Carl-Richard

Meanwhile I started watching Leo because he is just so god damn fine

@Flowerfaeiry ❤️

Oh man, the dude self-diagnoses himself as a sociopath with violent tendencies, has admitted to having persecutory auditory hallucinations, uses people dying of cancer (including his dad) to prove a point etc.. He's truly some dude. Still, he is mostly on point regarding veganism.

The poor guy probably got wooshed very bad. Were you talking about non-duality?

Well, that is certain a long rabbit hole hahaha

But let's be fair, did that one really hurt though?

Where does Richard find these people? ? The guy legitimately sounds like he belongs in an institution.

I'm sorry, I didn't see that you quoted Joe Rogan in your earlier comments. I'm sorry that I've wasted your time. ?

Yes

Well exactly, it's cringey because you deliberately exposed them to your work and they focused on your looks. Most people here aren't familiar with Anna's work and have only been exposed to her looks. Then you should expect where the attention will go.

Bro tone it down a bit. It's now a serious discussion. I don't associate with this.

There is a danger of that happening of course, but that doesn't mean they're mutually exclusive. It's just that one comes before the other. One is more "apparent" (literally).

The reason people find vegans particularily annoying is because they actually know deep down that they have a point, which creates cognitive dissonance and all that jazz.

So you admit that you're complicit in it? ? I sense a sliiight hypocrisy

Jethro Tull - Aqualung

Look at how we're treating women on this forum. Disgusting ? ?

Spirituality is apparently about shaming people who have a reaction to people with high Shakti ?

WHAT ? By eating primary consumers (herbivores; cows, chicken), you're actually using 10x more food (in calories) than if you were to eat the same amount of calories in primary producers (autotrophs; plants, algae). Even worse, by eating secondary consumers (carnivores; salmon, sardines), you're using 100x more food. Tertiary consumers (for example tuna) is 1000x more food. People who are unusually annoyed by vegans are usually unaware of their own biases. You didn't actually use your rational mind to arrive at your current diet if you're eating what you're parents are eating. When vegans point this out, people tend to freak out. Yes, veganism has its flaws, the followers are often dogmatic, but if you take time to understand their arguments and if you're able to practice self-honesty regarding your own dietary habits, then maybe vegans will become a little less annoying.

Accepting death in the moment is both the ultimate short-term and long-term solution for your life. You remove all fear both from the present moment and the last moment of your life

You're denying the power of Shakti ?

But you will die so that will happen anyway

It's not that simple though. The culture and the individuals inside it live in a transactional relationship: they're constantly impacting eachother while it inches its way up the developmental ladder. It's not merely a question about cognitive development. If you can't express your Orangeness in the culture you're living, it's not a mature or grounded expression of that stage. Culture wasn't anywhere near Orange 2500 years ago. The reason why so many people are Orange today is exactly because the culture is centered around Orange. Green is also getting well-established for that same reason. It's not like you had mature Orange or Green people 2500 years ago, even the 0,1% most advanced people were at most only expressing bits and pieces of the cognitive aspects of those stages. The cognitive aspect is just one of many.

On the topic of genius, Socrates was supposedly at the same level of non-dual awareness as Buddha and Jesus according to Ramaji's LOC 1-1000 system. It's maybe not surprising considering the impact he had on Greek society and the level of charisma and fanbase he built up during his life. Personally, I think it makes sense when you look at his teachings: "I know that I know nothing", his concern with truth and its relationship to the divine, the fact that he didn't actually bother to create a metaphysical model (unlike Plato) and instead just prefered asking people questions and exposing their ignorance . The way he accepted his death by drinking the poison chalice also seemed rather selfless: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Socrates If you look at Jesus and the way people interpreted his teachings through a Blue lens, the same could've happened for Socrates but through an Orange lens. In that sense, it looks like behind every large cultural shift in history, there is a mystic trying to spread the word of God

They laid the ground work for Orange in many ways by exploring the cognitive aspects (and some political aspects) of the stage, but there are so many different aspects of Orange that couldn't arise in that climate due to the surrounding underdeveloped culture. "Rationality" as a way of life is of course Orange, and the Greek philosophers started that, but realize that they were extremely cutting edge for their time. They didn't have a lot to go on but their own speculative theories. Orange didn't truly start to seep into the public arena before the Enlightenment period (which is what I'm interpreting as "coming online" regarding the OP's question). The groundwork had then been laid and society was evolving on multiple fronts to embrace this new level of development. The question about how rational the Greek philosophers really were is also not so straightforward. Realize how privileged we are to grow up in a culture where so called formal operational cognition (Piaget) is a main course in our childhood diet. It's so easy to underestimate the power of this dynamic unless you've actually travelled back in time or travelled to some very underdeveloped country. Today's children in modern society will for this reason start to unlock the cognitive capacities of Orange at around 11 on average. The Greek philosophers were essentially just at the cusp of that level (although comparing the minds of a child and an adult is rather frisky). They were pushing the edge of the culture step by step, all on their own. Imagine the absolute genius it takes to be stuck with no previously laid down groundwork, no theoretical frameworks, nothing but your own imagination, and then trying to understand the world with essentially the level of nuanced thinking of a modern day 11 year old. Mindblowing stuff.