this what this word soul implies?? Yeah I got you....The thing is seeking may not come to an end. From what I see people seek there entire lives. Big problem seems that people are not aware that they seek. This correlates to not being aware of thought to.

And seeking the idea/projection of enlightenment in any form is still a movement of self. The seeker or demand is the barrier the self sneaky bastard isn’t it

I understand. There is a temporary relief of conflict. Cuts away at the branches, but can’t get to the root of conflict. Which is where all conflict manifests, self/thought. I see where you are coming from?

? well if you go deep enough into that u will see that it is still a movment of will/self/thought. But I don’t want to rain on any perades today. I see that those chemicals take away that space of division/separateness momentarily, but this is because the chemical reaction in the body. This is a temporary state of experience. Therefore not a fundamental revolution of consciousness. I known it clears away some conditioning, but there is still demand taking place so that implies an entity/thought seeking a attainment or goal. Either way this is somthing that must be seen and understood yourself. Can’t really accept another’s authority on this. Especially if you participate in those activities. Got to see for yourself.

That’s one problem with thought. We don’t exaclty know when it is in operation. There are no sensory organs to indicate it’s movement. It’s only shortly after that we realize there has been a movement. And sometimes we totaly miss that movement. Sneaky sneaky lol

Every effort the self ‘the entity approaching a problem according to its conditioning’ makes is from the limitation of thought. Only the storm of attention, ‘observation void of the observer’ can clear the storm of fragmentation. ?

The self takes the direction of rationalization. The center always moves in a particular direction. Be it acceptance, rationalization, or to condemn, and so on.

Lol ?

Who is the entity who’s works on its shadow?? Who is the entity who wants to become enlightened??? Who is the entity who participates in various practices to acheive???? Where there is a movement by the entity there will continue the movement in time/thought by the entity. ??‍♂️

This makes sense ?

Thought covers the whole field of daily living. Everything the human being goes through.

Emotions are included. Part of thought/self

Do Things Really Get Better??? Better than what? If there is a comparison between what is and what might be, or what has been, won’t this comparing ‘measuring’ only lead to further anxiety, depression, and fear? Do we see that when measure/thought is depended upon to bring about psychological security that there is only further insecurity and there will inevitably be contradiction and prepetual conflict. This is very interesting and quite shocking. The very thing that creates this problem of conflict, ‘thought’, is the very thing we used to try solve it. Thought creates the problem and then thought tries to solve it and only makes things worse. Talk about the dog spinning in circles chasing it’s own tail. Talk about subtle??‍♂️

Can you be born neurotic? When thought attributes to itself an existence independent of thought ‘the self’ neurosis is inevitable. So I would say neurosis is a symptom of disorderly thought.

I don’t know this Dali lama?..and I don’t anythjng about reincarnation as far as the conception. I can tell you that there is as much rascality in the center as any other. But I see it very clearly the whole movement of that center... I am not fortunate enough to have not gone through illusion ‘psychological becoming’ and deception ‘fueled by fear’. But at the same time I appreciate and have learned from illusion and deception. Any interpretation we come to as a reason of why things are the way they are to me would fall short of the truth, ‘As in of itself’ without our analyzation. I think it’s simply seeing the whole movement of the self so clear that this seeing acts as it’s own freedom. Like I said before I am not any different than any other.

?It’s not so amazing. I think it’s a common possiblity to all . It’s actually very simple. Perhaps to simple. I think the center prevents and delays this timelessness. The center being a movement of time/thought can only move in continuity to time/thought. Its not that ‘i’ meditate, but simply is it’s own action of meditation ‘attention/perception’ without the observer/the center The catch is once you say hey am I meditating you are not. Lol So its so simple that it’s extremely difficult. I’m sure you see what I mean.

Truth can never be invited. The ‘inviter’ prevents the action of truth

Thought has its place in practical matters just not the psychological realm?