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This is not about adding to the mind. It’s simply observing all the contents of your own conciousness as it currently is. I’m using words to communicate which is in the form of ideas and concepts, but I’m not basing any of this off of conforming to what others have said being philosophical ideas, theorys and so on..All this is comes from exploring yourself. I had always somewhat observed my self throughout my life. This realization and sense of no center was accidental or not invited ‘which I later realized had to do with the ending of psychological time’.... So when I went to inquired into what had happened at that point this made my inquiry much more straight and rational. Or prevented my own bias and prejudices from interfering. I didnt have a goal in mind when inquirig. The clinging to the knower ‘which is the known’ This isn’t a recipe for any particular specified goal. It’s simply understanding yourself or reading the manual to yourself. I have tried to say before you can not use time ‘thought’ to silence. Once psychological time ‘all movements of psychological becoming’ end so does the knower/ the known. At that point all seeing, striving, searching and grasping for psychological security ends. The only thing I ever say to others is to explore themselves. Which has to do with everything I talk about. Look for yourself. Don’t miss the subtlety of it. It’s very easy to do.

It’s simply going into yourself. Ok ? Again you don’t seem to understand. Im sorry buddy??‍♂️

@TruthSeeker47 also your most likely already ware of this as it is inherent in the thinker/thought movement. Thought/and volition Functions in this direction

Of course. Let me know if you don’t find anything ?

Yep??

The illusion of time is the result of thought.?

If you read some of quotes and writings his wife Linda lee has kept its apparent he understood very very deeply the nature of psychological time. one who is free doesn’t any longer desire to be free. It’s obvious to me he was aware of that.?

yeah as he got older he stoped meditating, as far as the sitting cross leged, concentrated, type of meditation. At this point he he realized that it was no necessary for himself. He had at that point freed himself psychologically from all forms of traditional /cultural patterns and movements to become. Psychologically speaking of course. For him his art was the equivalent to how monks meditate. Concentrated movment of will, demand, concentration/focus. He understood thought/ego so well that he didn’t see in any purpose in that type of meditation. He did spend a lot of time doing what I think people call mindful meditation. Meditation being total attention wihtout control, suppression, to change what is to what should be. Also he was a very serious self inquirer which led to even deeper quieting of the mind to a point where his center ceased. Im not sure how quiet his mind got but from what he says he seems to have had a taste of this sense of no center. He was a cool dude ?

The knowledge and skills you have achieved are meant to be forgotten so you can float comfortably in emptiness, without obstruction. Bruce Lee To realize freedom the mind has to learn to look at life, which is a vast movement, without the bondage of time , for freedom lies beyond the field of consciousness care for watching, but don't stop and interpret "I am free," then you're living in a memory of something that has gone before. Bruce Lee Only when the known ceases ‘that which is static, dead, and bounded’ can there be the possibility to live in the dynamic, alive, and boundless infinite realm of timelessness.

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I haven’t read any books on it. I have read material on psychological time. Mostly when I say time I mean movements of thought/ego Timeless being that which is result she time bound movement ceases. Although I learned this through self observation and inquiry I do know that Eckhart Tolle goes into psychological time. Also David Bohm and I have stumbled upon other who brought it up in quotes and such. Can’t remember there names though. But I have never read any books myself so. I like to go into it myself as much as possible. Try those and see what you get?

No problem. But you will see its not about cultivation of truth. When silence comes into being and mind is no longer bombarded by its conditioning only then can truth be. Just work on yourself and thought will quiet. But remember silence can not be cultivated. Only thought can be cultivated. Do you see that silence can not be cultivated? That cultivation of thought can not lead to silence? Important to remeber that through volition and thought ‘knowledge, memory, and experience can be cultivated, which implies ‘time’ ...But it’s not about cultivation of time to improve and get to that timelessness ‘silence’ but more about a comprehending or understanding of the whole of thought/ego. In that understanding acts as its own action as silence. By seeing the falsness that cultivation of time can lead to silence this prevents one from even moving in that direction. This is intelligent action. Do some research Check out the Nature and processes of thought of thought/ego and its relationship to time/timeless. To understand this a little better. Also check out psychological time as in the movement of becoming. Crucial step to understand time and the timeless. It’s really interesting once you get into it?

Hehehe? Imponderable?? Even for a simple illiterate like me this is quiet a easy to go into. Just takes honesty. Has nothing to do with philosophy? Unless there is freedom from the knower then one is not actually fully in the present moment. If the past is a carried over by thought and that thought is projecting a future then the now becomes simply a continuation of the past and a projection in anticipation for the future. Yes all now is all there ever is, but not if thought imposes time past/future on top of the present. In that sense one is always time bound and therefore not present and attentive to ‘now’ this is quite simple. Has nothing to do with abstraction either. It’s simply a matter of observing yourself honestly. It has nothing to do with conforming to ideas, philosophy’s, concepts, and theory’s. It’s about being sensitive to see yourself for what you are without imposing will or volition to change what is to what you think should be. Because if you do that contradiction and conflict is inevitable and only makes more chaos. Awareness has nothing to do with exercises. It’s knowing ones own limits and inner workings. Its understanding that intellectual knowledge and the compulsion to seek through the movement of ‘psychological time’ being exercises, methods, and systems only lead to further confusion and conflict. Those types of activity’s are suppose to be fun. It actually takes a simple mind to do this. A complicated mind bombarded by ideology’s, philosophy’s, and conceptualizations is to muddled to ever reach the point of space and silence. For mind to be free the conditioned ‘me’ and it’s accumulation ‘content’ must end. It’s not complicated at all. It does take all ones energy. This space/silence doesn’t take years of accumulating knowledge or years of mechanical forms of meditation. It’s actually quite less complicated than what I see prescribed to others on this forum. Just can t be lazy. It’s very very simple. Maybe to simple. Truth is only when thought is not. It’s not somthing to be known. It’s not something to be achieved. It has nothing to do with ‘you’ Truth is only when you are not. Truth is the product of silence/space and is timeless. Therefore anything of time implies that truth is not. Truth is action free of time, free of conditioning, free of the center. Again you don’t know truth. But truth is expressed as a whole movement free of psychological time. Harmony already is, but if we are bound by the limits of our conditioning there is no harmony. Again it’s not about knowing or experiencing truth. Truth is action born of silence and space. Truth is only when the you ‘the thinker and the thought cease. In this state you are truth. Has nothing to do with knowing absolute truth or experiencing absolute infinity. It’s much more subtle and simple than that.? You don’t have to do anything lol Always be your own teacher. No body can help you either. That’s the beauty of it. Haha ?

Real strength is determined by the suppleness of body/mind??

One does not accumulate but eliminate. It is not daily increase but daily decrease. The height of cultivation always runs to simplicity. Bruce Lee

Observe what is with undivided awareness. Bruce Lee

Well lol, who ever is reading these posts. Which i see as MYSELF??‍♂️

?The beauty of it is if there is a emtiness, timeless, ceasing of the center, or the knower and the known come to an end then all that I s left is wholeness, intelligence, creation, and love /compassion. It’s not the understanding/experiencing of non duality but more the non experiencing through the dualistic realm that the other comes into being. This is what I mean by this timeless state not being dependent on time. It’s quite simple. If there is a total ceasing of the center ‘being a seeing without the knower influenced by the known’ only then can the illusionary sense of seperatness be integrated to wholeness. When there is no sense of ‘the knower’ and all that is left is awareness this is what people refer to as non dual. And as we have said before in our conversations it’s all about embodiment? You see @TruthSeeker47 A great way to think of it is you don’t want to go beyond where you haven’t yet begun. Its very important that you simply investigate the nature of yourself as it is actually at present time. Not controlling, suppressing, trying to change what is to what you want to be, but simply observing with total attention. The cluttered mind will cease to manifest itself in contradiction and confusion.. There will be a deep rooted quietness. Or what is known as space/silence. I hope you see the significance of exploring yourself buddy. When there is silence/space then truth is.??

Self inquiry must go much much deeper than that though?..One has to go into the nature of thought, ego, time, psychological becoming, fragmentation, nature of realtiy, actuality, truth... nature of fear, conflict, and division and more. @TruthSeeker47 Might want to investigate the art of inquiry a little more in-depth on your own. Also pay a lot of attention to the nature of thought/ego and its tendency to move in the direction to become psychologically secure. Psychological time ‘movement in becoming’ is significantly important. Start with these so you can develop a sense of freedom from you own bias and prejudices so the inquiry can run a little more honestly. Because thought will deceave itself when ever it goes undetected. If you inquire deep into these along with fear and the compulsion to escape fear you will develop a capacity to detect these movments to self deceive and can rip them out at the root before they grow out of control. You will be able to navigate the corridors of thought more efficiently without identifying with thoughts which will lead to distortion, contradiction, and prepetual conflict. If there is a tendency to get caught up psychologically your ability to think rationally, logically, and reasonably will prevent the inquiry from running straight. One must remember you are alone in this. We are responsible for our own state of being. Don’t waste your time listening to people that you aren’t even sure live what they preach. Be your own teacher. And most importantly enjoy exploring yourself? Anyway good luck ?

I do my exploring directly. I’ve explored all those in my self already ?? thanks buddy?

Effort within the mind further limits the mind, because effort implies struggle towards a goal and when you have a goal, a purpose, an end in view, you have placed a limit on the mind. Bruce Lee To express yourself in freedom, you must die to everything of yesterday. From the 'old', you derive security; from the 'new', you gain the flow. Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee was much wiser than people think. His self inquiry approach was fantastic. Truth comes when your mind and heart are purged of all sense of striving and you are no longer trying to become somebody; it is there when the mind is very quiet, listening timelessly to everything. Bruce Lee

Yeah i have only seen part of one of his videos. And yes I have noticed the not reading of post responded to thing as well. That’s the nature of clinging to the known for ya. Like I said if people can’t even listen to you and reply accodingly, whats the point??‍♂️ Right??

I'm so lost and confused over Enlightenment. Stop watching the videos and reading what others have said and explore yourself. Second hand knowledge and conformity to abstractions leads you knowhere. Exploring yourslef very deeply is essential Its the only way? No body can help you but you. Thats the good news?