Carl-Richard

That's just my personal bias towards you Haha jk. My main advice or wish for how these types of disagreements can be alleviated is to not treat non-duality or awakening as something special, or as "the Truth and the only Truth", or as a reason to treat somebody as beneath you, or to criticize their character. Awakening is just one facet of life, and people have disagreements about what awakening even is. It's best to keep the format or style of the conversation as normal and empathetic as possible, just as if you were talking about the weather, or your favorite animal, or other less spiritual facets of personal development.

If you want to survive as an organism, pleasure and pain cannot be ignored. They can be approached in more or less conscious ways, but they're essential for survival. It seems like you're calling it a presumed lack because you can just choose to die. That is not a very relevant proposition (in my "living" opinion). I would say addictions tend to develop when there is something "wrong" (e.g. a lack in fundamental human needs or unresolved emotional issues or trauma), and it breeds on the compulsive and unconscious mechanisms fundamental to the human condition (the same mechanisms that force you to breathe, or drink water, or scratch your arm; "lower" forms of survival). And that is why they're so hard to unwind: they're so deeply ingrained into you. You have to essentially do a full system reboot to get a significant chance of change, which is why spiritual experiences or other extreme conditions like rock-bottom experiences are some of the very few reliable predictors of recovery.

I'm thirsty. Do I lack water or is that a presumed lack?

If you see something that other people don't usually see, it can be labelled as a hallucination. Essentially, society dictates what is a hallucination or not.

Addictions are compensations for a lack.

My model is: more developed = more meaning and being.

Feeling like you're dying inside a university lecture is pretty horrible

Gary Weber once said that non-duality has to be better than sex, or else nobody would be meditating

If you're doing what you're meant to be doing (e.g. as a person in terms of life purpose, or as an organism in terms of healthy behaviors), and you have the right support around you and you've had time to build up momentum, things that look hard actually become not hard at all. I don't find going to the gym to be hard. I've been doing it for so long that I find it harder to not go to the gym. Of course, adapting to something new can be hard, but once you've adapted to it, it's just normal.

It's fun chasing death, but when death is chasing you, shit gets real ☺️

@mmKay ?

Is Leo a geek or a chad?

So again, if you're authentically a geek and want to not be a geek, you would then be driven by external forces, which is a higher likelihood of failure, and then nobody would appreciate you. Andrew Tate was never a geek. He is authentically a "chad". He played Chess when he was 5, sure, but I remember he had some non-geek reasoning for why he started kickboxing. Will to power? I just see two happy guys who like podcasting ?

You were sort of inching yourself towards this point yourself, but I don't see how geeks and nerds are necessarily anti-action, or people who are doing nothing in the world. That would rather be stoners, gamers and losers. Like you say with Hegel, reaching the top even in an intellectual field necessarily involves taking some real world actions to further your own interests. And if you are a geek or a nerd, you're better off being authentic to that if you want to be a man of action in any fashion, rather than letting outside forces dictate you (which is inherently less motivating and a high predictor of failure and misery, and thus no action, i.e. you become a loser).

Just wait until you die while sitting in an university lecture trying to listen to what the teacher is saying ?

I literally cannot understand what you're saying.

It's my Meshuggah fixation again, but damn, the tempo at which they played this song was absolutely perfect.

I've had that thought. But do you ever get sad that you'll miss the experience of the Sun devouring the Earth 5 billion years from now? FOMO isn't always a negative It would be interesting, but then you would get used to the new world very fast and it would all seem like normal to you.

You're saying this at the cusp of the AI revolution

The type of solipsism I'm talking about is an abhorration of idealism. It's quite literally like confusing a single atom with the entirity of the universe. Of a tormented mind, maybe; of a confused mind looking for answers, maybe; of a curious mind trying to make sense of itself, certainly.

Solipsist*

You didn't miss anything here

Yes... just like direct experience is a concept. This is another case of "other people don't exist lol, yet I'm choosing to act a certain way towards them". You gotta work on becoming consistent in your communication.

@Razard86 "Direct experience" can be misleading. Consider the concept of "pure knowing": pure knowing is beyond any thing that is known. Being identified with pure knowing, beyond any thing, any ego, any limited identity, any thought or perception, is what it's about.

Very based.