Carl-Richard

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Please don't post several threads about the same topic. This also belongs in the Spirituality section. You can move your posts to this thread:

Please don't post several threads about the same topic. This also belongs in the Spirituality section. You can move your posts to this thread:

Please don't post several threads about the same topic. This also belongs in the Spirituality section. You can move your posts to this thread:

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What you experienced and called love prior to awakening, that is what is multiplied to infinity during awakening. If awakening was like licking an ice cream, then you would call it Absolute Ice Cream.

It was a clumsy way of saying that we got stuck on semantics and that we already agree. It was a win-win

Systematic is related to schematic, and it often refers to a process. Systemic more often refers to a structure. Anyways, the point is just that there is a difference between looking at something analytically vs. holistically.

"Systemic" just means "related to systems", meanwhile systems thinking is relational/holistic thinking (thinking about systems, what they are and how they interrelate etc.). The way I understand "systematic" is it's like following a script or a system of operations, which is what the Cartesian method is. You can think of Systems thinking like a trademark of Fritjof Capra ("the Capran method") the way that the Cartesian method or analytical thinking is a trademark of René Descartes Haha shamelessly! It's really just me rediscovering Leo's content from their original source

Because the environments and lifestyles created by the post-industrial age are far removed from our phylogenetic roots. Modern people have about 60 000 thoughts per day, meanwhile pre-modern tribal people have about 1 000 - 10 000 thoughts a day.

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Hehe np!

Systematic =/= systemic Leo seems to like this one : There I make the distinction between analytical and systems thinking. Systematic thinking is more analogous to analytical thinking (and its Cartesian roots).

So I just came back from a vacation with my mom and my little brother skiing in the mountains (like Norwegians do ). The first few days, my brother had to work, and me and my mom stayed at our cabin with our grandmother and her partner. Over the years, my grandmother has gotten slightly less pleasant to be around at times (she has a rather demanding personality), and my mom has started to think about how it's threatening her relationship with her partner (who is now showing signs of dementia), among other things. My grandmother has bad legs, so she can't join the daily skiing trips with me and my mom. My mom has always found deep peace in nature, and over the course of the last few years, I've come to be in the same boat. I felt that the contrast between the moments we spent in the mountains together just me and her, and the moments we spent in the cabin with my grandmother, made her start to really think about what caused my spiritual development (because that was also a strong contrast to my prior self), and how that is in fact what my grandmother is lacking. At least that is what I've come to realize after she asked me about it and we had a long conversation in the car ride home. I've always held back talking about these matters to her, but for the first time, I was given the opportunity to share my deepest self with her (though in an introductory fashion). Another thing that I think sparked this conversation was that she has been aware of meditation for quite a while (and practicing somewhat infrequently), and that not too long ago, when she asked whether I know someone at school who also meditates (while talking about a paper I was writing on the mystical experience), I mentioned in passing and a bit jokingly that I know about a few people, but that they're treating it as a "symptomatic treatment" and not as a "way to find God". I think it made her think about her own approach to meditation and how it differed from mine, and how the two produced drastically different results. The way our conversation went made me think that she has, if not a genuine desire, at least a curiosity towards the spiritual path, and that in the future, when she finally gets tired of her job, of finding a new husband, of upholding whatever social or financial status that doesn't fulfill her, then maybe she will start asking more questions. So if it happens, I think it'll be at least a couple of years into the future. I'll most likely rewrite this tomorrow when I'm not half-asleep, but I felt like sharing this now so that when I wake up tomorrow, I can maybe hear if any of you have some similar stories

There is no rush. You were just born

BAHAHAHA consciousness scares me

That's his thing: taking small amounts of data and drawing huge conclusions (inside joke) @thisintegrated Just kidding bro ?

That is my intuition as well, but I also think that we can't know for sure how deep it goes (until we get to hear from say a trans or ex-trans spiritual teacher).

He is talking about spiritual development.

He heard you talking about biology, so he assumed that you meant that consciousness is caused by biology.

The conventional solipsist believes in separation. That is what he is saying.

100-200 years ago, Green only existed at the cutting edge of academia. You have to wait for the developmental Overton window to shift before it manifests in the general population.

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Yes. One of my formative awakenings happened while I was listening to Martin Ball's "The Fractal of Being" while sitting on an airplane ?