Carl-Richard

Then if you get too good at that, people will perceive you as a snake oil salesman, "it's too good to be true" etc. It's never enough ?

These were recorded on my phone from around last year (sorry for bad sound quality and horrible guitar tone). I probably have around 1000 of these kinds of files, so it's hard to choose just a few ? Some conventional music ideas: https://voca.ro/15o5FK9gYViy https://voca.ro/19e6Vfw9iODx https://voca.ro/1hgAdHB1RHCV Wannabe shredding solo over scuffed generic chord progression: https://voca.ro/11DYAHJLi7wM Weird atonal experimental/improvisational shit: https://voca.ro/1m53CjggJaod https://voca.ro/16g5Z70DUB4M There is one more riff that came to mind which I made when I was 17 and that I'm still proud of but that I cannot find atm (and I cba to record it at night), so I'll post it later

In front of that audience, he is right to say no.

Yeah, but imagine having no prison system at all. Be careful with what you light on fire.

The time he did talk about climate change, he mentioned some study that said people become more environmentally conscious as their country becomes richer, and that there is not much you can do other than to wait for that to happen to the third world countries. He also said "you want to get rid of oil? Hah – good luck with that!". I don't remember any other mindblowing insights from that video lol

Let's say Ted was your roommate and he figures out that the apartment will probably deterioate in a couple hundred years and that his incredible genius got him to conclude that it's incredibly unlikely that we'll ever be able to fix the house. His solution is to burn down the house (anarcho-primitivism) and kill his roommates (who disagrees with his ideas) so that he can live in a tent alone. That is how deluded this guy is. Megalomaniacal ideas and anti-social behavior is a really bad mix. If you believe you have all the answers and nobody is listening, at least don't make a plan that includes killing people. That is an obscenely narcissistic evaluation of your own mind and biases.

which is stupid and evil.

You could say that at this stage, the problem is that "the collective" is not collectivist enough, as its members are participating in and perpetuating rivalrous games. The optimistic attitude to that would be that this will change over time.

I think the overarching point is that JBP uses his ideas about personal responsibility etc. to shut down collectivism in a sort of exclusionary "this is too idealistic and not feasible in reality" kind of way. It's the cynical attitude that he uses to dismiss various forms of social constructivism while protecting his conservative underbelly.

It's not what you'll possess It's how you will express The essence of you It's not the wage you earn It's about the things you learn And the love that you feel It's not what you'll conceal It's all that you'll reveal That will make you be you The perfection of you Now the shadows are long And the cities are lost to rain And when you wake up every day To find nothing's changed But before you can speak You will learn that it's all the same And the dreams that you will have Are public domain And the country lanes are decked With the time to come It's not the years you pass It's about the moments that last Forever in you Now the shadows are long And the cities are lost to rain When you wake up every day To find nothing's changed But before you can speak You will learn that it's all the same And the dreams that you will have Are public domain Now the time that is gone Doesn't matter to anyone When the country lanes are decked With the time yet to come Well the world is exhausted And the wreckage is all around But the arc of your life Could still be profound Don't be afraid to die Don't be afraid to be alive Don't be afraid to die Don't be afraid to be alive Don't be afraid

The meta understanding to that is that artificial man-made technology is also perfect as it is.

Well, if I could write a letter to Ted, it would say this: you can't feasibly revert society back to a pre-technological/pre-agricultural state, so why the bombs, Ted?

Yes, there can be a kind of naive optimism to seeing the world through this type of teleological lens of "everything is progress", but there is nothing that tells us whether we will get to Tier 2 before it's too late or whether Tier 2 will be successful at all in the long run. But the idea that these ideas cannot manifest themselves in society is a bit too pessimistic in my view. This idea that Tier 2 requires expert knowledge and genius level cognition to arrive at is only true if we're talking about those who pioneered and discovered these new altitudes. Once they're fleshed out, packaged and distributed through the collective consciousness, that isn't necessarily the case. I mean just look at how fast all these young people on a forum they discovered a couple of years ago can become so welcoming of such ideas (meanwhile they might not embody it fully yet). Imagine if not just their local internet community was pro Tier 2 but that their school teachers, healthcare workers and politicians were pointing to these values. It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't embody Tier 2 to some extent.

The genius of Ken Wilber's integrative approach is unmatched, because he isn't just dealing with one model. He (while being inspired by Robert Kegan) recognized the shared similarities of the so-called "altitudes of development" across a dozen different models: Piaget – cognitive domain, Cook-Greuter – ego domain, Kohlberg - moral domain, Beck/Cohen - vMEME domain, Kegan, Loevinger, Maslow, Erikson, McElland/Murray etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self Heck, recently I even found a state model in a systems psychology lecture at my university that lines up with the altitudes:

If we grant this assumption of menial labour as a cap on development, generalized AI fixes that problem. I think it's a weak assumption though, because it doesn't take future society into account (also Chris Langan is cognitively Tier 2 and worked menial jobs all his life, though of course he doesn't represent the rest of the population). I think you're underestimating the effect that society has on shaping the individual. Once society becomes peak Green and moves into Tier 2, you'll see a wide distribution of those values in the population across social classes. It's true that Tier 2 is only present in the minds of hyper-intuitive intellectuals of today, but remember that there is a societal component that always catches up and dictates the values of common man. Plato and Aristotle were unmatched in their time but is now being taught in today's children's classrooms. Likewise, it's true that only the cutting edge of intellectuals could grapple with the fundamentals of Green 100 years ago, but there is nothing stopping a Norwegian farmer from enjoying the fruits of that today, and it's the same with Tier 2 in the future.

There is no one that knows hehe ?

No society has ever been close to Green before the 20th century, and this is the historical context that mr. 1377 is lacking. He is not talking about Green. If anything, he is talking about the regression from Blue down to Red. The medieval period was a long tug of war between Blue and Red, and its synthesis was Orange. When did Green suddenly equal "thinkers"? If anything, Green is the first stage that really cares about the worker class. It's not that a model being old necessarily makes it wrong. It's just that when it comes to societal system theories, and especially those that are based on the observation of history, of course the older theories are severely inferior, because of a glaring, macroscopic hole in their data set. Heck, professors tend to feel uneasy just when they're citing decade year old studies.

Lol no get out. Women were covered up to keep male impulsivity in check (which is a classic band-aid solution that doesn't address the root issue). Islam just took it to its logical conclusion. The Abrahamic religions served as a hasty reaction (rather than a thoughtful response) to the excesses of Red. Purple has no problems with naked ladies.

I feel immediately when I speak the truth, drunk or not. It makes everything flow.

You could say it breaks barriers in a destructive fashion

Yeah, why don't people just kill themselves? Sincerely, what the fuck?

LMAO why are you still citing this medieval dude from 1377?

This is why Green is not Tier 2, because it engages in survival guilt-tripping and gatekeeping. "Your survival conditions are too light and disqualifies you from making statements about harder conditions". This is a mistake. It forgets that it's exactly those lighter conditions that makes it possible to come to such conclusions in the first place. That is a feature not a bug. This also doesn't negate or understate the horror that is Taliban, but rather the implication is that it's only the fact that the Taliban is so horrible that keeps you from seeing the larger picture. Keeping it from a distance makes you see it more clearly, because survival corrupts your mind.

When I say "fill up the hospitals", I mean it's literally full. Also, you should expect more vaccinated people to be hospitalized as more people get vaccinated. That is just how statistics work. Nobody is saying that. They get less sick both in frequency and in severity than non-vaccinated by a factor of 10. That is incredible effectiveness and important to keep in mind if you want a functional health care system.

I think the term you're looking for is monopoly of force.