Carl-Richard

This thread will go bye-bye if you guys don't start behaving soon.

On the contrary, eating healthy food, doing heavy exercise and even doing your work on time can be experienced as maximally desirable and beneficial in the immediate short-term. It just depends on your preferences, which can be changed drastically. I'll use myself as an example: I used to be a full-time stoner back in my late teens; potato chips, pizza, porn and energy drinks 24/7. Then when I discovered meditation and quickly got my first non-dual glimpse, I noticed a couple of days into this new existence that the level of enjoyment I got from eating a pizza had become rather empty. It was such a drastic effect that I'll never forget it. It literally felt empty (they don't call it discovering emptiness for nothing ). Then after years of integrating this understanding into my life, my approach to food, physical exercise and even work itself has completely inverted. It's based on a shift from preferring impulsive and explosive bursts of indulgence (hedonism) to preferring a stable, subtle and refined state of consciousness. It's not really reducible to the dichotomy of long vs. short term: the pleasurable effects of eating healthy food is felt both immediately in the moment, as well as the hours, days and weeks afterwards. It's both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation, short and long-term benefits. Same with exercise and following work schedule. Exercise for me has become more and more like a perpetual flow state. There is really no struggle or suffering associated with it. Body and mind are completely aligned, everything is working at optimal performance, effort is pleasure. Similarly, doing work on time fulfills an energetic need in the body. Ignoring work poisons the mind with fear, worry and anxiety, which in turn poisons the body. The distractions, the explosive indulgence, is no longer seen to be the primary desire. That isn't to say they're not experienced in some form or another, but no longer in transaction for baseline health, but rather as a way to complete it.

70% of Norway's terrain is mountainous, half of the country is too far north to grow anything.

People's diets were shit back in the day. This only became a problem in the 1970s as diseases of poverty fell during the previous decades, causing a subsequent rise in life expectancy and a shift towards diseases of lifestyle. It's absolutely possible to be normal weight on a sub-optimal diet.

Try growing food in Norway ?

Because they are more able to account for contextual factors like geopolitics. You just gave a purely individualistic analysis.

@Fleetinglife ❤

Back when I used to smoke, this only used to be a problem before my awakening. After that, my mind would be blank; no anxiety, no paranoia. I distinctly remember one time that me and 3 other stoned dudes drove all the way to McDonalds and then all of them were too paranoid to want to order anything. I had to spend 10 minutes persuading one of them to join me. The lesson is that it's all in your mind.

People aren't empty suits. You are wearing them.

? Good that it's not only me.

https://civilizationemerging.com/what-i-learned-about-being-a-man-from-my-dad/

I actually thought about making my own topic about it way before Roy made that comment, but then I realized it's not needed. You can stop your crusade now.

Other staff members will find out about it.

? Yep, and what he wants is clearly defined in the moderator guidelines

Then those mods are actually breaking the moderator guidelines

You know what that board is called? It's called Leo, as clearly demonstrated by yesterday's events. If you have problems with me in the future, there is a report button.

Sure, it sounds reasonable if you want to minimize risk. I still think it will be a bit tedious though. Moderation happens at the edge of disagreements. That is where violations occur. Usually, the way you discover these disagreements is by being engaged yourself. Moderators are moderators because they are active on the forum, and the most active people like to engage actively in discussions. If being a moderator is incompatible with this, then I will gladly give up my status, because that would go against everything I like about the forum.

Are you expecting the moderator, who during a course of a discussion is incrementally approaching a compromised position of bias, to be able to self-report this condition accurately? Is that also not a bit contradictory? The moderator himself has to make the call. You're expecting the moderator to not abuse his powers in order to not abuse his powers.

Sure, if Leo wants to establish some guideline for moderators that says that (currently our guidelines do not have that rule), then I would gladly accept that. However, it would make moderation extremely tedious, as virtually all moderation actions would have to be discovered by 1 moderator and then extracted by a 2nd moderator (if we count all verbal engagement with the topic as a marker for bias). Sure, it would probably lead to less abuse, but would it be worth it? There is a trade-off for everything. Granting somebody power is also granting them the ability to abuse.

That defeats the purpose of a moderator, because the moderator has to be engaged in the discussion to know the context of an eventual violation of the guidelines. You're essentially proposing that we need moderators to moderate the moderators.

We're not moderating with respect to every possible utterance like a debate moderator. We're moderating with respect to the guidelines. I will never argue with someone about a moderation decision before I'm making it. The arguing will only happen afterwards when people disagree.

Lmao, do you think that would ease people's minds about accountability? User feedback is important.

One person said I give out warning points willy-nilly while I actually only gave 2 warning points out of 17 that were given by 4 other moderators. Another person said I'm a bad mod without elaborating. You said I'm ideological. That's it.

Mods are used to people regularly disagreeing with their decisions.

@CultivateLove I'm not going to keep derailing the thread with you. Sorry if I made you feel bad by attacking you.