Carl-Richard

Again, this is what I think and feel. No claims of Absolute knowledge. This should be obvious and not something that needs to be said. This overly defensive attitude is indicative of the very dynamic I'm pointing out. Everything that is said is not that serious. It's a thought, a feeling. You can share it without expecting it to be taken as some absolute insight into reality that must be adopted or else you're fooling yourself and not being openminded enough, etc. By reading the quotes in the original thread, what do you think I was pointing out? By reading what I literally said in a later comment in the thread, after being done hearing what other people might think about it, what do you think I was pointing out? And how do you think therapy might possibly tie into it? And do you think I was sincere in suggesting that as a genuine solution or step in the right direction, or was that just an expression of outrage? Let's hear what you think and feel. No need to "you can't know this" anymore. That's done now.

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Most impeccable and melodically interesting neo-classical guitar solo you'll come across: 1:40

He might've been a few years off with his prediction (2012), but other than that, pretty god damn spot on.

Me wishing Leo to go to therapy is done out of love. And the "child-parent" narrative is cute, perhaps projection.

5307 post andy. 60k post andy.

You can be extremely sincere and still be egoic. No problem there.

This was the humoristic part of the conversation, where everything that needed to be said had been said and we came to a respectful conclusion, yes with jokes and laughter. That you still are carrying some tension throughout that exchange, might be indicative of something. Is there something you have on your heart that you want to say? I've always wanted to say that Leo might benefit from therapy in some way or another. And I think this was a great way of saying it, it went much better than I had expected, I did not plan it either, it simply happened because it was maybe the right thing to happen (or not, who knows). As for having a closed mind, I've already said to you directly that I can't know whether Leo is the most awake person in the universe or not and I should have an open mind about that. I'm only saying what I think and feel (just like Leo is saying what he thinks and feels that no other teachers are as awake as him). This was also said in the part of the earlier post about you should perhaps trust your estimation of things sometimes and that "I should have an open mind", even if it can be a virtuous position to have (which it often is), can be a way of fooling yourself. It's never an either/or answer to these things. It depends on what you think and your sense of what is right and reasonable in a given situation.

Anything emotionally disruptive that has happened to you in the past that affects you in the present in the direction of pathology (or coping mechanisms for that pathology), which is always a spectrum. Trauma means "wound".

Maybe I'm too far gone down the non-dual Buddhist rat rabbit hole. Maybe an old dog doesn't learn new tricks 🐕‍🦺

Sure

I'm merely suggesting a possible tool for you, sir. My feeling is you have something from the past that is driving something in the now. It might not be big, it might not be flashy, it might not even be interesting. But it might explain a lot of what is going on. But yes, feel free to not listen to my feeling. But then I will not listen to your feeling that "other teachers are not awake", how about that?

We're claiming they affect how you evaluate your own mind, and it might not be limited to just the short-term. After all, the insights during the trips stay with you after the trip, do they not? Imagine telling somebody to take psychedelics and that it might be hugely beneficial for their life, and they answer "I'm just clear that it won't". Trauma is as illusive as it is subtle. That trauma must be hard and obvious is a deep misunderstanding. Not even as a curiosity you're willing to explore your own mind from the outside?

Do you see, considering me and other's critiques on how psychedelics impact your mind, how that might be a problem? Could perhaps an outside view be pertinent for this kind of work?

I mean, you can say that, but is that really like you? Could it maybe be a deeply ingrained thing? Perhaps a trauma thing? Have you gone to therapy before?

Does being highly egoic, highly judgemental, highly in need of asserting superiority, to put things down, to speak in a highly charged and emotional language, affect your ability to see things clearly, to make contact with reality, or not? Consider that you might dislike many arrogant statements not because they are arrogant but because they are untrue. It might not be as much that you dislike the statement "I'm the most awake person in the universe" because it's arrogant, but because you think it's in any reasonable estimation not true. And you should sometimes trust your estimation of things. They might be entirely correct, and you might be fooling yourself that they aren't, perhaps for some other virtuous reason: "I can be given Absolute Truth, if only I accept this possibility. Maybe the arrogance is just noise, maybe my strong disgust and disbelief is an ego-defense mechanism". And that's ironically a perfect way to self-deceive yourself. And what's the alternative to making such harsh and egoic statements about everything (and I mean literally everything, read Leo's blog, as @Joshe pointed out and which you should be perfectly aware of by now anyway)? What is it that Leo puts down so often? What is it that these other teachers teach where the goal is seeing through the illusion of the ego, seeing through the illusion of flashy experiences, of cool insights into the play of mind and Maya? It's the teaching of Enlightenment. What is it that countless of highly conscious and respectful and virtuous people have left the forum over or been kicked out over for daring to speak favorly of? @Moksha @Nahm @Tim R @mandyjw @Consilience Enlightenment. Are you for enlightenment or are you for chasing ever more flashy and impressive experiences, ever more flashy hallucinations during psychedelic trips, ever more flashy existential insights thrown up by your hallucinatory human mind? Just so you're not confused, Leo seems to be quite clearly for the latter, not the former.

What changed between the quotes from "earlier Leo" and the quotes from 2026 Leo?

I have 16030 posts on this forum. So yes.

Wait is this for real? Like actually for real? And my parents say I have OCD.

I'm just asking what you think.

What was quoted here was quite consistent across time. In fact, I can remember he saying something similar two days or so ago (it's in some of the quotes). So is it something he said you have a problem with, or what?

What is your position on using air purifiers with ionization?

What's the problem?