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I agree? To me it is possible. I wouldn’t recommend anything I didn’t do myself. And also in grasping psychological time one starts to understand experience much more in depth. Understanding experience ‘time’ becomes very own movement from time. And also prevents all the various traps of seeking experience like we see so very often, which lead to further time ‘becoming’ or self

@Saumaya When I grasped psychological time it was at that exact moment I became free from it. When I saw the falsness of it it was finished. All those traumatic events lost significance. Although I didn’t know about ‘psychological time’ as a concept then I did understand it through my own personal reflection. Might be somthing to investigate? its rather interesting and practical in application.

I agree ? physicaly and psychologically more traumatic perhaps. Depends on the effect of the experience on thought and the chemical processes of the brain. When something like that happens there could be an actual change in the brain cells themselves

I wouldn’t say reading books isn’t bad at all. As long as you are looking at your own experiences and relating them to the content of a particular book this could be a first hand learning experience. As long as your not getting caught in others ideas of course. I’m sure you get what I mean. You should be able to see what is discussed in relation to yourself. If what’s said is to abstract it’s hard to grasp it deeply.

@Shin I grew up in a very violent family being abused psychologically and physically. I witnessed a lot of traumatic events personaly and in people close to me. War veterans may go through more traumatic events but then we are only talking about degree of ptsd right?

I’m with you.. any movement of self is in relation to thought, emotions/beliefs the twisting may be from the fact that there is no proprioception of thought. We don’t see when thought is moving and when it is not. We also don’t see that movements of thought are always in relation to the self.

I understand? ptsd does have to do with experiences. Thought memory, experience

I got ya.. where do you think neurosis manifests from?

If there is a movement of psychological time taking place there is neurosis

Study thought directly The self is the book of time ‘psychological becoming’ ?

so after this chemical is taken ‘one time’ one is cured and lives in nothingness? One is free from conflict in chasing the illusion of psychological time? One is not caught in the movement of becoming?

Word lol ?

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Well said friend? Any attempt to change what is to what we want only brings about insecurity. Seeing the truth of this is freedom from the mechanical compulsion to project our own wants and needs ‘ideas’, to what is actually happening ‘the fact’ Longing for security only leads to insecurity. Security is only in the unoccupied mind.

Life is action. I agree with you though. Action without motive is necessary??

I feel ya. Sometimes action is necessary lol

I’m fine ..I speak what I want to speak

@SOUL please don’t respond back lol

@SOUL Lol I understand, and I answered your question on the false myth. You still misunderstand what I try to tell you and you don’t seem to want to see for yourself. And I don’t block my family out either. Actually the opposite. My family is my life so don’t go there pal. And ‘i’ can not be an enlightened guy. I don’t even care about being enlightened one bit. I’m simply interested in the mind. Now please as I said before go be personal with someone else. Lets just go about our lives huh

Freedom from becoming ‘desire’ makes the everything much more interesting and joyful.

This stuff is really interesting. The outcome is besides the point. ??

Lol no acceptance or condemning my friend. You are not separate from the numbness/thoughts. The ‘You’ is a product of them. ?

@EtherInvestigate without a motive to ‘become’. Just to investigate. Like a good scientist goes out and oberves wildlife. There can be no tampering with what is. No imposition by the scientist. Just there to observe. Climb the mountain without any intent of reaching the top??‍♂️

Investigate the nature/structure/process of experience, thought, the self. This wil help.

@EtherTook me three days to become free from the self. Been learning how to communicate it the last 11 months. Communication is the hard part. Don’t let anyone tell you this has to be a drug out process. That’s utterly false my friend. Thats the beauty of it. That’s wassup. ?