Carl-Richard

Yes, I understand that the first part of your statement in the title (that you also repeated once in your post) had apparently nothing to do with your question 😂 But I did actually answer your question in the second paragraph.

14 activities is still limited, isn't it? As long as you are in human form, or really just in form in general, you will have limitations, so the points still apply. But we don't have to go into deep metaphysical speculation to acknowledge that there are definitely limitations to taking a questionnaire, and that a machine will be better able to handle a larger quantity of data, and more reliably. Maybe you can have a certain kind of deeper qualitative knowledge of yourself in some ways that the machine cannot, but I will argue that this will not be captured by a single sentence on a questionnaire either.

@mmKay I have no idea what I just watched 😂

Is that a male lion in the kitchen I'm seeing? 🧐

An observation about yourself (your behavior, your actions, your values) can be somewhat "ego aware", but not "ego independent". Despite how spiritually awake you are, you are still dealing with limited information and perceptual constraints that we attribute to the ego: You can only hold 7 ± 2 things in your head at once You do tend to focus on what sustains you and nurtures you rather than what diminishes or destructs you You have beliefs, notions and constructs that uphold your perception of the world and blinds you to some things and focuses you on some things over others etc. Survival in human form is a game of priority and limited resources. If your data collection only relies on structures that run directly on these constraints, that will be reflected in your data. A stage Red teenager can have the intention and desire to be a Stage Yellow philosopher, but there is of course some potential conflict there. Would it not be interesting to see how the teenager reacts in situations and challenges in everyday life and see if their self-proclaimed intentions and desires are actually aligned with their behavior? Besides, if your self-proclaimed desires say one thing but your behavior says another, what do you really desire? You can do that, but yet you only have 7 ± 2 things in your mind at any moment, you only have two eyes, two ears, ten fingers, etc.

The AI takes say a forum post or a conversation you had with your wife, then it's essentially prompted with something like "which Spiral Dynamics stages were represented in this interaction?" (but probably much more systematic and detailed, maybe multiple steps). The AI can be biased in some ways, yes, but it's a third person, like a scientist, which removes the self-inflationary ego problem. Because we cannot handle much data ourselves. We have horrible bandwidth and lost of data errors. When you're answering a general question about yourself, you're working with an availability heuristic, which is just a few memories tossed up and a feeling. It's quite lousy data in itself, even self-inflation put aside. Machines can track all your utterances and give strong statistical models. Because you delude yourself about what you can do. You ignore what is convenient to ignore. You focus on what is convenient to focus on. You focus on what you like and suppress what you don't like.

That's still what the ego thinks about itself. The ego likes to idealize and inflate itself, it has selective attention and memory, etc., so you will get skewed answers, especially when the answers that are given are extremely simple. And I don't believe such simple answers in themselves give justice to what is proportedly being measured. No, you just need an app on your phone, a smartwatch and maybe an eye tracker that you wear or is installed on your computer. Then the app and the AI does the rest. It's true you would need somebody with some scientific knowledge to create the app and the AI, but once it's in place, it should be very simple. Wisdom is being aware of what you're possibly not aware of at any given time.

A better way to make this test would be to have AI survey your last forum posts or have it record your voice in daily interractions for maybe a month, as well as record physiological reactions to other people's posts/voice (which could be done through a smartwatch and possibly an eye tracker). Asking what the ego thinks about itself in general is different from recording how the ego acts and reacts in everyday real situations. Besides, if a stage like e.g. Green is a lot about being aware of subtleties of context, then your measurement of that stage would benefit from reflecting that, in context, not just in the form of a click-option answer to a single sentence. Here we're essentially trying to measure stages higher than Orange with Orange methods. Also, the type of data and richness of details you get would be very useful (e.g. measurements could be coded into categories based on context, e.g. "while speaking about x topic", or "while walking down the street", or "while reading Twitter").

Jan Esmann was not a Hindu but met Krishna as a blue being. Just a funny story.

I learned a lot of systems thinking, general philosophy, context & construct awareness and holistic thinking from my degrees in psychology (and more specifically how emotions work, a lot about how the mind works, how health works, how the physical relates to the mental, etc.). It confirmed a lot of what Leo teaches. And it's not like I only learned these things indirectly through some second-order interpretation (although that also happened); these terms I mentioned are either literally used or clearly inferred. It's not like Leo invented these things or that it's something you have to learn all on your own (although that is often true). People have thought out these things before you, and the higher up you go in academia, the higher you climb in the education system, the more advanced the thinkers become, and you might run into something really profound.

You guys overestimate what a Joe Rogan appearance really does. It does not make you insta super famous, rarely. It does not instantly convert a huge swathe of people into a distorted copy of your worldview, not any more than what you see on this forum. Joe Rogan's audience is arguably as a whole not more biased or corrupt than the rest of the world. The world is corrupt, and in fact, his audience is the world (he is the world's largest podcast, with guest from all walks of life and parts the world). Posting videos on YouTube as a whole or posting videos on Joe Rogan's channel is virtually the same thing. So if you want to stop your ideas from coming into the wrong hands: stop posting on YouTube, stop posting on your blog, close your forum, or just stop talking about those things you don't want to fall into the wrong hands (which you can do on the podcast as well). People who become curious and dig deeper will be exposed to your worldview in its fullest, but these are certainly not different from the people in your core audience. Becoming a true believer requires it to resonate on a deep level. If you see corrupt people in your audience or on your forum, unless you see a huge increase after Rogan, maybe it's your ideas that are corrupt, or maybe again, it's just the world that is corrupt.

If you're posting videos to YouTube, you're posting content to not super enlightened people.

What kind of work is this?

We live in "the same world" because we can do things like play football with each other, build houses that don't fall down (unless the government is incompetent or corrupt), fly airplanes around the world, give each other high fives, complain about electricity or food prices, eat food from different parts of the world. We live in "different worlds" because we have different upbringing, different environment, different genes, different habits, different housing, different food, different lifestyle, different thinking. Now, if you ask almost anyone about what these things are (e.g. food or a house), they will tell you only with minor disagreements, and most probably say it exists in a world we all live in 😉

I want to live in a world where you can go to your standard psychologist and say "I'm so successful and accomplished in life, but yet I feel so empty inside and I'm longing for something more but I don't know what it is, and I'm an open person who takes in new ideas and sensitive to subtler aspects of life", and the psychologist answers "have you tried enlightenment?"

I must have been 4-5 years old and I vividly remember one time looking up at the night sky and feeling like I was becoming one with the sky, and I have related memories of floating upwards and travelling through space (which could have been imagination, but extremely vivid and "vast"). I got the sense that the universe is much larger than the planet I was standing on. And this had to be before I was familiar with the concept of "space". I think the first documentary I watched about space was when I was 5-7 years old, about Voyager and Cassini–Huygens travelling to or past Saturn and Jupiter. I also have some memories of proper "non-duality", or of emerging out of it, of going from a state of being completely lost in rapture and eternity, of no sense of time and a very jumbled sense of space or awareness of thing really happening, like being really lost in the sauce. I have no idea how old I must have been then, but I think I was very young, maybe able to walk, and it must have happened in our family cabin. I believe I have other memories of it from other times but I can't really pinpoint where I was. Generally, when I think back to early childhood, I get many pictures in my head that are very out of the ordinary and somehow "expanded", but I think that's really common the longer back you go.

Salman Rushdie had a premonition in a dream the night before he was attacked:

(For those unfamiliar with GeoGuessr, he gets a photograph and is supposed to guess where in the world the photograph was taken): Look at the people in the comment section twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to explain this within the materialist paradigm. If you just accept that psychic phenomena exist, the explanation becomes so incredibly simple.

Seems like the blue triangle logo is a surprisingly effective way of weeding out conspiratorial crazies from ever joining the forum.

Music never stopped me from pursuing enlightenment 😆

The "lodged" concept seems to be not so straightforward related to binding affinity. It seems like binding affinity measured as Ki (the one you were reading off the wiki page) is more about attraction to the receptor (measured by competition binding), while the lodging phenomena seems to be more geometric, which would be measured by other metrics like Kd which measures dissociation (how easily it lets go of the receptor): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligand_(biochemistry)#binding_affinity Here are two articles mentioning the lodging phenomena: https://www.popsci.com/lsd-gets-stuck-in-brains-receptors-serotonin/ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170126132541.htm And here is a quote from the study they're referencing: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(16)31749-4?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867416317494%3Fshowall%3Dtrue They're mentioning slow dissociation, so high Kd, and specifically from 5HT2a/2b, not 1a. So it seems like I'm right: after the trip, 5HT2a activity continues while other serotonin and dopamine systems are downregulated, causing a combo of elevated cortisol and otherwise lowered serotonin and dopamine activity.

I want to live in a world where you can go to your standard psychologist and say "I'm so successful and accomplished in life, but yet I feel so empty inside and I'm longing for something more but I don't know what it is, and I'm an open person who takes in new ideas and sensitive to subtler aspects of life", and the psychologist answers "have you tried enlightenment?"

When I do think about it, I've heard that LSD's special long duration is due to it getting lodged in the 5HT2a receptor, which is a receptor that is associated with increased cortisol. Now, if it's only the 5HT2a receptor it gets lodged in, then you will get a cortisol-filled after-high combined with downregulation of dopamine receptors and probaby also the more calm-inducing 5HT1a receptors. I agree with the "dry" feeling. One time after LSD, I said to my friends while inhaling some weed "I just feel... mentally corrupt" *stares tiredly up at a leafless early spring tree top and exhales*.