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Indeed personal development of psychological evolution is seen through. Oddly many think of it as grim. Not the case one bit.

Thought identifies itself with that sensation and through identification the 'I' is built up. ? fragmentation !!?

Indeed thought is sensation. Mind is part of sensation. Mind stores sensation (memory), which reacts as experience. So that memory, experience responds as thought which determines experience. Experience implies recognition of the old(experience, knowledge, memory), the old. Self feeding loop.

Indeed i don’t see thought as distinct from experience. One and the same movement of registration, recollection, which responds-projects.

Especially the authority of experience(time).

It can definitely bring about identification if there is reaction to that collective sorrow. Then it can cause one to hold it in and begin to suffer themselves. If there intelligent action preventing conditioned action-reaction then that sensitivity can be sustained without the identification effecting you. So for me that collective sensitivity happens naturally by not reacting positively of negatively. How long has this phenomenon been the case for you @Serotoninluv?

@Serotoninluv you’re caught in the sensitivity field as well? Only happens when there is no identification. Identification seems to inhibit that sensitivity. Otherwise there is only the body’s particular feelings which override the collective.

When there is insight into the whole of experience, knowledge, memory(THOUGHT), this question becomes quite obvious. This holistic insight does not depend on the accumulation of knowledge, experience, memory,(time). Cultivation of the intellect, as in gradual progress; conceptual understanding, comprehension, and so on, being the conditioned movement of thought, have absolutely nothing to do with SEEING THE WHOLE OF THOUGHT. The conditioned movement of time can never capture the whole of time. The study of Science(time), has its place in practical-functional affairs, but when it comes to answering questions about that which is beyond the limitation of time, then (thought-time), implicitly sets its own limit and incoherently tries to transcend that very limit.

I Can't Comprehend Non-Duality? “The i”, and this response of thought, (comprehension), both being one and the same..(CONDITIONED MOVEMENT) DUALISTIC MOVEMENT OF TIME AS “THE i”

“My” and the belief, one and the same movement of past, present, future(TIME).

The book of yourself ... “The stream of consciousness”

That’s not an opinion

Indeed.. as a state is implies being fixed.

@cetus56 NO EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE NO DESCRIPTION POSSIBLE NON-REGISTRATION, NON-RECOLLECTION, NON-PROJECTION THE ENDING OF EXPERIENCE ...HEADLESSNESS??

Indeed... Thought-self/fear-psychological seeking to end that fear... all a material process of the organism.

As to be aware of such contradicting action (positive-negative movement of the self), one then doesn’t feed that divisive pattern of fragmentation, and in freedom without that limited conditioned action, intelligent action manifest on its own... By letting truth act in, and of itself. The holistic insight of all this as one unitary movement is itself intelligent action, which is infinite action; whole-NOT FRAGMENTED/DIVISIVE.

Indeed... well said!!

Yes.. i think it’s wise to be aware of all this. By the way I made an edit on that part. Lol

Oh yes.. It both wants to end itself, and sustain its own movement simultaneously. Tricky little devil isn’t it.

I would say definitely. If one goes into it deep enough they will find that this movement of reaction-action being a conditioned pattern, will definitely alter the course of the pursuit. It may indeed contribute to corruption/self deception. good points @robdl. Truth is not the result of action-reaction in pursuit. There is great significance in this. Nevertheless, @Leo Gura and @cetus56 are right, one has to be willing to step into the unknown willingly. This can also happen without the intent of seeking truth, and simply by ceasing to resist what-is, because one sees holistically it’s implications-consequences. This is also known as intelligent action. Action born of, and as truth.

I would say it is quite possible. This can also be seen as a movement of action-reaction.

Root may very well be seeking security in the abstraction in which thought invents. A movement from what-is, to what should be. Perhaps uncertainty seeking security in certainty. Being a movement of measure; THOUGHT, there is made the distinction between “lower” or “higher”, and then thought-self places itself somewhere within that field of reference. Being a movement of measure and due to ones preconceptions accumulated over time one then out of its bias-prejudice judges itself as lacking. A movement of comparison; I am “this”, but the program of “i” nudges me to pursue “that”. A perpetual movement from A to B.....A movement of psychological time. Ultimately a movement of division-fragmentation. Quite important to go into indeed.

Definitely ?

@cetus56 @robdl I’m wondering how my son will turn out not being subject to rather common compulsion of one image in opposition to another. As in boyfriend-girlfriend/man and wife... I don’t think he has ever witnessed such a disorderly experience. When I was younger it was but a routine.

Yes... Identification implies self-sustainment or to adhere to that specific image indeed. A defense mechanism.