Carl-Richard

Not sure what you mean. Of course. An exclusivist is not an inclusivist or pluralist/universalist.

This is a rule probably many Christians follow, but not all. If people call themselves Christian and they do tangible Christian stuff, that seems reasonable. It's not like the term doesn't describe anything. It describes something they do which is Christian. There are words for these different types of Christians (as well as the other models I've alluded to): exclusivists, inclusivists, pluralists/universalists. https://munsonmissions.org/2019/01/15/chapter-5-models-of-ird-part-1/

What does that mean? I call myself spiritual, I do spiritual things, you can say it's my identity, but it's not my only identity. He calls himself Christian, he goes to Church and sings songs, prays, goes on pilgrimages. It's his identity, but it's not his only identity.

Rupert Sheldrake. Here he also mentions many other examples of (sometimes leading) Christians thinkers like him ("Christian perennialists"): My bachelor advisor (and others at the faculty, particularly the guy who had us in philosophy). There is also a model (and others) that describes these types of Christian/religious people ("Second Naivete"): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02367-2 https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/287180?lang=bi It's basically another formulation of the Wilberian pre-trans distinction.

Why? Such Christians exist, just like there exists closeminded New Agers.

Well, now I told you, so now you know. I have no idea what you just said.

And let me guess, those particular people you are referring to are not very openminded, nuanced, capable of taking multiple perspectives, critiquing frames, seeing the whole picture, familiar with non-duality, all the good stuff you like, and that if you were to find a Christian who possesses these qualities, you wouldn't have much of a problem with them?

Where did I say I present it as anything more than belief?

Sober? 😆 Haha. One time when I sat in the sauna at the gym, a guy stepped in and started meditating. And my thoughts stopped. Normally I'm much more prone to mind-wandering, maybe partially because that is what most people do in the sauna. That made me much more aware of how you can pick up thoughts or lack of thoughts from others (even though I already knew "transmission" was a thing, this experience made it palpable with respect to thoughts specifically). And I believe sometimes I do pick up specific thoughts from others (in the sauna and otherwise). One time in a lecture, we were about to go overtime into the break, and I had a distinct thought form in my mind associated with "break" (I don't remember how specific it was), and immediately as that happened, the most extroverted and spontaneous person in the class asked "aren't we supposed to take a break now?". That literally felt like I picked out the thought as it was forming in his mind (or maybe the class' mind) before he vocalized it. And my mind is usually very silent and focused on the lecture, so when any seemingly unrelated thought pops up, it's very noticeable. Another slightly annoying thing is that when I'm in a class where people don't seem to grasp the subject very well, I can feel it, and my mind keeps trying to take the perspective of the person that doesn't understand. So I have to parallel process their perspective and my own 🫠 Gives new meaning to "you're as smart as the people you hang out with" 🤣

Oh ok, so contrarianism 🤣

It's partially due to crypto-materialism, partially due to postmodern individualistic spirituality (what I call "New Age"). When you're a crypto-materialist, you're very skeptical of psychic powers, miracles, etc., so Jesus becomes most likely a fraudster. When you're a postmodern individualist, you deny or de-emphasize religious stories as representing anything factual and emphasize their sociohistorical foundations, so Jesus becomes not real.

Are you are able to just sit, for 1 hour, 2 hours, maybe even 6 hours? If not, why? Is it because of your thoughts? Let go of the thoughts. Is it because of something you have to do? Let go of it. If you are unable to let go of these things, why? 1. Is your attention seemingly drifting outside your awareness, back to thoughts, back to things you have to do? Focus your attention on an object (the breath counts). 2. Does your physical body hurt when sitting for that long? Learn to sit better (fix your posture, fix your seat, fix your legs, fix your breathing). Does it still hurt? Take a break; rest is important. 3. Are your thoughts sticky and associated with unresolved emotions, problems, scenarios? Fix the source, either by solving the problem or planning how you will pursue solving the problem, or drop it, give it up. To give it up, when the thoughts arise, tell yourself that whatever happens, you will be ok. Here you go, I just derived meditation for you.

I had a dream some weeks ago that followed the same trends as some of the previous ones: of my dream mirroring some outside event, me having a nightmare and waking up, and the event being "the most significant case" of that kind of event. This time, it was the biggest bombardment of Ukraine so far in the war according to the news, and I dreamt the same day (can't remember the exact time of day) that my hometown was being bombarded by high-tech missiles and I woke up in fear. Again, I very rarely have nightmares where I wake up from them.

🤢 Leo says the forum is about chill not work 😝

👍👍👍 Now deconstruct that shit. I am obsessive but I never present belief as absolute and seldom anything as the only way.

I was going to use the word "spawn", but the overly concrete people are going to dig themselves a ditch anyway.

Probably a lot of stories were made up. But sainthood is a real possibility. And if you have a true saint, there is no reason why not some of it can resonate through history. And I just believe in psychic shit, call me New Age or whatever, call me damaged goods from being in a cult near a decade ago. But connecting to a saint from long times past does not seem like an unreasonable possibility. But of course you can go bonkers with it too, but that's on you.

Think walking meditation but with all of your bodily movements and actions (picking up things, putting them down, eating, drinking, breathing, looking at things), all the time, 24/7.

Omg. I regret using the words I did earlier when speaking about pathology.

Vinson 😂

I just want women to thank me, I'm emotional that way. Sorry, I won't troll anymore.

If I didn't do active mindfulness for a week before my first sober awakening, I wouldn't have awakened after 5 minutes of sitting meditation. But if you're not able to sit, that's indicative of something.

No 😂 I just vocalize my thoughts and then I'm done.

Loud and clear but I don't have much to add to it.

I think it's a true observation.