Faceless

Joy can not be gone after. To go after joy is to diminish joy to mere pleasure. Joy can never be cultivated through the movement of becoming. Joy is beauty, joy is freedom, freedom is compassion, compassion is love. Joy is only when the entity who ‘goes after’ ceases. ?

@Patang??

‘What is’ is a complete action and whole. An act of perception/insight ‘truth’ in essence

I don’t know if this will make sense to another but this is how I distinguish the two Fragmentary/incomplete action THOUGHT.....Reponse of memory then images/thoughts then action according to thought. 3 step process of action Whole/complete action INSIGHT/PERCEPTION..... insight and action act simultaneously. 1 step holistic action

Lol ? I like to party lol I like to ask questions to myself like that. It goes with what you said though. You can not know the unknowable. ? the question is what can?

Makes sense that through duality and fragmentation ‘thought’ that solipsism would seem so. Thought being a fragment of the whole can not see the whole. The self is blind to anything beyond itself. The center is a function that serves a purpose. Fragmentation can never grasp anything other than itself. Fragmentation inevitably leads to further fragmentation. From here one would have to ask what is an action that is whole that can see/comprehend the whole of something such as duality/fragmentation holistically? Has anyone gone into this before? Kinda complex but interesting.

I think they have a function in certain areas. But I wouldn’t say they lead to liberation or a timeless state. I have gone into that in previous topics. Have you read any? I m not against psychedelics no matter how it may seem. But I do stress the importance of understanding experience before using them. Just to avoid problems that may arise. But overall I know they can be very helpful for some. I just don’t think they should be force fed to people caught in the trap of becoming. I hope u understand my position. I know a lot of people on here like them and I respect there decision to participate in them. And yes if somthing helps why not. If it does help of course.

??

You would think otherwise but in such relationships will tend to resist this. Because they rely on certain images that they have created about you to fulfil there own personal needs. Sounds bad and it is. But from our point of view we understand why this is happening and that they are in a way suffering form personal fears, sorrows, and so on. This is where our self awarnesss capacity to to see and understand what are going through in suffering and show comapssion and love.

No she hasn’t grasped any of this. But I think my action in daily life is expressing some interest in her. Two heads Lolol ? ??

@Charlotte i have witnessed this process in my son and it was very interesting. But rather heartbreaking to. Before he was always headless. I will do my best to make sure this is a possibly in his life of course.?

What I mean by he became self aware is around the age of 16 months and up a baby will start to develop the me, mine, duality, fragmented state of awareness. The self centered awareness. U know the me who is seperate from you awareness ? This awareness becomes more established through the starting to identify with various memory’s. This is the very thing u are starting to be rid of. U understand.?? so self awareness would imply awarness of everything and the self as separate. Where awarness of self awareness would be the start of liberation from the self. make sense friend?

Lol yeah... I chose faceless to indicate no persona. Because I feel the persona has mostly melted away. Persona/self image/mask/identity. I actually see myself the same as anohter. No difference whatsoever.

I actually understand people fairly easy but when they bring up cocepts, theory’s, I tend to not know what they are talking about. Although I can identify a theory and concept fairly easy by knowing how thought works. I think by being acclimated to different kinds of language on this site helps though.

Oddly headlessness just made sense to me. I actually feel at times that the me in the head is gone. Lol

I think you are right once agian my wise friend. Lucky I have read myself very well to see the truth of what u have said. I understand the self I would say very well. But there is always the necessity of cultivating communication. Otherwise we can’t share anything lol

Only this must be gone through by ones self. To see the correctness of it.

To see that we are blind to the ultimate truth is truth. Where there is the distortion through thought which is reflected onto reality there can not be truth. The ultimate truth cannot be known. Because to know means that truth would be the product of thought/self. Truth is only when thought/self is not. If that makes sense.

Luckily I was involved in martial arts and developed some pretty good fitness skills that I use a type of income. Health coach/trainer.

Cool ...As you do??

Yeah is agree... I have said before we can’t know truth. We can only see through perception what is false as that is a truth. For some reason u know who keeps misinterpreting my words??‍♂️ Anyway one day I hope to communicate better. In new to this to. ?

I agree.. I am glad my life went the way it did. I seem to see clearer because of this.

I have no beliefs.. nor am I in reaction to your weak attempts to cause a conflict. Your intentions are quite apparent. It’s easy to read you buddy. I have explained things to you already. But you don’t get it. That’s your problem not mine. Not go bug someone else lol. Every movement you make is from self centered action. It’s totaly obvious. Your not fooling anyone. k??

None thank heavens...family life was real bad so I wasn’t expected to go. Actually worked out for the best even though they didn’t do that on purpose lol.

Lolol I’m thankful for a free mind